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Tell you what -- we'll promise not to bother ourselves with what goes on in District 7-5A from here on out if you return the favor.
Lighten up Francis!
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Defense went back to the Ron Mendoza system that didn't work 4 years ago because it was too advanced for the players at the time.
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Is this game televised locally in the DFW Metroplex?
It won't be live on TV, but the game will be on TXA-21 at 3PM.
The live radio broadcast is on 1630 KKGM, online at http://www.kkgmam.com/
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All tickets at the gate are $10. The cost to park at Texas Stadium is $10. Parking lots open at 11 a.m. and gates open at 11:30 a.m. Dragon fans should enter near gate 3.
Last week, parking was only $5. This should be a great game. The last time these teams met was in the 2005 regional semi-finals. Both teams had perfect records. Abiliene had a hot offense with Taylor Potts at QB and it was supposed to be their year to go all the way. But SLC walked away with a 52-0 shutout. As I recall, Mendoza started both Russo and Padron in that game.
Abilene will be looking for revenge and they are supposed to be really good this year.
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Written by an amateur blogger that has nothing to do with SportingNews other than having a free membership on the website. He's got a total of three blog entries, all written today. Somehow the "Just saw this on sporting news" note from the TXFOOSBALL guy is supposed to make it more credible?
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YYZ28, my post was harsh and shouldn't have been directed at you. You're right about the website. I shouldn't have brought that up since it had already been taken down. Anyway, I've removed my post and the reference to the website.
Nobody else really sticks up for Mendoza around here so sometimes I feel obligated to present the other perspective. I don't know the guy, but I really feel sorry for him. I think this season has been more about bad luck for him rather than being in over his head. I've met some SLC players that he coached and you would think that he's Vince Lombardi the way they talk. They absolutely loved playing for this guy and had total confidence in him. UNT has landed the top defensive players from Carroll's '07 and '08 classes (Padron, Russo, and Tomlin) in large part because they want to play for Mendoza. These kids were recruited by the likes of Standford, Vanderbuilt, Rice, SMU, A&M, Iowa State, Baylor, West Point, Annapolis, etc... yet they signed with UNT to play for Mendoza. Say all you want about the quality of those football programs, but for a kid who will likely end his football career after graduation, turning down a full ride at those schools is a big deal.
I'm not saying that Mendoza deserves special treatment because of his past success and rapport with players, but you've got to take it into consideration when trying to make sense of this season's meltdown. Was he in over his head? Did he try to implement new schemes too quickly? Did he overestimate the ability of some players, putting them into positions to fail? Were there unpublicized attitude/discipline problems that forced him to change lineups? Was he trying to keep the defensive schemes simple for a good reason? There's a bunch of possible factors that the statistics don't capture.
As for the incident, I've never called anyone a liar or expressed doubt that something happened. The problem is that nobody really knows exactly what happened or how bad it was. Obviously it was enough to insult somebody that is a good friend to many on this board. But that person seems content to forget about it, at least in this public forum. My problem is with folks that weren't there (and no, 50+ yards away in the stands doesn't count) yet they still bring it up as a reason to vilify the guy.
This whole thing is probably getting old for most folks around here. I apologize and I'll try to lay off on jumping to Mendoza's rescue all the time. I think in another life I was a defense attorney representing rapist and serial killers because they had nobody else to speak out for them.
And, not to further hijack this thread, but I'd like to clarify something about myself. I'm not from Southlake and didn't go to school there. SLCoutsider is a name I chose on the Texas 5A Football forums because, I consider myself a Southlake outsider who follows their program. Now, I'm just as much a UNT fan. I've attended more UNT games this year than Southlake games. I probably should have picked a better name when registering on GMG. Maybe UNToutsider.
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I thought the defense played very well against WKU. Let's hope they continue and end the season on a good note!
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Dude... people SAW it happen. Are you really that blinded by this guy? You're his wife or kid or something?
Mendoza did EXACTLY what FFR said he did. FFR is not a liar. Neither are the few who saw it happen. You're a troll. Nothing more. You attack respected members of this community, yet have been around here since **GASP** THIS YEAR! ...that certainly makes you an expert on all things North Texas.
Now we have eye witnesses other than the parties directly involved? Why didn't these eye witnesses speak up in the original thread? In case anyone needs a review, here is the original thread...
http://www.gomeangreen.com/forums/index.ph...hl=price+I+paid
So what EXACTLY did Mendoza do? The description was rather vague. It sounded like he basically gave someone a dirty look and chose not to shake their hand. If that's the case, then I agree it was poor form and he should be more gracious. But everyone has bad moments here and there. Let's give him a break on this one and hold off judgement until it happens again.
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Like I said, no one should be naive enough to think they are exempt from kids acting like kids. It was just an unfortunate game where emotions ran wild on both sides.
There you go trying to be the level-headed voice of reason again. Don't you see that we need villains like you to make our own existence better? We need somebody to hate. We've already got Mendoza and Mandy, but that's not enough. We need an entire team, coaching staff, mascott, and fan-base to hate. Better yet, we need to hate your entire state. Even though our coach seems content to let it go and attributed the incident to high emotions, chest thumping, and "bowing up" on both sides, we still need you to be the bad guys because we have so much hate to go around. Please keep posting so that we can continue to hate on you. It makes us feel so much better.
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Well, if I have 120 accountants in my accounting firm, do you think that I should retain the 120th ranked accountant after his first year since his ranking would be a pretty clear indicator that he is not doing his job? It's a no brainer to me, and I don't see why football coaches should be treated any differently. The only difference is that Mendoza probably makes more money.
The problem with analogies is thay they can be crafted to back up any argument. They are like statistics and numerology in that regard.
For example, let's do the accounting firm analogy a different way that supports my perspective. Your firm is already in the bottom 10 percentile among accounting firms and next year's forecast looks even more bleak. You clean house and hire 3 new accountants. One of them has a bad year, worse than expected. Do you fire him? Or do you give him a chance because maybe you knew the accounts he was assigned to weren't going to do much business with your firm anyway. Maybe you knew that he wasn't going to get much help from a disgruntled staff that had been hired by the previous guy. Maybe you give him a chance to bring in some new business since he has good relationships with potential clients and a proven track record at his previous firm. Maybe you don't want your firm to develop a bad reputation among accounting professionals by firing him before he had a chance to build his organization. Seems like a no brainer to me. But it does require a level-head which some around here seem to lack. Also, for some folks, it's just not as fun or satisfying as joining in the fray and calling for his head.
I see two related and sad attitudes at play around here. 1) The mob mentality that enjoys joining in with others for the sake of kicking people who are down, especially when they are perceived to "make more money". 2) The witch hunt mentality that needs to blame all problems, no matter how interwoven and complex, on a single bad guy.
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You go get em SLCoutsider. Don't let these guys tear up Mendoza. Most of these guys believe Mendoza was going to kick a fan's ass on the field. You know him personally, does that sound reasonable?
I don't know any of the coaching staff personally. I just don't understand wanting to fire a guy after his first season. As for the ass kicking, there are a few people here that deserve it but I doubt that Mendoza would do it on the field.
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Jesus, it's like a freaking witch hunt around here. Some folks just aren't happy unless they have someone to burn at the stake. All the defensive meltdowns this season are Mendoza's fault. He just can't coach at this level, can't make adjustments, can't motivate the D1 athelete. Everything was his freaking fault. And now that the defense finally had a decent game, Mendoza had nothing to do with it. Too bad we can't also blame him for the problems in Blue parking.
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I thought Richt went insane when the players started acting like idiots and was pulling them off the field.
Check out the videos on YouTube. He even said that he told the team he would be disappointed if they didn't get an excessive celebration penalty after the first touchdown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7X8aoBaqDQ
I'm not saying it's right, but I can understand.
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Isn't the grenade celebration similar to what Georgia did against Florida this year? Lots of folks, including media analysts, were praising Georgia head coach Mark Richt for orchestrating the excessive celebration. It was credited for infusing the team with passion that they were lacking in previous games. Folks might be saying the same thing about WKU if they had won. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I just don't think it was a big deal and certainly not a "dis" worth getting into a brawl over. The weather was miserable, they were a long way from home, no band, no chearleaders, and only about 20 fans in the stands. I can understand them wanting to create some spark. Heck, it even perked me up a little bit.
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The Outsider was there for all 4 qtrs. But who can blame anyone for staying home? The new stadium needs to be a dome.
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From the way I heard it, from someone who was down there, the exchange went like this...
WKU Coach: Get your players off the field!
Dodge: They're waiting for our school song.
WKU Coach: I don't care about your f^%$ing school song. Get your players off the field.
In all fairness, and I'm not trying to defend anyone's actions here, perhaps the WKU coach said this after the initial altercation and he just wanted both teams to get off the field to avoid further escalation. I heard one of the WKU coaches screaming at his players to "get back to the f**king locker room". He seemed to be trying to do the right thing under the circumstances.
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Sam Houston just did the same thing to TxSt with 13 seconds left.
Rick
I'd feel a little better if it was Bomar who scored the final touchdown against our D.
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I spoke with Varsity late yesturday and they confirm that today's game is in fact, a PPV event and that it will NOT be shown on the normal ESPN Gameplan package. The only way you can watch it through ESPN is to buy the package, and then purchase the game for additional money on top of the price of Gameplan. Needless to say, they will not have the game on.
I think the person you spoke with doesn't really know how it works and probably didn't want to make any guarantees about having the game. I confirmed the following while ordering a one week subscription to GamePlan through my cable TV provider.
GamePlan is a multi-channel PPV package that you buy on a season, half-season, or per-week basis. There is no concept of paying for a single game. Once you subscribe to the package, you get access to all 6 GamePlan channels until your subscription runs out. Tonight, there is only 1 game on Gameplan, so only one of the channels will have programming. On weekends, multiple channels (up to 6) will have programming depending on the game schedules as listed at http://proxy.espn.go.com/ncf/gameplan/index.
I asked if there were ever cases where there was a per-game PPV charge on top of the Gameplan subscription, and the rep said no. Once you buy the subscription, you get all the games.
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For those of you interested in going to Varsity Club tomorrow night, they are going to contact their provider and see if it actually on GamePlan as it says it is on ESPN.com, or if you have to buy it. I should know something by late this evening.
According to this...
http://proxy.espn.go.com/ncf/gameplan/index
ESPN Gameplan is purchased on a season or per-week basis. In other words, you don't pay for individual games. So if Varsity Club already has a season pass for ESPN Gameplan, then they should have the game. I'm seriously considering buying a 1 week subscription for $21.95 so I can watch the game tonight. Either that or head over to the Varsity Club.
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UNTLifer, you're one of my favorite people on this board. I've had a long day and that was just what the doctor ordered!
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And the point I made is absurd, how? What's so hard to understand about how the NCAA statistically records rushing attempts? I just merely pointed out the truth to the run/pass ratio & then become labeled a troll??? This from the guy who clams we will raise a statue of Mendoza in front of our athletic center??
I shouldn't have quoted your post in my reply. I was just speaking out against the whole notion that statistical analysis is a waste of time.
Regarding the bronze statue, the question isn't IF it's going to happen, but will it be a life-size figure or a bust. I think it's got to be a bust because you'll need room under the statue to list all his defensive coordinator of the year and hall of fame accolades.
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Well, how does one deal with misleading stats? For example, the run/pass balance. The real reason why running plays are near the 40% range is because the NCAA counts sacks as rushing attempts. It has nothing to do with actual run plays called by Dodge per game.
Stats are misleading and can be skewed in many ways for one's benefit (or reporting in this case).
It still amazes me how some folks are totally reluctant to give coach any benefit of a doubt. Some of the posts in this thread are so ridiculous that they must be trolls. The argument boils down to "the coaching staff is overanalyzing the stats, which are misleading in the first place, so they should just find a way to win".
The following phrases can be substituted for "find a way to win"....
"Get 'er done"
"Move the chains"
"Make the plays"
"Convert"
"Wrap 'em up"
"Bow up"
"Take it to 'em"
"Bring it"
It's so absurd to believe that anyone would really prefer this type of baloney that I feel foolish for taking any of this seriously.
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Warren Buffet buys businesses, but he never goes to see them. He doesn't dictate to them what to do. His pattern is this - he and his team find a business they think is a leader in their market, they buy it, they let the same guys continue to manage it. All Buffett asks is for an end of the year report. Guess what? It works for him. The man sits there in Omaha, buying businesses he'll never darken the doorway of, and he makes billions. Not millions, billions.
Not sure what point is being made here. It's all about one's role in the project. The management teams of the companies he buys certainly employ the practice of breaking things down into smaller sub-goals as you move down the employee hierarchy. It's a basic practice of any company with more than 5 employees. Same concept works in military, sports, engineering, or any other group effort.
Of course not. By the time they were winning Super Bowls, those problems were already fixed. They were at a different stage of the journey. I bet they were examing those small details during that first season.If we have a "bend, but don't break" defense like the Dallas Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson, who cares? They won. You think Jimmy and Dave Wannstadt were taking time out of their Super Bowl celebrations to count up three-and-outs? I doubt it. They just wanted guy to make plays. If it happened at one end of the field or the other, it didn't matter. As long as they kept their opponent out of the end zone and off the scoreboard enough.
Everyone knows you can have individual goals. But, you can also get overly focused on them. I don't know if Dodge is doing that. I just know that I don't hear Notre Dame's coach or any other struggling coach saying, "we need this many yard here and there." What I hear them saying is, "We've got to find a way to win." Their focus appears to be on getting back on the winning track, not bogging down in the numbers game with their players.
So what? Would it really make you feel better if Dodge fell back on the meaningless, nebulous "we gotta find a way to win" instead of pointing out tangible, measureable areas for improvement? I like a coach that shares his analytic breakdown of a performance rather than some meaningless answer that just allows him to move on to the next question.
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You know what it sounds like from Dodge's interviews? It sounds like he's too obsessed with numbers. You know, we want this many three-and-outs on defense, we want this many rushing yards out of these guys, that many out of those guys, such and such a number passing, etc.
Look, the guy's got a good head for offense. But, maybe he just needs to forget about the numbers and coach. Throw out all of the charts and tell the guys to just go out, win their individual assignments, and win each play.
I mean, seriously. Would it make any difference if a team punted to us after five or six plays instead of three? Who cares? Our one win this year shows what can happen if the defense steps up, even if the "passing game" numbers goal isn't met.
Am I crazy here? I don't recall hearing any other coach mention numbers goals so often in interviews. In my twisted mind, the only number that counts should be the score. If we've got more on the scoreboard than them when the scoreboard reads 00:00, I could care less what the numbers are in three-and-outs, QB run yards vs. RB run yards, passing yards...just, please.
Maybe Dodge is collaring himself with this stuff. The game isn't played on paper. The game plan may be on paper, but you've got to be able to change and adapt with the flow of a particular game. Statistics be damned.
The ultimate goal, and the only goal that matters in the end, is to win the game. But you have to break it down into smaller, tangible goals that individual players, units, and staff can focus on, be measured against, and be held accountable for. The measurement and accountability is really important. There's a saying in management that "what gets measured gets done". Sure, wins and losses can be measured, but if you don't break the big goal down into smaller goals, then nobody is truly accountable for their piece of the overall success or failure.
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