What triggers a Seth Extension in your mind?

[cousin oliver]

If you have suggestions let me know and I will try to edit accordingly. 

[Matt from A700]

Thinking realistically, I think a conference championship appearance gets him extended, even if just another year. If this season only results in another bowl loss, I have 35% faith he will be gone.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

8-5 with bowl trophy. Nothing less. 

[TheColonyEagle]

I think it boils down to the structure of an extension. If he wins the conference and especially a bowl game as well, I could see an extension being given

My thought all along is no extension under any circumstance....but that is based on my assumption that his agent is going to be expecting the same type of extension he got before or multiple years with a big buyout....that's gonna be a no for me dawg...

But if the extension were one that was favorable to NT...then I'm all for it. I just don't think Sexton/Littrell will accept one.

 

Additional thought: I don't want to commit $10+ million to Littrell for the next 5 years with little/no out. I think that would be foolish...but again, I have to think that is what Sexton is going to want...then Wren has a decision to make.

If he wins conference and a bowl game, tack on 2 more years after next year with very little buy out. I'm on board with that. 

But I would guess Sexton would laugh at an offer like that...and I'm sure many will see that as "insulting" to Littrell. Tough sh*t, go get a better one somewhere else then..

Edited October 31, 2022 by TheColonyEagle

[UNT Texas Hooligan]

Conference Championship appearance and a bowl win. Nothing less

[UNTLifer]

4 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

I think it boils down to the structure of an extension. If he wins the conference and especially a bowl game as well, I could see an extension being given

My thought all along is no extension under any circumstance....but that is based on my assumption that his agent is going to be expecting the same type of extension he got before or multiple years with a big buyout....that's gonna be a no for me dawg...

But if the extension were one that was favorable to NT...then I'm all for it. I just don't think Sexton/Littrell will accept one.

 

I agree, but I don't think SL has the leverage he had before.

[TheColonyEagle]

1 minute ago, UNTLifer said:

I agree, but I don't think SL has the leverage he had before.

100% correct

[Wag Tag]

At this point he has to get into the Championship game and win either the Championship Game or the Bowl Game to get a 2 yr extension. I admire how he has been able to pull his teams together in the face of adversity. Last year and this year would be examples. GMG

[MeanGreenTexan]

I said conf championship.   Not the game, but winning.

Even then, we cannot be hoodwinked into a big 5yr extension.   
It's gotta be 3 years max, preferably 2.   

Show us you can do this again next year in the AAC, and we'll talk 4-5yr extension.

[TheColonyEagle]

If he wins out including the bowl game (that's a big IF), his resume over 7 seasons will be:

47-42 overall record

1-5 bowl game record

1 conference championship

(I'm not going to get into record vs winning teams, etc. That's been documented)

That's best case scenario

I would say it's more than likely going to be:

45-44 overall record

0-6 bowl game record (maybe he wins it, who knows)

0 conference championships

You either think that is a good enough resume for this program to keep investing long term in, or you think it is NOT good enough for this program moving forward.

Those on the outside that view NT Football as we're lucky to even have a team, will think it's CRAZY to not hang on to a coach like that. Because....outside of a few flashes, we've never been good. Those that think we can take this program to the next level (I'm talking UH, UCF, Boise, Cincy) will want to upgrade.

How you view this program will determine the answer.

[southsideguy]

27 minutes ago, UNT Texas Hooligan said:

Conference Championship appearance and a bowl win. Nothing less

Participation trophy doesn't count right?

[Glory to the Green]

Winning out guarantees an extension for me. Any type of ugly CUSA Championship loss or ugly bowl loss GREATLY jeopardizes any chance. It just sets us back so much, man. A competitive loss keeps the conversation going. 

[UNT Texas Hooligan]

7 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

Participation trophy doesn't count right?

Any hardware for a coach with zero hardware is an improvement 

[MeanGreenTexan]

5 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:

Winning out guarantees an extension for me. Any type of ugly CUSA Championship loss or ugly bowl loss GREATLY jeopardizes any chance. It just sets us back so much, man. A competitive loss keeps the conversation going. 

Get ready for the excuses to pile up when KD Davis decides not to play in the bowl game to ensure he's healthy for the draft.   
According to many here, NT lost the Frisco Made Up Bowl to flipping Miami, OH last year simply because DeAndre Torrey didn't play.

[southsideguy]

Unless the bowl counts toward something the top players are saying no thank you.  Aune may not play since he going pro.  At least we will get to see the backups play.

Edited October 31, 2022 by southsideguy

[untjim1995]

I will be shocked if 7 wins doesn't get him 3 extra years here...championship game and bowl game win or not

[cousin oliver]

I am not saying we extend him but if we do it has to be for 5 years or you are just giving UTSA and Jeff Traylor a huge advantage in recruiting.

[TheColonyEagle]

24 minutes ago, cousin oliver said:

I am not saying we extend him but if we do it has to be for 5 years or you are just giving UTSA and Jeff Traylor a huge advantage in recruiting.

If you’re right, then the decision is easy….

[El Paso Eagle]

35 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Get ready for the excuses to pile up when KD Davis decides not to play in the bowl game to ensure he's healthy for the draft.   
According to many here, NT lost the Frisco Made Up Bowl to flipping Miami, OH last year simply because DeAndre Torrey didn't play.

Maybe KD will see how it worked out for DT and play

[MeanGreenTexan]

1 minute ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Maybe KD will see how it worked out for DT and play

The same guy who flirted with A&M and Ole Miss just a few weeks before the season was to start?    KD is awesome, but I don't know that he's going to put this team over his opportunity.

[El Paso Eagle]

7 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

The same guy who flirted with A&M and Ole Miss just a few weeks before the season was to start?    KD is awesome, but I don't know that he's going to put this team over his opportunity.

Trust me, I would give myself a "Skeptical Eagle" for my comment if I could. 

[GrandGreen]

If NT finishes second in the conference and they certainly should at this point, Littrell will be offered a new contract.

It will also be possible at that point that he is offered a better contract.   Those thinking that if he wins out including the bowl game that NT will dictate the terms are badly mistaken. 

 

[El Paso Eagle]

Just now, GrandGreen said:

It will also be possible at that point that he is offered a better contract. 

I think this would probably drive a lot of fans away for good

[Glory to the Green]

25 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

The same guy who flirted with A&M and Ole Miss just a few weeks before the season was to start?    KD is awesome, but I don't know that he's going to put this team over his opportunity.

I’m okay with it, just as long as the coaches/teammates have time to prep. If it’s a game time decision, it’s a different story.  Dudes been balling out for us for 4 years, if he wants a game off, I understand. I’d want him to play, but I doubt he’s going to ask me my opinion. 😂

[GrandGreen]

2 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

I think this would probably drive a lot of fans away for good

Who?  

Most fans want a winner and if Littrell wins out; NT will gain fans not the opposite.