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The stupidity of the wall seems pretty well covered here.   I just want to add one more thing.  The best way to stop illegal immigration is to quit hiring them! Those of you that built a house. Did you check to make sure everyone on the project was legal?  No that would have cost you time and money.  Are you hammering on vegetable growers to have certified “Patriot Picked” vegetables to buy at the store.  Of course not.  That would double the cost of your tomatoes and we can’t have that.  The list goes on.  Americans are such hypocrites about illegal immigration.  Just make it super easy for these hard workers to come legally to do the myriad of jobs that Americans will never do. Then, quit spending billions on a wall that is already in place in the majority of areas it is feasible and needed.  

 

 

 

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On 2/25/2020 at 11:53 AM, SCREAMING EAGLE-66 said:

----A wall away from populated or areas with roads is not worth the money .... I notice no one mentioned what to do with the rivers and streams that run into the Rio Grande in those isolated places or what to do with wild animals and cattle that depend on that water. 

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There is a huge difference in building a wall along a river with streams flowing into it compared with what can be built across the southern border of N.M. and Arizona where no large river exist.  Even on the personal level,  ranchers build fences much different near creeks than where there are none.. the city-types here just don't seem to "get it".... plus not considering 1000's of wild animals depend on that water to survive. 

Additional ... Didn't Trump PROMISE to make Mexico pay for it and on their side of the River..??? ( a campaign lie} 

It’s a wall not a dam. Water will flow as normal. 

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1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

It’s a wall not a dam. Water will flow as normal. 

The presence of a wall, even if it allows for water to flow through, means that water will not flow as normal.

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1 hour ago, forevereagle said:

The presence of a wall, even if it allows for water to flow through, means that water will not flow as normal.

There are man made cement canals and flow systems up and down the river, so the "normal" is subjective

 

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3 hours ago, forevereagle said:

The presence of a wall, even if it allows for water to flow through, means that water will not flow as normal.

The comment was made that this would negatively effect wildlife's availability to drinking water.  The wall will not negatively effect that.

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16 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

The comment was made that this would negatively effect wildlife's availability to drinking water.  The wall will not negatively effect that.

Sure, as long as there are no accumulations of large objects against said wall that block the water flow.

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On 3/4/2020 at 9:24 AM, forevereagle said:

Sure, as long as there are no accumulations of large objects against said wall that block the water flow.

Have you ever looked a a "rural" river and the "stuff" that floats down with it ... ??? Trees, limbs, trash, etc.  . Especially ones that are rather large when it rains.  -- Let me guess those who think it won't  are  very urban people that have never lived in small town or the country -- 

 

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On 3/3/2020 at 11:24 AM, UNTLifer said:

It’s a wall not a dam. Water will flow as normal. 

NO IT WON'T....... Go look at even small fences of farms and ranches and see what happens at  creeks .. much less rivers. . I have replaced fences at times that were "washed out".  --- and they were just strands of "barbed wire"... not those walls with narrow spaces in them. 

. You live in Midland  so maybe you remember the bridge with wide spaces under it  at Whitney St. and the draw that is now gone .... Stuff collected on it , blocked it up and houses were flooded... and then it was removed .. and that one was not running over rural land with limbs, dead trees,  etc. and also it had wide spaces under that bridge .... not what the border wall has. . That is why no bridge there now. 

Additional ... the Bridge with much large spaces than the "wall" at I street near Midland College was removed for the same reason  . under it was blocked up with debris causing flooding  ... It was later replaced with a large dip or low water crossing ... Whitney street bridge was not replaced or made into a low water crossing ... just gone. .

 

 

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On 3/2/2020 at 7:11 PM, HoustonEagle said:

The stupidity of the wall seems pretty well covered here.   I just want to add one more thing.  The best way to stop illegal immigration is to quit hiring them! Those of you that built a house. Did you check to make sure everyone on the project was legal?  No that would have cost you time and money.  Are you hammering on vegetable growers to have certified “Patriot Picked” vegetables to buy at the store.  Of course not.  That would double the cost of your tomatoes and we can’t have that.  The list goes on.  Americans are such hypocrites about illegal immigration.  Just make it super easy for these hard workers to come legally to do the myriad of jobs that Americans will never do. Then, quit spending billions on a wall that is already in place in the majority of areas it is feasible and needed.  

 

 

 

Exactly ... plus Nafta was creating jobs in Mexico which helped keep them there.... History show most immigrants leave their country for one of two reasons ... safety or lack of job opportunities. .. The central American ones fleeing for their lives would likely stay in Mexico if they could earn a living there... 

 I suppose people who have never been near the border don't realize some walls or fences have existed  for a long time and also don't realize how remote much of the Texas border is and  how impossible it is to build an effective one beside a river that is rather large at times  with 100's of stream flowing into it. 

. Besides were we not told by the President that he would make Mexico pay for it ... well they aren't. 

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