Super Pit Question

[UNTcrazy727]

13 hours ago, Clinetort said:

I agree to a certain extent that my emotions are in play.  But logically, baseball is THE sport that we could compete with anyone on a national level.  That will never happen with football and is unlikely to happen with basketball.

 

This is a ridiculous statement after the last 2 seasons we've had. 

[greenminer]

I still think we can compete for a spot in the CFB T25.

Odds for the playoffs are slim-to-zero, but we can absolutely invest and expect to compete for AAC titles and fight for T25 opportunities (and the viewership that would come with it).

[Green Otaku]

12 hours ago, Jonnyeagle said:

It’s really quite ridiculous that UNT AD can sell that we can’t afford baseball but nUTSACk with their paupers budget can.  What’s worse is some on here have bought that story hook, line and slinker.

 

It's not about being able to afford it. It's about where you allocate your resources, and what you give priority to. 

[Clinetort]

55 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

 

It's not about being able to afford it. It's about where you allocate your resources, and what you give priority to. 

Absolutely!  It's time to allocate some resource for a program that has the potential to be nationally relevant.  

[Green Otaku]

14 minutes ago, Clinetort said:

Absolutely!  It's time to allocate some resource for a program that has the potential to be nationally relevant.  

Agreed! Which is why it should go to Basketball 😉

[Clinetort]

6 hours ago, Green Otaku said:

Agreed! Which is why it should go to Basketball 😉

I am 100 percent in agreement that we need a new basketball practice facility.  We can build that and add baseball at the same time.  Building a new arena, however, would be a waste of money.

[bstnsportsfan3]

On 3/9/2022 at 11:01 PM, Jonnyeagle said:

It’s really quite ridiculous that UNT AD can sell that we can’t afford baseball but nUTSACk with their paupers budget can.  What’s worse is some on here have bought that story hook, line and slinker.

Our AD has not once said we can’t afford baseball. We can afford it but are choosing to concentrate on making sure the current sports we have are performing at a high level and competitive for championships and that they have the resources needed to do so. The money for baseball is better allocated through other sports programs currently. Having talked to him personally, he does envision a time where NT will have baseball and he knows the fan base wants it, but it’s not a main priority at the moment. 

[Censored by Laurie]

On 3/9/2022 at 7:32 PM, Clinetort said:

What we get back is entertainment 

now I'm confused. I thought you've been talking about baseball.

Edited March 11, 2022 by Censored by Laurie

[Clinetort]

2 hours ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

Our AD has not once said we can’t afford baseball. We can afford it but are choosing to concentrate on making sure the current sports we have are performing at a high level and competitive for championships and that they have the resources needed to do so. The money for baseball is better allocated through other sports programs currently. Having talked to him personally, he does envision a time where NT will have baseball and he knows the fan base wants it, but it’s not a main priority at the moment. 

Baseball has been "envisioned" for thirty years.  It's time for the baseball fan base that has been patient to rise up and demand baseball be added before the proposed arena sucks all the money out of that possibility.  

Edited March 11, 2022 by Clinetort

[DentonLurker]

3 hours ago, Clinetort said:

It's time for the baseball fan base that has been patient to rise up and demand baseball be added before the proposed arena sucks all the money out of that possibility.

At the end of the day, my guess is the baseball fan base you refer to hasn't offered to write big enough checks yet. If enough people stepped forward willing to write checks for baseball vs. any other sport, my guess is we would add baseball.

[Clinetort]

1 hour ago, DentonLurker said:

At the end of the day, my guess is the baseball fan base you refer to hasn't offered to write big enough checks yet. If enough people stepped forward willing to write checks for baseball vs. any other sport, my guess is we would add baseball.

I know for a fact that the athletic department has been approached by baseball donors.  

[DentonLurker]

1 hour ago, Clinetort said:

I know for a fact that the athletic department has been approached by baseball donors.  

I do too. I know a couple of them. Their idea of what it costs to build a stadium and run a program was a long way from reality.

[Clinetort]

4 hours ago, DentonLurker said:

I do too. I know a couple of them. Their idea of what it costs to build a stadium and run a program was a long way from reality.

What would you consider the cost prospects to build a baseball program?  80 million or less?

[DentonLurker]

40 minutes ago, Clinetort said:

What would you consider the cost prospects to build a baseball program?  80 million or less?

This actually further makes my point. There just aren’t enough donors willing to commit enough dollars to support baseball even though the commitment would be significantly lower than a new basketball/volleyball arena.

[Tom McKrackin]

2 minutes ago, DentonLurker said:

This actually further makes my point. There just aren’t enough donors willing to commit enough dollars to support baseball even though the commitment would be significantly lower than a new basketball/volleyball arena.

How exactly do you know this?

[DentonLurker]

10 minutes ago, Tom McKrackin said:

How exactly do you know this?

Obviously, like any opinion on a message board, it’s my opinion based on the fact that baseball hasn’t been added. If there was a commitment from donors that would support the building of a baseball stadium and support the ongoing costs, why would the school not have moved on it? I can’t imagine they’re sitting there thinking, “I know we have this huge commitment. Let’s just not do this.”

[Clinetort]

11 hours ago, DentonLurker said:

Obviously, like any opinion on a message board, it’s my opinion based on the fact that baseball hasn’t been added. If there was a commitment from donors that would support the building of a baseball stadium and support the ongoing costs, why would the school not have moved on it? I can’t imagine they’re sitting there thinking, “I know we have this huge commitment. Let’s just not do this.”

There was a very public commitment by the Lovelace family to be the lead donor in starting the baseball program.  When Wren came in, he convinced them to move their commitment to the indoor practice facility.