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I enjoy a good debate, so here's my counter. I'm basing my recruiting on the overall metrics and rankings on popular sites like 247, ON3, Rivals, etc. I never said Litrell got every drop out of what he has to offer. But you can't argue that he didn't compete and beat most of his competition in the realm of of recruiting. Not on field performance, in-game decisions, staffing choices, etc. I'm isolating my argument to recruiting. Which, by G5 standards was above average and by conference standards he was in the upper echelon. North Texas was behind UTSA in 2022 but... the three years prior UNT's class was all ranked ahead. This is the exact revisionist mindset i'm talking about. They might not have maximized that potential, but by all exterior metrics the class was considered better year over year at UNT. Hell last season we had 5 All-CUSA first teamers Horton, Gummes, Mose, KD, Texada. We have an elite receiving core still in the building and had one of the better o-lines in the country. Running back room has been more than full the entire time he was here. Litrell didn't lose his seasons in the offseason recruiting periods it was in player development, and in some of his coordinator hires.

The point is that we all were excited when he recruited and signed his classes including those 8 QB's just like we are all excited with what Morris and staff are doing at this time. The difference is that we can now look back and see how SL's classes turned out/developed. We don't have that ability yet with Morris' class, so you are not comparing on like information.

No TL;DR, why bother posting if one isn't going to read? A disturbing trend this user has seen first-hand over a decade now, yet in many cases, those saying or asking for such a thing either post a longer diatribe or spend longer on a site than the poster of the OP and/or don't ask for such a thing in a polite enough manner to warrant the OP to give such a thing. Anyways....how about riffing on the Seattle Seahawks NFL team whereby the 'Battle Flag' is not only used on both sides of the helmet, but the BACK of the helmet as well? Picture two 'flag-beaks', one on each side of the helmet, and then on the back two more....FACING each other (like the newer Seattle Seahawks helmets) to give off the illusion of a 'Mean Green Eagle' staring back at the camera/defender running behind a Mean Green player? If the images of a 'flag-beak' still come across as too 2-dimensional, that could be corrected by making the 'star' of the flag, the one that doubles as an 'eagle eye', appear as if it were 'rotated' 45-degrees, by shrinking the 'left' point of the star, lengthening the 'top' and 'bottom' points of the star, and widening the 'right' point of the star! Bleeding a brush stroke (or having the same stitch work as the 'left' shade of green as the hockey uniforms have) stretch ever so slightly across to the right into the territory of the other shade of green could help with the desired 3-D appearance, both as a finishing touch for flag waviness and as a pronounced eagle's beak! IMHO, THAT'D BE COOL!

Oh, his rating will go up a minimum of three points just by committing to FSU.

FSU has 2 freshmen safeties, 2 freshmen corners, and a transfer corner all committed for the 2023 class. Hopefully they're done in the DB department. Aside from their current commits, I think they're well aware of the SOC defense considering the recent state championships and recruiting one of the SOC LBs. If they haven't offered yet, I hope it indicates they're not after them.