The SBC...

[NorthTexasWeLove]

...very well might end up being the strongest "G5" conference. Go examine their current status, teams entering into that league, as well as the positive trajectory of that group. 

I'll hang up and listen. 

[bstnsportsfan3]

AAC is still going to be better

[NorthTexasWeLove]

1 minute ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

AAC is still going to be better

Go top 3, middle 3, bottom 3. Pair them up, who wins? 

And if Memphis and SMU exits stage left somehow then I'm not even sure it's a debate. 

[El Paso Eagle]

If Coastal loses their coach and Napier decides to move on it could change the landscape quickly

[El Paso Eagle]

5 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Go top 3, middle 3, bottom 3. Pair them up, who wins? 

And if Memphis and SMU exits stage left somehow then I'm not even sure it's a debate. 

Using your logic then the Big 12 will be a much better conference than the Pac-12

[NorthTexasWeLove]

Just now, El Paso Eagle said:

Using your logic then the Big 12 will be a much better conference than the Pac-12

I won't argue with that. Pac12 has been doodoo top to bottom for some time. 

[El Paso Eagle]

Don't get me wrong the Sun Belt is on a hot streak. But only Appalachian State has proven to be a winner even with coaching changes

[NorthTexasWeLove]

I recall being on the receiving end of some bowl beatdowns delivered to us by a couple belt squads. It's fairly reasonable to state the belt has been better than CUSA for maybe 5 years? So, did the AAC get stronger with their new 6 additions than the Belt and their newest additions? 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

Just now, El Paso Eagle said:

Don't get me wrong the Sun Belt is on a hot streak. But only Appalachian State has proven to be a winner even with coaching changes

A-State. Yes, they're on a down year, but who has changed more at the G5 level and sustained? Boise, I guess. That's it. 

I just think we'll see them really catapult. We like our new home, and as do I, but we need to examine ourselves while looking at our travel brethren from the old CUSA. 

[El Paso Eagle]

20 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

A-State. Yes, they're on a down year, but who has changed more at the G5 level and sustained? Boise, I guess. That's it. 

I just think we'll see them really catapult. We like our new home, and as do I, but we need to examine ourselves while looking at our travel brethren from the old CUSA. 

A-State --11 years 5 coaches - And Anderson was there 7 years. Wow

[Arkstfan]

Sustaining is HARD in G5.

Until last year AState had a 9 year bowl appearance streak, that was third longest in G5 with San Diego State one appearance ahead of us at 10 and Boise’s at 22. Their 22 year streak was 11th all-time and best ever for a G5. All three of us fell out last year.

Currently there is an equal number of G5 and P5 but the 10 longest all-time streaks belong to P5. Coming into this year, the 11 longest active bowl appearance streaks are P5.

22 schools carried bowl appearance streaks of four or more years into this season, 17 are P5.

La.Tech and Memphis currently lead G5 with 7 season streaks. Tech’s ends with one more loss, Memphis has to win two of the last four to stay alive.

Meanwhile UGA and OU have streaks more than 3x as long and they’ve clinched another year. 

Of the 11 schools ahead of Tech and Memphis in active streaks Miami at 4-4 is the only one in any danger of not extending their streak.

The margin for error for G5 programs is far smaller than for P5 programs.

[El Paso Eagle]

1 hour ago, Arkstfan said:

Sustaining is HARD in G5.

Until last year AState had a 9 year bowl appearance streak, that was third longest in G5 with San Diego State one appearance ahead of us at 10 and Boise’s at 22. Their 22 year streak was 11th all-time and best ever for a G5. All three of us fell out last year.

Currently there is an equal number of G5 and P5 but the 10 longest all-time streaks belong to P5. Coming into this year, the 11 longest active bowl appearance streaks are P5.

22 schools carried bowl appearance streaks of four or more years into this season, 17 are P5.

La.Tech and Memphis currently lead G5 with 7 season streaks. Tech’s ends with one more loss, Memphis has to win two of the last four to stay alive.

Meanwhile UGA and OU have streaks more than 3x as long and they’ve clinched another year. 

Of the 11 schools ahead of Tech and Memphis in active streaks Miami at 4-4 is the only one in any danger of not extending their streak.

The margin for error for G5 programs is far smaller than for P5 programs.

I should have mentioned you guys with App State. The success you have had with the changes at coach is impressive

[MDH]

MWC is the strongest G5 with AAC losses to big 12. SBC has recency bias going for them, but please tell me their strongest win OOC. Kansas?? ESPN has created this perception for them. Mwc is .500 against the pac 12 this year with 8 games played. 
 

MWC>>new AAC>SBC>MAC

[ColoradoEagle]

The teams moving to the Sun Belt are currently 8-16 on the season. The AAC adds are 27-21.

Sun Belt added a couple programs with histories in Marshall and Southern Miss, but that’s about it. There’s a reason they added after the AAC and not before. 

[Arkstfan]

23 hours ago, ColoradoEagle said:

The teams moving to the Sun Belt are currently 8-16 on the season. The AAC adds are 27-21.

Sun Belt added a couple programs with histories in Marshall and Southern Miss, but that’s about it. There’s a reason they added after the AAC and not before. 

JMU fits the Sun Belt model perfectly. Very successful FCS with national profile in at other sports. 
 

[southsideguy]

So glad we could help this AAC numbers with our two wins.......😉

[shaft]

Waiting for evidence of any mid-major program what has sustained its football success over 5 years, let alone an entire conference.   Boise had a good run, but didn't last a coaching change.

So why do you care about a conference that your not in and don't play teams from?

[UNTLifer]

25 minutes ago, shaft said:

Waiting for evidence of any mid-major program what has sustained its football success over 5 years, let alone an entire conference.   Boise had a good run, but didn't last a coaching change.

So why do you care about a conference that your not in and don't play teams from?

Boise's record from 2000 through last year is 219 - 45.  They are 5 - 2 this year.

[TheColonyEagle]

17 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Boise's record from 2000 through last year is 219 - 45.  They are 5 - 2 this year.

Plus Brian Harsin replaced Chris Peterson and had five 10+ win season out of seven.  

[Arkstfan]

1 hour ago, shaft said:

Waiting for evidence of any mid-major program what has sustained its football success over 5 years, let alone an entire conference.   Boise had a good run, but didn't last a coaching change.

So why do you care about a conference that your not in and don't play teams from?

Boise 22 year bowl streak, bowl eligible like 25-26 straight years, SDSU 10 year bowl streak, AState 9, La Tech 7, Memphis 7. 

[shaft]

On 11/1/2021 at 1:17 PM, Arkstfan said:

Boise 22 year bowl streak, bowl eligible like 25-26 straight years, SDSU 10 year bowl streak, AState 9, La Tech 7, Memphis 7. 

Missed all those New Years bowls from SDSU, AState, LA Tech & Memphis.   

[Cerebus]

On 11/1/2021 at 9:58 AM, southsideguy said:

So glad we could help this AAC numbers with our two wins.......😉

Yes, but one of our wins is against an AAC team...

[emmitt01]

On 10/30/2021 at 10:19 PM, NorthTexasWeLove said:

I won't argue with that. Pac12 has been doodoo top to bottom for some time. 

Oregon would curb stomp every member of the Big XII

[NorthTexasWeLove]

3 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

Oregon would curb stomp every member of the Big XII

Oregon lost to 3-5 Stanford.

Beat unranked Cal by 7. 

Beat unranked ucla by 3. 

All of which are losing Pac12 teams. 

Beat Fresno by 7.

 

Move along. 

Edited November 3, 2021 by NorthTexasWeLove

[untjim1995]

11 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Oregon lost to 3-5 Stanford.

Beat unranked Cal by 7. 

Beat unranked ucla by 3. 

All of which are losing Pac12 teams. 

Beat Fresno by 7.

 

Move along. 

The committee disagrees with vehemently...so does Ohio State