New Map for College Football could include Everybody

[Harry]

Imagine the 64 teams across the country playing for the big jackpot, but around them are all the others, the Middle Tennessees, the New Mexico States and Idahos, not to mention schools like Old Dominion, Charlotte, Georgia State and others that have been encouraged to start up programs headed for the big time.

If the other 60 teams – there will be 124 recognized as major college programs this fall – played seasons knowing that four champions from that group would be elevated to the Super 64, the existing bowls could be the locations for those events. That means the four bottom teams each season would fall out of the Super 64, which makes the cliché about every game counting actually mean something.

Read more: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/BS/20120522/SPORTS/305220061/New-map-college-football-might-room-everyone?odyssey=nav%7Chead

[MeanGreenDan]

Imagine the 64 teams across the country playing for the big jackpot, but around them are all the others, the Middle Tennessees, the New Mexico States and Idahos, not to mention schools like Old Dominion, Charlotte, Georgia State and others that have been encouraged to start up programs headed for the big time.

If the other 60 teams – there will be 124 recognized as major college programs this fall – played seasons knowing that four champions from that group would be elevated to the Super 64, the existing bowls could be the locations for those events. That means the four bottom teams each season would fall out of the Super 64, which makes the cliché about every game counting actually mean something.

Read more: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/BS/20120522/SPORTS/305220061/New-map-college-football-might-room-everyone?odyssey=nav%7Chead

It's like the soccer league in England. I totally dig that format, but it wil never happen.

[Zeke]

I thought before that the soccer format sounds best for making the system fair. But we all know that fair is not what the schools are shooting for.

[Bottomgreen]

I would fully support this idea. I actually been reading about this idea for several years. Promotion and relegation should occur on a 4 year basis. This allow teams time to transition.

Of course this will never happen bc of money/tv deals.

Its an awesome idea though - Regional interest, fight every game, better travel for student athletes, opportunity to move up and play for a national championship. We can always dream.

[UNTflyer]

It's a terrible idea. Look at Engish Premier, it's always the same teams in the top 5, and the bottom is just a churn of relegation and promotion. It benefits only the elite.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

Imagine the 64 teams across the country playing for the big jackpot, but around them are all the others, the Middle Tennessees, the New Mexico States and Idahos, not to mention schools like Old Dominion, Charlotte, Georgia State and others that have been encouraged to start up programs headed for the big time.

If the other 60 teams there will be 124 recognized as major college programs this fall played seasons knowing that four champions from that group would be elevated to the Super 64, the existing bowls could be the locations for those events. That means the four bottom teams each season would fall out of the Super 64, which makes the cliché about every game counting actually mean something.

Read more: http://www.greenvill...dyssey=nav|head

It would require 6 more weeks of college football ... will never happen...[ 18 weeks total ..longer than the NFL ] 16 or 8 would be 4 or 3 weeks with only four (or two) teams playing the final two... that might happen. Now a few play 14 ( if they have a conference playoff and a bowl game) and that is a lot to ask of students who get zero pay [ well most places ]..

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[GrayEagle]

It might work with a few teams but I don't see that as practical with 126.

[shaft]

As much fun as a triple-octa final 64 team, 6 round playoff would be, it will never happen.

[DallasGreen]

It would require 6 more weeks of college football ... will never happen...[ 18 weeks total ..longer than the NFL ] 16 or 8 would be 4 or 3 weeks with only four (or two) teams playing the final two... that might happen. Now a few play 14 ( if they have a conference playoff and a bowl game) and that is a lot to ask of students who get zero pay [ well most places ]..

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Why not if high school teams play that many games to get to the state championship? Why would colleges be any different. Your pay for play reference has no relevance to this topic. I am sick of the media blitz in the DFW market for the pro teams, when all any of them care about is the $$$$$ and corrupt the minds of college athletes into thinking they should point all their eforts toward going pro rather than taking advantage of what a college education offers them. Think of Vince Young staying for his final season at UT vs. his failure by going pro early. Think if Colt McCoy would have gutted it up in the National Championship againsr AL instead of taking a dive to preserve his pro hopes where he has failed miserably.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

Why not if high school teams play that many games to get to the state championship? Why would colleges be any different. Your pay for play reference has no relevance to this topic.

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--- High schools play ten regular season games ... and not 12 as colleges do ( 13 if they have a conference championship game) . Four more games after the 12 might make some sense, and four more games would mean a 16 team tournament.... many colleges play two more now anyway... a conference championship and a bowl game (14).. so the two additional ones would only involve 4 teams in a semi-final and final games.

--- Besides... after the sixteen better teams, how many really have a decent chance at winning it all... likely none. They might win one or even two rounds. but all four, or maybe five..??? ...very unlikely.

--- I wish HS in Texas would go back to just two teams in a district advance. How many 3rd place teams are worth a darn... very few.

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*****The present holiday bowl system would not have to be trashed.... how many of those bowls have any bearing now of the "supposedly" champion... about one..... Teams not picked in the 16 could still play in the holiday bowls... They were originally considered a reward for a good season and now a getaway for fans and a moneymaker for the cities that host them. -- In fact the AP poll in the 60's did not even consider the bowl game results in its final vote.... likely because those teams had not played a game in a month and often gave odd results.... some teams took them very seriously, some didn't, just a fun time.

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#### Your interest statement on profile is so accurate... in 67-68, the black players we had weren't allowed to attend SWC or SEC schools when they left HS so we had a lot of great ones... that team was unbelievable great [ that same reason worked well for Texas Western and UCLA in basketball ]... also your statement about hiring the wrong person is correct too.. never understood that one ####

Edited May 24, 2012 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[MeanGreenTexan]

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--- High schools play ten regular season games ... and not 12 as colleges do ( 13 if they have a conference championship game) . Four more games after the 12 might make some sense, and four more games would mean a 16 team tournament.... many colleges play two more now anyway... a conference championship and a bowl game (14).. so the two additional ones would only involve 4 teams in a semi-final and final games.

--- Besides... after the sixteen better teams, how many really have a decent chance at winning it all... likely none. They might win one or even two rounds. but all four, or maybe five..??? ...very unlikely.

--- I wish HS in Texas would go back to just two teams in a district advance. How many 3rd place teams are worth a darn... very few.

Living in the Lake Cities for the past 5 years, I can tell you that when Ryan, Guyer, and Lake Dallas were in the same district, those were 3 teams that were VERY deserving of going to the playoffs.

[mgfan]

For the last time.... Conference champs and at large bids for a 16 team playoff. Current bowls will be the sites of these games. There problem solved.

[KRAM1]

It's a terrible idea. Look at Engish Premier, it's always the same teams in the top 5, and the bottom is just a churn of relegation and promotion. It benefits only the elite.

At least the "have not's" have a chance this way...not so in college football. Win enough, you move up...no one can keep you out of the "big boy" group if you win and it's "win" against your competition...not those "big boys" if you are not already in the Premier League. Look at Manchester City...doesn't seem like always the same five to me at this point now does it?

Remember Flyer...you have just recently come to the "beautiful game". ha! Just pullin' you leg a bit.

[forevereagle]

At least the "have not's" have a chance this way...not so in college football. Win enough, you move up...no one can keep you out of the "big boy" group if you win and it's "win" against your competition...not those "big boys" if you are not already in the Premier League. Look at Manchester City...doesn't seem like always the same five to me at this point now does it?

Remember Flyer...you have just recently come to the "beautiful game". ha! Just pullin' you leg a bit.

The problem is going to be recruiting. If you are a "have not" you will not be able to recruit against the top tier league even more so than now. The second tier teams will have nothing to sell for those looking to compete. You will not even be able to sell competing for a bowl game against the potential of a title. This would widen the gap. You can't just infuse the team with more money like you can in soccer over seas. Since you can't pay players, you would only get the runoff from the top tier teams.That's how the soccer teams move up, they bite the bullet, fork over cash to get players, and start winning. That model will not work here unless they start making college football a pro sport. I just don't see how this makes things any better than they are now, probably worse.

[Mark Gommesen]

The problem is going to be recruiting. If you are a "have not" you will not be able to recruit against the top tier league even more so than now. The second tier teams will have nothing to sell for those looking to compete. You will not even be able to sell competing for a bowl game against the potential of a title. This would widen the gap. You can't just infuse the team with more money like you can in soccer over seas. Since you can't pay players, you would only get the runoff from the top tier teams.That's how the soccer teams move up, they bite the bullet, fork over cash to get players, and start winning. That model will not work here unless they start making college football a pro sport. I just don't see how this makes things any better than they are now, probably worse.

I agree this plan would create a permit underclass of 60. The top 64 would the monopoly in recruiting and in money. Every one the 124 team should have chance at national title every year period.

[GL2Greatness]

I agree this plan would create a permit underclass of 60. The top 64 would the monopoly in recruiting and in money. Every one the 124 team should have chance at national title every year period.

they do...all you have to do is go out and beat a bunch of quality teams and don't lose to anyone along the way and if you do have a single loss make sure it is early in the year and to a really good team