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The Green New Deal is not radical, but reactionary to an endangered world

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FFR, I did a quick e-search of the document & failed to find the word 'infanticide' what are you talking about?

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5 hours ago, GTWT said:

FFR, I did a quick e-search of the document & failed to find the word 'infanticide' what are you talking about?

I was referring to the democrat party’s recent acceptance on it since Cuomo signed a bill making it legal in New York, along with other states proposing it as well.

44 Democrats Vote to Support Post Birth Abortion…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/02/25/stunning-44-democrats-vote-to-support-post-birth-abortion/

 

Virginia Democrat defends bill allowing abortion as mother gives birth.

 

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10 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

I was referring to the democrat party’s recent acceptance on it since Cuomo signed a bill making it legal in New York, along with other states proposing it as well.

44 Democrats Vote to Support Post Birth Abortion…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/02/25/stunning-44-democrats-vote-to-support-post-birth-abortion/

 

Virginia Democrat defends bill allowing abortion as mother gives birth.

 

Rick

So,  infanticide really wasn't in the Green New Deal?

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1 hour ago, GTWT said:

So,  infanticide really wasn't in the Green New Deal?

Correct, but ding dong Cortez has brought up the question on wether or not she thinks it’s ok to continue to have children or not.

 

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On 3/5/2019 at 7:56 AM, UNTLifer said:

The earth has gone through, I believe, three other cycles of heating and cooling. Why is this never considered and discussed?  Why are we so ready to throw the baby out with the bath water and not consider historical record?

Because it's not about climate. It's about the radicals seizing control of everything and leaving the unwashed masses to squabble for the scraps from the elite table. It done with fear mongering and race bating.

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12 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

Correct, but ding dong Cortez has brought up the question on wether or not she thinks it’s ok to continue to have children or not.

 

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So, if I understand correctly, you were so anxious to pin the label 'infanticide' on a nasty progressive, that you were willing to take the term completely out of context.

The article was about an idea - the Green New Deal - that can & is supported by a wide spectrum of intelligent people of different political affiliations and ideologies. You should real the draft and make an intelligent decision on what you agree with & what you don't.  To simply say you reject the entire idea makes you an ideologue, and I think you're better than that 

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25 minutes ago, GTWT said:

So, if I understand correctly, you were so anxious to pin the label 'infanticide' on a nasty progressive, that you were willing to take the term completely out of context.

The article was about an idea - the Green New Deal - that can & is supported by a wide spectrum of intelligent people of different political affiliations and ideologies. You should real the draft and make an intelligent decision on what you agree with & what you don't.  To simply say you reject the entire idea makes you an ideologue, and I think you're better than that 

How in the world do they propose to pay for this plan?  That is the question they all, Harris, Warren, AOC, Booker, etc..., avoid at all costs.

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7 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

How in the world do they propose to pay for this plan?  That is the question they all, Harris, Warren, AOC, Booker, etc..., avoid at all costs.

The only feasible way, would be to rob everyone down to at least the lowest level millionaires, and when that doesn't cover the bills, they would basically have to shutdown the military and close the criminal justice system. Of course the remaining balance would be paid for by simply printing money, or so says Ocasio.

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22 hours ago, GTWT said:

So, if I understand correctly, you were so anxious to pin the label 'infanticide' on a nasty progressive, that you were willing to take the term completely out of context.

The article was about an idea - the Green New Deal - that can & is supported by a wide spectrum of intelligent people of different political affiliations and ideologies. You should real the draft and make an intelligent decision on what you agree with & what you don't.  To simply say you reject the entire idea makes you an ideologue, and I think you're better than that 

No dude, you, a hard core leftist democrat...mentioned concern for children in your fantasy about Man Made Global Cooling/Man Made Global Warming/Man Made Climate Change/Climate Change.  I was simply being a smart ass at that notion that your concern for climate change is about children because your side has decided to go off the reservation in regards to concern for children...(unless they’re immigrating children of course) and have chosen to start legally murdering them after birth.  Thats all on your party...thus on you as well.    .

 

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24 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

How in the world do they propose to pay for this plan?  That is the question they all, Harris, Warren, AOC, Booker, etc..., avoid at all costs.

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Seems to go this way   ....

Conservative - Does not agree with a company - will stop using, but if you choose to that's on you

Liberal/Progressive - Does not agree with a company - with protest and try to run them out of business

Socialist-Dems - "Liberal/Progressive" AND will try to personally ruin any person and their family that chooses to purchase from that company - If they choose not to use you have no right to disagree. 

 

 

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Much of the proposal is comical in its absurdity.  It's poorly thought out, and in many ways, dangerously foolish.  And of course there is the "how does it get paid for" question, that nobody wants to answer. 

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1 hour ago, LongJim said:

Much of the proposal is comical in its absurdity.  It's poorly thought out, and in many ways, dangerously foolish.  And of course there is the "how does it get paid for" question, that nobody wants to answer. 

Simple answer, it can't be paid for.

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The star of the show, AOC, more aptly named Alexandria Occluded-Cortex.

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On 3/8/2019 at 2:48 PM, EagleMBA said:

 

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The star of the show, AOC, more aptly named Alexandria Occluded-Cortex.

And the Democratic Party is dumb enough to let her be the mouthpiece of the party along with basically ignoring Omar, the D-Gov of Virginia, his Attorney General and the third in line’s racism and sexism. Funny how they march, protest, accost, yell, scream, etc... when it is someone like Kavanaugh from the Right but sweep this away all with the benefit of the mainstream media when it is one of their own. 

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On 3/7/2019 at 11:23 AM, UNTLifer said:

How in the world do they propose to pay for this plan?  That is the question they all, Harris, Warren, AOC, Booker, etc..., avoid at all costs.

The same way the GOP paid for the tax cuts that aren't helping anyone but billionaires. 

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On 3/5/2019 at 7:56 AM, UNTLifer said:

The earth has gone through, I believe, three other cycles of heating and cooling. Why is this never considered and discussed?  Why are we so ready to throw the baby out with the bath water and not consider historical record?

Here's some historical context. Going back quite some time. My apologies if you believe the earth is 3500 years old.

ghg-concentrations-download1-2016.png

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11 minutes ago, meangreenlax said:

Here's some historical context. Going back quite some time. My apologies if you believe the earth is 3500 years old.

ghg-concentrations-download1-2016.png

That is very interesting data, and the spike correlates roughly to my lifespan. Do you suppose I am too flatulent? 🙂

Seriously, it is obvious that something has changed dramatically. I am not a scientist, but my first thought was that to have that much impact there must be multiple causes and factors at play here. Factors that are natural and factors that are man-made. I don't pretend to profess what they all are, but I can think of a few to check out for possible inclusion into the equation. Examples might be geologic causes, population growth, destruction of forests and other natural sources of oxygen and users of CO2, animal populations (not just cows fart; take a horse-and-buggy ride), etc.

I try to be conscious of my own actions but this problem is a global problem. I believe we should do our best and let the rest of the world regulate and police themselves. There is no sense in economically destroying this country when we are such a minor part of the problem. Just my opinion.

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1 hour ago, meangreenlax said:

The same way the GOP paid for the tax cuts that aren't helping anyone but billionaires. 

So you haven’t seen a change in your paycheck or in your tax return?

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2 hours ago, EagleMBA said:

There is no sense in economically destroying this country when we are such a minor part of the problem. Just my opinion.

We're the second worst source of emissions as a nation, and one of the worst per capita (Canada and Saudi Arabia are right there with us). Meaning our actions as Americans are having an outsized impact on the problem.

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Additionally, the US is responsible for the majority of emissions since 1791. 

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1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

So you haven’t seen a change in your paycheck or in your tax return?

About $30-40 bucks per paycheck. Great. But my rent went up $100/month and I'm making $500/month student loan payments. Don't piss on my head and tell me its raining. 

"They" said the tax cuts would allow companies to invest in facilities and workers. Well, in reality, they went to stock buybacks. We blew a hole in the deficit (remember when you all cared about that? lol) to inflate the balance sheets of shareholders. I'm for government policy that leads to tangible benefits for the average American (Medicare for All, higher education reform, etc). This is all bullshit crony capitalism.

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2 hours ago, meangreenlax said:

About $30-40 bucks per paycheck. Great. But my rent went up $100/month and I'm making $500/month student loan payments. Don't piss on my head and tell me its raining. 

"They" said the tax cuts would allow companies to invest in facilities and workers. Well, in reality, they went to stock buybacks. We blew a hole in the deficit (remember when you all cared about that? lol) to inflate the balance sheets of shareholders. I'm for government policy that leads to tangible benefits for the average American (Medicare for All, higher education reform, etc). This is all bullshit crony capitalism.

I can tell you the company I work for was able to keep and add jobs in the US that had been slated for Mexico. In addition, they have made capital investments ahead of schedule.

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When I was her age we were all going to freeze to death....every generation I guess want to believe some BS.

#cowfarts

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