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FAU is legit. Their talent is way up there and Lane Kiffin is the perfect coach for them. They are probably going to be tested twice all season. 

I expect that if they don't get mudholed at OU, they could very easily be an 11 win team going into the conference championship game again. If that occurs, they'll be the non-power league team in a BCS Bowl, probably ranked in the top 10 or so. 

That state of Florida produces high school talent like Texas used to before it went full 7-on-7 for their HS football. How at least one of Florida, FSU, or Miami aren't in the national championship hunt every year is just a mystery to me. Hell, UCF and USF can get somewhat included in this also. And I don't think FAU or FIU are too far behind them.

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27 minutes ago, Ben Gooding said:

FAU is not getting mudholed at OU. I would not be surprised at all to see FAU compete in that game and maybe even win it. 

No doubt. Kiffen is the real deal. They still have the running back that’s should get H-consideration. They size up with the big guys. FAU is for real

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4 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

FAU is legit. Their talent is way up there and Lane Kiffin is the perfect coach for them. They are probably going to be tested twice all season. 

I expect that if they don't get mudholed at OU, they could very easily be an 11 win team going into the conference championship game again. If that occurs, they'll be the non-power league team in a BCS Bowl, probably ranked in the top 10 or so. 

That state of Florida produces high school talent like Texas used to before it went full 7-on-7 for their HS football. How at least one of Florida, FSU, or Miami aren't in the national championship hunt every year is just a mystery to me. Hell, UCF and USF can get somewhat included in this also. And I don't think FAU or FIU are too far behind them.

I tend to agree with this. I think it showed in our games against FAU and Troy. Look at similar size disparities between Big 12 Texas teams and the SEC. 

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It is a reference to all air raid offense which is a system is designed out of a shotgun formation with four wide receivers and one running back. The formations are a variation of the run and shoot offense where the guards and tackles of the offensive line and the 4 defensive linemen really do not matter because we are just going to play "7 on 7".  It puts an emphasis on getting the ball out instead of imposing your will on the other team. 

When you look at the big 12 you see "7 on 7" ball.  "7 on 7" puts a ton of yards and points on the scoreboard and is well suited for tv (looks like a video game).   While it is fun to watch this on "skilled positions" only the receivers and some well rounded back really translate to Sunday.  If you look at the big number guys in college, few make it in the NFL.   See the list below FBS passing leaders  Out of 32 there are 4-5 that are not on a "7 on 7" team and Philip Rivers, Kevin Kolb, Derek Carr, and Jared Goff are really the only ones who have had some success in the NFL. 

(For my HSO on the QB's you will see Baker Mayfield, Mason Rudolph, Luke Falk, and Lamar Jackson get their collective ass handed to them and all but one will be out of the league after their rookie contract)

1 Case Keenum [[Houston Cougars

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19,217
2 Timmy Chang Hawaii (20002004) 17,072
3 Landry Jones Oklahoma (20092012) 16,646
4 Graham Harrell Texas Tech (20052008) 15,793
5 Ty Detmer BYU (19881991) 15,031
6 Kellen Moore Boise State (20082011) 14,667
7 Baker Mayfield Texas Tech (2013), Oklahoma (20152017) 14,607
8 Luke Falk Washington State (20142017) 14,481
9 Colt Brennan Hawaii (20052007) 14,193
10 Rakeem Cato Marshall (20112014) 14,079
11 Mason Rudolph Oklahoma State (20142017) 13,618
12 Sean Mannion Oregon State (20112014) 13,600
13 Philip Rivers NC State (20002003) 13,484
14 Corey Robinson Troy (20102013) 13,477
15 Colt McCoy Texas (20062009) 13,253
16 Aaron Murray Georgia (20102013) 13,166
17 Kevin Kolb Houston (20032006) 12,964
18 Dan LeFevour Central Michigan (20062009) 12,905
19 Cooper Rush Central Michigan (20132016) 12,884
20 Brandon Doughty Western Kentucky (20112015) 12,855
21 Derek Carr Fresno State (20092013) 12,843
22 Tim Rattay Louisiana Tech (19971999) 12,746
23 Ryan Lindley San Diego State (20082011) 12,690
24 Luke McCown Louisiana Tech (20002003) 12,666
25 Chris Redman Louisville (19961999) 12,541
26 Chase Daniel Missouri (20052008) 12,515
27 Trevor Vittatoe UTEP (20072010) 12,439
28 Kliff Kingsbury Texas Tech (19992002) 12,429
29 Matt Barkley USC (20092012) 12,327
30 Jared Goff California (20132015) 12,195
31 Zach Terrell Western Michigan (20132016) 12,100
32 Zac Dysert Miami (Ohio) (20092012) 12,016

 

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If you want to read more here is an article about UNT's own Todd Dodge

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/highschool/article/Texas-high-school-football-turns-to-the-spread-6700541.php

In 1980, playing for Port Arthur Jefferson, Dodge achieved the improbable feat of throwing for more than 3,000 yards in a season, averaging an unheard-of 200 yards per game. Coming from the state that brought you the ground-bound wishbone and veer offenses, it had to be just a passing fad - pun intended - didn't it?

These days, 3,000 yards is chicken feed. Almost 50 players statewide surpassed that mark in 2014, and hundreds have done so since Dodge's day. His own son Riley, in fact, twice surpassed the old record while playing for his father at Southlake Carroll in 2006-07.

What was once an anomaly has become the rule of the road in Texas high school football, as fans will see this weekend at the University Interscholastic League title games at NRG Stadium.

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Of 20 teams playing over three days, at least 15 run some variation of the spread offense - the generic term for any formation that lines up with the quarterback in shotgun formation, be it with one back, two, or occasionally, none.

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The convo has shifted from HS to college products, but look at all the offensive linemen drafted from spread and air raid offenses

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=OL&type=position

I guess while you're at it look at the defensive linemen as well

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=DL&type=position

Actually I've lost track of what we're complaining about and how things were better in our respective day so I'm mentally checking out

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From a little blurb I found from 2016 

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A cleveland.com review of opening week rosters found Florida leads with the way with 193 players, based on the place of birth of each player. Second is California with 187, followed by Texas (160), Georgia (97), Ohio (80), Pennsylvania (66) and Louisiana (63).

 

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2 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I think what people are saying is that when you grow up playing spread-style football in Texas, then play the same kind of football if you attend a university in Texas/Oklahoma, it is tough to transition to an NFL Pro-Style offense.

Exactly--its not that hard to see how its hurt the Texas colleges, in general, when playing teams with bigger and better athletes on defense. The kids aren't taught to be physical anymore, especially on defense.

 

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17 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

Exactly--its not that hard to see how its hurt the Texas colleges, in general, when playing teams with bigger and better athletes on defense. The kids aren't taught to be physical anymore, especially on defense.

 

100% not true

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