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26 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Franschilla, Cross, Harper, and Lutz in that order. Any of those four could easily recruit to UNT and turn this around quickly. 

Fraschilla has been out of coaching a looong time now.  There would be nothing certain with him now.

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51 minutes ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

Fraschilla has been out of coaching a looong time now.  There would be nothing certain with him now.

He is still a student of the game and hasn't lost his X's and O's. He lives locally, is well know, and respected. I believe he would be able to recruit the DFW area well. We need someone like they if we are going to compete with SMU  for local talent. Everyone on my list obviously has pros and cons but I think he could hit the DFW area hard and actually developed his guys which Benford wasn't able to do. This would also depend on his assistants. 

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1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

What tells you Lutz could turn it around?

So with this one it could go really well or reall bad fast. We took Benford who was a long time assistant and he ran a great team into the ground. I know there is concern about bringing an assistant in, but I remember many people supporting the Benford hire (even though he may not have been their first choice). Lutz brings what Benford had. Lots of experience from a well know basketball school. He can recruit and he is relatively young. Lutz can definetly recruit this area. He had two top 35 recruiting classes at SMU. His time at SFA and SMU show he can recruit texas, locally, and well. Maybe he ends up being Benford 2.0 or maybe he doesn't make the same mistakes Benford made and turns this thing around. In short he has all the positives people saw in Benford but I don't believe he would make the same micromanaging mistakes.

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19 minutes ago, Andrew said:

He is still a student of the game and hasn't lost his X's and O's. He lives locally, is well know, and respected. I believe he would be able to recruit the DFW area well. We need someone like they if we are going to compete with SMU  for local talent. Everyone on my list obviously has pros and cons but I think he could hit the DFW area hard and actually developed his guys which Benford wasn't able to do. This would also depend on his assistants. 

I don't really disagree with any of that.  But how many coaches do you know who have been out of coaching for 15 years, come back to take on a rebuilding process, and had success?  And it's not like he had a long, illustrious head coaching career before that.  I'm sure a lot of players would be very interested in playing for him, but you take on a certain risk by taking on the unknown.

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2 hours ago, Andrew said:

So with this one it could go really well or reall bad fast. We took Benford who was a long time assistant and he ran a great team into the ground. I know there is concern about bringing an assistant in, but I remember many people supporting the Benford hire (even though he may not have been their first choice). Lutz brings what Benford had. Lots of experience from a well know basketball school. He can recruit and he is relatively young. Lutz can definetly recruit this area. He had two top 35 recruiting classes at SMU. His time at SFA and SMU show he can recruit texas, locally, and well. Maybe he ends up being Benford 2.0 or maybe he doesn't make the same mistakes Benford made and turns this thing around. In short he has all the positives people saw in Benford but I don't believe he would make the same micromanaging mistakes.

Honestly, Lutz could be a home run hire, but the Benford experiment has me gun shy over hiring another assistant that is a great recruiter that has never led a program.  I know that isn't fair to Lutz, but Benford, who I thought would be a good hire, has ruined hiring from that direction for me.

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3 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Honestly, Lutz could be a home run hire, but the Benford experiment has me gun shy over hiring another assistant that is a great recruiter that has never led a program.  I know that isn't fair to Lutz, but Benford, who I thought would be a good hire, has ruined hiring from that direction for me.

Completely agree. 

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What about Mark Slessinger at New Orleans? He just won a regular season title and has his squad in the Southland title game. It must be terribly difficult to recruit there with LSU and Tulane, and he won a conference title at a program that almost dropped down to D-III before school administrators came to their senses.

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18 minutes ago, DWayne47 said:

What about Mark Slessinger at New Orleans? He just won a regular season title and has his squad in the Southland title game. It must be terribly difficult to recruit there with LSU and Tulane, and he won a conference title at a program that almost dropped down to D-III before school administrators came to their senses.

If the 22 more qualified applicants turn down the job, then for sure Wren should take a look at him. 

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If the 22 more qualified applicants turn down the job, then for sure Wren should take a look at him. 

Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
New Orleans (Independent) (2011–2013)
2011–12 New Orleans 17–15      
2012–13 New Orleans 8–18      
New Orleans (Southland) (2013–present)
2013–14 New Orleans 11–15 8–10 8th  
2014–15 New Orleans 11–18 6–12 T–10th  
2015–16 New Orleans 10–20 6–12 T–9th  
2016–17 New Orleans 15–9 10–3    
New Orleans: 72–95 (.431) 30–37 (.448)  
Total: 72–95 (.431)

 

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4 minutes ago, DWayne47 said:

Wow, that looks very similar to the first five years of J. Jones tenure at UNT.

2001-02 15-14 8-7 4th (West)  
2002-03 7-21 2-13 6th (West)  
2003-04 13-15 8-7 3rd (West)  
2004-05 14-14 6-9 T4 (West)  
2005-06 14-14 6-9 T4 (West)
2006-07 23-11 10-8 3rd (West)
96–97 Kentucky Wesleyan 21–8 14–6 5th  
1997–98 Kentucky Wesleyan 30–3 17–2 1st NCAA Division II runner-up
1998–99 Kentucky Wesleyan 35–2 20–2 1st NCAA Division II Champion
1999–00 Kentucky Wesleyan 31–3 18–2 1st NCAA Division II runner-up
2000–01 Kentucky Wesleyan 30–3 17–3 2nd NCAA Division II Champion
2001–02 Kentucky Wesleyan 31–3 19–1 1st NCAA Division II runner-up
2002–03 Kentucky Wesleyan 26–3* 18–2* 1st* NCAA Division II runner-up*
2003–04 Kentucky Wesleyan 22–8* 14–6* 3rd* NCAA Division II First Round*
2004–05 Kentucky Wesleyan 15–12 9–11 6th  
Kentucky Wesleyan: 242–45* (.840) 146–35* (.807)  
Oklahoma City Stars (Sooner Athletic Conference) (2005–2008)
2005–06 Oklahoma City 29–8 16–2 1st NAIA runner-up
2006–07 Oklahoma City 35–2 17–1 1st NAIA Champions
2007–08 Oklahoma City 31–7 18–4 1st NAIA Champions
Oklahoma City: 95–17 (.848) 51–7 (.879)  
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers (Sun Belt Conference) (2012–2014)
2011–12 Western Kentucky 11–8[9] 6–7[9] 3rd (East)[10] NCAA 2nd Round[11]
2012–13 Western Kentucky 20–16 10–10 4th (East)[12] NCAA 2nd Round[13]
2013–14 Western Kentucky 21–11 12–6 2nd  
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers (Conference USA) (2014–present)
2014–15 Western Kentucky 20–12 12–6 T–4th  
2015–16 Western Kentucky 18–16 8–10 8th  
Western Kentucky: 90–63 (.588) 48–39 (.552)  
Jacksonville State Gamecocks (Ohio Valley Conference) (2016–present)
2016–17 Jacksonville State 20–14 9–7 3rd (East) NCAA Tournament

Ya.... Your guy isn't gonna get an interview..... 

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7 minutes ago, DWayne47 said:

Wow, that looks very similar to the first five years of J. Jones tenure at UNT.

2001-02 15-14 8-7 4th (West)  
2002-03 7-21 2-13 6th (West)  
2003-04 13-15 8-7 3rd (West)  
2004-05 14-14 6-9 T4 (West)  
2005-06 14-14 6-9 T4 (West)
2006-07 23-11 10-8 3rd (West)

which we all agree we can do better than right?

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