Now We Know Why Cal Wasn’t In The Top 25....

[FirefightnRick]

.nfm.

 

 

Rick

Edited September 16, 2019 by FirefightnRick

[NorthTexasWeLove]

Cal will not be in the Top25. They...suck. 

We blew both of our feet off with a 10 gauge in this game and tried to play keep up on stubs. 

[FirefightnRick]

Some great Cal alumns with connections got MeanGreenMatt, Chris and a bunch of us some pre-game field passes.  So I spent a good deal of time talking with many Cal alumns, ex players and fans down there and the one repeated comment several of them kept saying..”Wished we had yalls QB”.

 

Rick

 

 

Edited September 15, 2019 by FirefightnRick

[FremontBear]

1 hour ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Cal will not be in the Top25. They...suck. 

We blew both of our feet off with a 10 gauge in this game and tried to play keep up on stubs. 

No we don't suck. We have a top-shelf defense, but we also have a hapless offense. Our D will keep us in every game, and our O will struggle in every game too. We've beaten an FCS, a G5 and a P5 team, and every one of them had a better QB. If we had Mason Fine, we'd score 40-points against you, while our Defense would still give up just 17 points.

[CMJ]

1 hour ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Cal will not be in the Top25. They...suck. 

We blew both of our feet off with a 10 gauge in this game and tried to play keep up on stubs. 

I suspect they will be in the Top 25 if they win next week.  They may get there this week just by virtue of almost getting in last week and Washington looking good again.

[UNTLifer]

30 minutes ago, FremontBear said:

No we don't suck. We have a top-shelf defense, but we also have a hapless offense. Our D will keep us in every game, and our O will struggle in every game too. We've beaten an FCS, a G5 and a P5 team, and every one of them had a better QB. If we had Mason Fine, we'd score 40-points against you, while our Defense would still give up just 17 points.

True. You’ll have to ignore that poster. He deals in hyperbole, he’s clairvoyant, is ready to fire our coach that took over a dumpster fire of a program, etc...  Good luck to you all the remainder of the year and thanks for being a classy group of fans. 

[FirefightnRick]

1 hour ago, FremontBear said:

No we don't suck. We have a top-shelf defense, but we also have a hapless offense. Our D will keep us in every game, and our O will struggle in every game too. We've beaten an FCS, a G5 and a P5 team, and every one of them had a better QB. If we had Mason Fine, we'd score 40-points against you, while our Defense would still give up just 17 points.

No, your defense kept 7 off the board while our Offense kept 14 off for you.

USC and Utah will have their way with you, especially if there’s no freak lightening delay.  

 

Rick

[MeanGreenTexan]

3 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

No, your defense kept 7 off the board while our Offense kept 14 off for you.

USC and Utah will have their way with you, especially if there’s no freak lightening delay.  

 

Rick

His argument that if they had Mason Fine, they'd probably have whipped us by 20-plus points is valid and stands.   

Garbers only real threat was his feet (unless his WR was wide open and he had a clean pocket), but for every big run, he also took a sack or two.  Flip QB's and we get thrashed. 

I'm glad Reeder showed glimpses of ability to make adjustments in this game, but that doesnt mean the Cal defense isn't stout.

[greenminer]

I think they’re a top 40 team

lack of offensive identity/consistency will catch up to them. I think it’ll bite them for losses at least twice this year.

[FirefightnRick]

9 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

His argument that if they had Mason Fine, they'd probably have whipped us by 20-plus points is valid and stands.   

Garbers only real threat was his feet (unless his WR was wide open and he had a clean pocket), but for every big run, he also took a sack or two.  Flip QB's and we get thrashed. 

I'm glad Reeder showed glimpses of ability to make adjustments in this game, but that doesnt mean the Cal defense isn't stout.

And my argument is their defense is overrated.

 

Rick

[wardly]

1 hour ago, FirefightnRick said:

And my argument is their defense is overrated.

 

Rick

Like our offense?

 

[MeanGreenTexan]

1 hour ago, FirefightnRick said:

And my argument is their defense is overrated.

 

Rick

I suppose we’ll find out over the next few weeks.

[FremontBear]

15 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

No, your defense kept 7 off the board while our Offense kept 14 off for you.

USC and Utah will have their way with you, especially if there’s no freak lightening delay.  

 

Rick

Not sure what you base your argument on, but our defense is plenty good. It limited Mason Fine (a QB UNT front office touted as Heisman candidate) to 21-40 passing, 2TD and 1 INT, and that's probably the low for Mason this season. So, if that's being overrated, then show me another team on your schedule that isn't overrated.

 

USC and Utah will be very tough games for us, but SC comes to Berkeley, and we can build on our victory over them last year. Playing at Utah will be even tougher, and I'd give the Utes the edge. But, our defense will keep us in the game and I certainly don't pencil it as a loss.

[Calfan]

2 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

And my argument is their defense is overrated.

 

Rick

Not sure what your basis is for that statement. Because nearly every analytic says otherwise  

Not to be disrespectful, but we actually were playing a ton of backups on defense yesterday (just so they could get some experience - something cal almost never does)

And four of our outside linebackers were out. 

Dont worry though, we get this sentiment from every single team after we beat them. UC Davis fans were saying how bad we were and how UW would blow us out. 

This is just how cal plays. They win really really ugly. 

Edited September 15, 2019 by Calfan

[Udomann]

55 minutes ago, Calfan said:

 

This is just how cal plays. They win really really ugly. 

welcome to being a UNT fan?

[vpackrats]

22 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Cal will not be in the Top25. They...suck. 

We blew both of our feet off with a 10 gauge in this game and tried to play keep up on stubs. 

NorthTexasWeLove ... rebuttal comment from you to the AP putting them in at #23?  (So, yes, they are now actually in the top 25).

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

I don't think Cal sucks at all, but that was a winnable game. Credit Cal for punching us in the mouth 1st

[FirefightnRick]

23 minutes ago, vpackrats said:

NorthTexasWeLove ... rebuttal comment from you to the AP putting them in at #23?  (So, yes, they are now actually in the top 25).

Not last week they weren’t..and that’s the point.  You beat #14 and your left out says a lot.  And now that they are there we’ll see for how long.  

We should have easily put up 31 on them without our top WR all day and last year’s back ups.  Their D isn’t as good.  I’m just saying.

Rivk

[THOR]

their defense isn't that good, but our vaunted offense scored 17...makes sense

[Harry]

26 minutes ago, THOR said:

their defense isn't that good, but our vaunted offense scored 17...makes sense

That’s what I was thinking.  Also it sounded like they had a lot of injuries as well.

[FirefightnRick]

6 hours ago, wardly said:

Like our offense?

 

This offense is rated based on last year’s offense.  Last year’s offense no longer exists.

 

Rick

[NorthTexasWeLove]

2 hours ago, vpackrats said:

NorthTexasWeLove ... rebuttal comment from you to the AP putting them in at #23?  (So, yes, they are now actually in the top 25).

I meant, and though this sounds weak to say in hindsight, is that they will not end this year in the top 25. Not even close. 

I'll be sure to bring this thread back up after week 12. 😉 

Edited September 16, 2019 by NorthTexasWeLove

[NorthTexasWeLove]

1 hour ago, THOR said:

their defense isn't that good, but our vaunted offense scored 17...makes sense

I don't think our offense is vaunted. Not at all. Our offense is lackluster right now if anything. 

[meangreenlax]

6 hours ago, Calfan said:

Not to be disrespectful, but we actually were playing a ton of backups on defense yesterday (just so they could get some experience - something cal almost never does)

So y'all kept your backups in even when the game got close? Sounds like a great way to win games... Good luck with the rest of your season.

[UNT78]

Defense wins championships people!