NIL. What could possibly go wrong??

[El Paso Eagle]

29 minutes ago, DentonLurker said:

Private school dollars are going to come in handy in this new world

This has nothing to do with NIL. This is a loophole to pay players. This is why I have said SMU could end up a big winner in the NIL scam

[Censored by Laurie]

9 hours ago, MeanGreen_MBA said:

Not sure what this has to do with the topic at hand. We are talking about student athletes….not coaches, administrators, and certainly not the NCAA. Student athlete on scholarship are handsomely compensated for their efforts on the field with the scholarships they receive. If they want to get paid…I suggest paying them, but take away the scholarship. They can pay tuition, room and board out of their salary. What is wrong with that??  However, if they fail to pay tuition, they are dropped from the team for non-enrollment. 
playing college sports is not much different that doing an internship. You are learning the game/work it takes to succeed at your chosen occupation. Hopefully enough that somebody will hire/draft you to work for them. 

this is the narrative that needs to die a quick death.

taking out the exhaustive arguments and stats regarding the true value of a college education in today's economy...there probably existed a time when this was a valid narrative...largely pre-BCS as others have pointed out, but with the money in college football today, the idea that a $50k/year stipend for the pleasure of putting your body on the line weekly is "handsomely compensating" an athlete (the product) is laughable. 

lets take UT...if you believe the true "value" of a scholarship to UT is $50/k year and you have 85 scholarship players...your outlay is $4.25M...for a program with $165,000,000 annual revenue and a total value over a billion. hell,  Steve Sarkisian makes $5.2M annually. you want some real fun with math, you say? well if that player:coach ration existed in the NFL, you average NFL coach would make over $220M a year. 

[meangreen11]

Just now, Censored by Laurie said:

the idea that a $50k/year stipend for the pleasure of putting your body on the line weekly is "handsomely compensating" an athlete (the product) is laughable.

Stated this multiple times on this board and others.  The huge rise in coaches salaries as well as network revenue is what caused most of this.  You can't pay the coaches millions when the players are the ones doing the damn job on the field and risking their bodies every day in practice.  And the damn colleges made a fortune as well!  Look at some of those TV contracts. The NCAA is a farce and was only in place to keep the money flowing into the universities.

[MeanGreen_MBA]

9 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

this is the narrative that needs to die a quick death.

taking out the exhaustive arguments and stats regarding the true value of a college education in today's economy...there probably existed a time when this was a valid narrative...largely pre-BCS as others have pointed out, but with the money in college football today, the idea that a $50k/year stipend for the pleasure of putting your body on the line weekly is "handsomely compensating" an athlete (the product) is laughable. 

lets take UT...if you believe the true "value" of a scholarship to UT is $50/k year and you have 85 scholarship players...your outlay is $4.25M...for a program with $165,000,000 annual revenue and a total value over a billion. hell,  Steve Sarkisian makes $5.2M annually. you want some real fun with math, you say? well if that player:coach ration existed in the NFL, you average NFL coach would make over $220M a year. 

You start paying the players, they become employees. They will soon unionize, and follow up with a strike. This will happen. 
 

how do you determine the pay rate?  You talk about UT. This type of situation represents a small percentage of the total number of schools with football. How is Tarleton State, or even Texas State supposed to compete?  How do they parcel out the pay?  What about golfers….do they get paid?  How do they get paid?  Golf does not generate money for that?

do JC’s also pay?   Your not looking at the total picture. 

[GrandGreen]

2 hours ago, MeanGreen_MBA said:

You start paying the players, they become employees. They will soon unionize, and follow up with a strike. This will happen. 
 

how do you determine the pay rate?  You talk about UT. This type of situation represents a small percentage of the total number of schools with football. How is Tarleton State, or even Texas State supposed to compete?  How do they parcel out the pay?  What about golfers….do they get paid?  How do they get paid?  Golf does not generate money for that?

do JC’s also pay?   Your not looking at the total picture. 

True, looking at UT as a typical program is ludicrous. 

Most college programs lose millions on sports subtracting the student fees that support most of them.  

 

[UNTLifer]

4 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

the student fees that support most of them.  

 

Think  your regular student is going to be happy paying a fee to support the program while the program is paying its players?  Don't think so.

[97and03]

How are the players employees of the university if they are getting money from private business?

[MeanGreen_MBA]

32 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

How are the players employees of the university if they are getting money from private business?

You gave to keep up….the notion of paying players was brought up in the thread because coaches make a lot of money. 

[97and03]

On 7/2/2021 at 10:58 AM, 97and03 said:

Sarah Fuller will make more money off this than any our our football players. 

Was also honored at the ESPYs last month. This young woman is bringing a lot of good attention our way. 

[97and03]

Not NIL related directly but this lady sure had a strong brand!

 

[El Paso Eagle]

4 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

Not NIL related directly but this lady sure had a strong brand!

 

Nice. Wish she would wear some UNT gear in some of these pictures