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I will pitch in however much is needed because he has done nothing but disappoint here. No bowl wins, no championships, 1-4 against SMU, very few wins over teams above .500, always something on e

SMU won by getting an infusion of P5 talent that they “recruited.”  

As I say this, they score.  Forgot to mention we have never had a good OL, defense has been slow almost every year, never ready. Clearly they focus on other things besides winning. WE A

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I would literally give money (actual cash, go to the bank and give it to SL in hand) to not quit. You morons lack any concept of history with Todd Dodge, Dan McCarney, etc. I want us to win but holy **** he's kept us competitive in our division which is a ****ing miracle considering our football history.  If you want Bill Belichick, expect to pay out much more.

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8 minutes ago, peanuts104 said:

I would literally give money (actual cash, go to the bank and give it to SL in hand) to not quit. You morons lack any concept of history with Todd Dodge, Dan McCarney, etc. I want us to win but holy **** he's kept us competitive in our division which is a ****ing miracle considering our football history.  If you want Bill Belichick, expect to pay out much more.

Our division is EASILY the worst FBS division in college football.  Staying competitive with this bunch is the lowest bar you could have. SL’s been good here  BECAUSE of this division. 

UTEP, us, UTSA, and Rice are 4 of the worst teams FBS offers, easily in the bottom dozen. La Tech and UAB own this thing because they actually have physical lines and defenses that maul the Texas schools something fierce. 

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30 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

Our division is EASILY the worst FBS division in college football.  Staying competitive with this bunch is the lowest bar you could have. SL’s been good here  BECAUSE of this division. 

UTEP, us, UTSA, and Rice are 4 of the worst teams FBS offers, easily in the bottom dozen. La Tech and UAB own this thing because they actually have physical lines and defenses that maul the Texas schools something fierce. 

So you're making an excuse that even if we win out in CUSA it doesn't matter. On point for the "let's hate the staff" standpoint.

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6 hours ago, peanuts104 said:

So you're making an excuse that even if we win out in CUSA it doesn't matter. On point for the "let's hate the staff" standpoint.

I never said that in my post—like at all. If SL wins CUSA West, he will almost certainly get an extension here, whether we want that to happen or not.

i don’t hate SL or anyone. I just recognize what he is—a Leach disciple that has no interest in defense. 

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26 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

I never said that in my post—like at all. If SL wins CUSA West, he will almost certainly get an extension here, whether we want that to happen or not.

i don’t hate SL or anyone. I just recognize what he is—a Leach disciple that has no interest in defense. 

I think if the Mean Green win the West, it will be because we went 8-0 (or 7-1 with a win VS LATech), in conference play, and that would make everyone forget about this awful loss & pat Littrell on the back again, myself included. 
It would mean an incredible turnaround, and greatly improved play, which would be fine with me.

It would take a miracle for that scenario to unfold though.

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Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:

I think if the Mean Green win the West, it will be because we went 8-0 (or 7-1 with a win VS LATech), in conference play, and that would make everyone forget about this awful loss & pat Littrell on the back again, myself included. 
It would mean an incredible turnaround, and greatly improved play, which would be fine with me.

It would take a miracle for that scenario to unfold though.

Agreed

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Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:

I think if the Mean Green win the West, it will be because we went 8-0 (or 7-1 with a win VS LATech), in conference play, and that would make everyone forget about this awful loss & pat Littrell on the back again, myself included. 
It would mean an incredible turnaround, and greatly improved play, which would be fine with me.

It would take a miracle for that scenario to unfold though.

Considering we have a defense that can't even tackle properly, an offensive line that can't block, and a very inconsistent QB play, I doubt we even win 3 games. Sure smu is good, but teams like UAB will eat us for breakfast lunch and dinner

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8 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I think if the Mean Green win the West, it will be because we went 8-0 (or 7-1 with a win VS LATech), in conference play, and that would make everyone forget about this awful loss & pat Littrell on the back again, myself included. 
It would mean an incredible turnaround, and greatly improved play, which would be fine with me.

It would take a miracle for that scenario to unfold though.

No, I think winning the west would just reinforce the overall perception that C-USA is the worst conference in the FBS. And in my opinion, C-USA West is the worst of the two divisions, which makes it an even easier accomplishment. But, like you stated, it would take a miracle. Even so, should we happen to win the remaining games on our schedule and finish the regular season with an 10-1 record, I will still want Littrell gone.  To keep him would be to accept an annual butt kicking from SMU for the remainder of this series. That just isn't okay with me.

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4 hours ago, Side Show Joe said:

...Even so, should we happen to win the remaining games on our schedule and finish the regular season with an 10-1 record, I will still want Littrell gone.  To keep him would be to accept an annual butt kicking from SMU for the remainder of this series. That just isn't okay with me.

I really feel like I should think this post is asinine, but a little bit of me agrees.

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4 hours ago, Side Show Joe said:

No, I think winning the west would just reinforce the overall perception that C-USA is the worst conference in the FBS. And in my opinion, C-USA West is the worst of the two divisions, which makes it an even easier accomplishment. But, like you stated, it would take a miracle. Even so, should we happen to win the remaining games on our schedule and finish the regular season with an 10-1 record, I will still want Littrell gone.  To keep him would be to accept an annual butt kicking from SMU for the remainder of this series. That just isn't okay with me.

Replaced with whom? 

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22 hours ago, tmjerm said:

Replaced with whom? 

I haven't done any research, but just off the top of my head... Skip Holtz would be much better than Littrell. Holtz has led LA Tech to 6 straight bowl wins, including two against P5 programs (Miami & Illinois) and a 51-10 win over SMU in the Frisco Bowl (SMU beat North Texas by a score of 54-32 that season). I know Skip just signed a new deal with LA Tech, but even his new deal is worth a million dollars less than what we are wasting on LIttrell. Also, Holtz owns Littrell. Over the course of his time at UNT, Littrell has complied a 1-3 record against Skip's LA Tech teams. And to top it off, Holtz has dome all this with one of the worst budgets in the FBS. I wonder what Skip could do with our resources.

If I have time I will look in to finding other qualified candidates. Here is a link to the story on the new Holtz contract....

https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/sports/college/louisiana-tech/2020/09/03/louisiana-tech-skip-holtz-agree-new-five-year-contract/5679374002/

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6 minutes ago, Side Show Joe said:

I haven't done any research, but just off the top of my head... Skip Holtz would be much better than Littrell. Holtz has led LA Tech to 6 straight bowl wins, including two against P5 programs (Miami & Illinois) and a 51-10 win over SMU in the Frisco Bowl (SMU beat North Texas by a score of 54-32 that season). I know Skip just signed a new deal with LA Tech, but even his new deal is worth a million dollars less than what we are wasting on LIttrell. Also, Holtz owns Littrell. Over the course of his time at UNT, Littrell has complied a 1-3 record against Skip's LA Tech teams. And to top it off, Holtz has dome all this with one of the worst budgets in the FBS. I wonder what Skip could do with our resources.

If I have time I will look in to finding other qualified candidates. Here is a link to the story on the new Holtz contract....

https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/sports/college/louisiana-tech/2020/09/03/louisiana-tech-skip-holtz-agree-new-five-year-contract/5679374002/

Ok, I’d be fine with that.  I honestly think he’d take the freedom of Ruston over the uptightness of NT politics but I would love to be wrong.  He’s done great there.  I do personally still have patience for Seth, especially in this year.  But I’d absolutely take Skip. 

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More money, but a lateral move (downgrade, depending on POV) for Holtz.  His next stop won't be UNT. It will probably be a P5. He was shortlisted by a bunch of P5s this last year, so that's his next step. Going to UNT would be a risky short-term move for him.

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Skip Holtz ain’t Leaving La Tech for here. He’s got enough money to last a lifetime. He knows La Tech has plenty of talent to recruit in Louisiana and East Texas, as well as Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas. They will never have trouble getting talent there. 

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I had to log in and post a reply to Side Show on this. I love your enthusiasm for UNT Side Show but there's no way in hell Coach Holtz is leaving Tech for UNT. Like untjim1995 stated he has enough money. Legacy is what matters at this point to Coach Holtz. He can continue to build upon his HOF coaching career at Tech. There's no way Coach Holtz leaves Tech for any G5 school and I doubt he would settle for just any P5 school at this point in his career too.

The only way Coach Holtz leaves Tech for another G5 school is if something happened to sour the relationship he currently has with the administration at Tech.

Tech is currently looking for a new Athletic Director at this moment so hopefully the school makes a good hire. 

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3 hours ago, Manlaw35 said:

I had to log in and post a reply to Side Show on this. I love your enthusiasm for UNT Side Show but there's no way in hell Coach Holtz is leaving Tech for UNT. Like untjim1995 stated he has enough money. Legacy is what matters at this point to Coach Holtz. He can continue to build upon his HOF coaching career at Tech. There's no way Coach Holtz leaves Tech for any G5 school and I doubt he would settle for just any P5 school at this point in his career too.

The only way Coach Holtz leaves Tech for another G5 school is if something happened to sour the relationship he currently has with the administration at Tech.

Tech is currently looking for a new Athletic Director at this moment so hopefully the school makes a good hire. 

Oh, I think he’d leave there for an AAC job that paid well—SMU is probably his next landing spot when Dykes gets hired away by Tech to come home.

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Winning CUSA-W shouldn't be the goal only a step on the ladder. But those Florida teams are a killer for Seth...FAU/Willie just visited Broward County CDC and signed two to LOI. FIU is next on the visitors list.

 

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17 minutes ago, vpackrats said:

Does anyone chuckle at people with unrealistic expectations?  "Hey, great job North Texas!  You went 10-1 ... but you had a bad game against SMU.  Littrell ... you're fired.  Let's get an all new-coaching staff in here and rebuild this thing in 3 to 4 years with their new philosophy".  

So it sounds like you'll only be happy if we go undefeated every year?  Pretty tough bar to clear.  My advice would be to buy a lot of TUMS because we're not going 10-1.  In a related note, I'm assuming you picked UNT to go 11-0 in Brett Vito's "get your rear on the record" contest or whatever he calls it?

Lol last year was brutal for Brett's game... many people including I think Mason Fine's Granddad picked us to go 11-1 and 12-0 lol

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On 9/21/2020 at 2:22 AM, peanuts104 said:

So you're making an excuse that even if we win out in CUSA it doesn't matter. 

People actually used to make that argument the last time we had a coach take us to multiple bowls out of the worst 1-A conference in college football. 

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9 hours ago, vpackrats said:

Does anyone chuckle at people with unrealistic expectations?  "Hey, great job North Texas!  You went 10-1 ... but you had a bad game against SMU.  Littrell ... you're fired.  Let's get an all new-coaching staff in here and rebuild this thing in 3 to 4 years with their new philosophy".  

So it sounds like you'll only be happy if we go undefeated every year?  Pretty tough bar to clear.  My advice would be to buy a lot of TUMS because we're not going 10-1.  In a related note, I'm assuming you picked UNT to go 11-0 in Brett Vito's "get your rear on the record" contest or whatever he calls it?

We all know this team won't go undefeated in conference play, regardless of how many games we actually get to play. The point of my post, which you either missed or chose to misrepresent, is that C-USA is terrible, especially C-USA West. So, by all accounts we should win some of those games. But, even so, it will not mean our program has progressed, although some on here will use those wins to justify our current direction in year 5 of the Littrell era. I believe anyone that drinks that green Kool-Aid is setting themselves up for more disappointment.

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11 hours ago, Side Show Joe said:

We all know this team won't go undefeated in conference play, regardless of how many games we actually get to play. The point of my post, which you either missed or chose to misrepresent, is that C-USA is terrible, especially C-USA West. So, by all accounts we should win some of those games. But, even so, it will not mean our program has progressed, although some on here will use those wins to justify our current direction in year 5 of the Littrell era. I believe anyone that drinks that green Kool-Aid is setting themselves up for more disappointment.

I said something on Facebook that Seth hasn’t really accomplished that many feats (0 bowl wins, 0 championships etc) and I had people writing long paragraphs on why Seth is the savior of UNT and should be praised for the recruiting and attendance 🤣

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