Living in the fraternity house was quieter than living in the freshman dorm. Yah, fraternity houses can get crowded on weekends sometimes -- but normally, people in the house go out to bars or have rented-out parties with another fraternity or sorority someplace in Dallas. Unless it is cleared through the school for an official event, rarely do chapters have 100's of people over to their house. Now living in the dorms on the other hand (excuse me, Residence Halls in SMU's case), it was worse... stuff happened every night of the week. Now I had a blast in both places, but several of the kids that created most of the problems in the dorms weren't in Greek houses at SMU (shocking, I know) -- in fact, they left after a semester or year. To even be eligible to go through rush, you have to have a 2.25 GPA and no judicial violations. Also, the average male GPA at SMU was around a 2.8 ... while the all-frat average was like a 3.1 or so. And the whole "hooking up" thing, who doesn't hook up in college ... I would think non-sorority girls (they don't exist in the attractive form at SMU) would be easier to hook up with b/c they don't have all the rules, judicial standards, etc. that their organization is holding them to. I don't know, maybe it's different at UNT (but many of the posters here cause me not to think so) but usually Greeks are the ones that are student body presidents, on student senate, involved in all of the orientation processes/welcome committees, homecoming, athletic events, etc. And the faces of the student body for university. But I might be naive coming from an Ole Miss family, and having gone to SMU.