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Trilli won a total of 20 games in his four years at North Texas for a sub .200 winning percentage. Particularly noteworthy was the 2000 campaign when we won a total of 7 games in football and basketball combined.

Benford is the next John Wooden in comparison with Trilli.

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55 minutes ago, letsgiveacheer said:

Trilli won a total of 20 games in his four years at North Texas for a sub .200 winning percentage. Particularly noteworthy was the 2000 campaign when we won a total of 7 games in football and basketball combined.

Benford is the next John Wooden in comparison with Trilli.

Let's not go crazy here.

Trilli did horrible, but Benford didn't have to face the same kind of schedule so much like tootsie pops, the world will never know.

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Had season tickets during the Trilli years and most games you just stopped paying attention early in the second half. Jankovich years weren't anything to write home about either. 

This is so bad because we have more going for us now. Or at least we should. You think it's hard to get up for opponents now, the early Big West days sucked. Who gives a hoot about Irvine or Fullerton. But some of my favorite players are from those years. 

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36 minutes ago, Army of Dad said:

Let's not go crazy here.

Trilli did horrible, but Benford didn't have to face the same kind of schedule so much like tootsie pops, the world will never know.

Right, if Benford played a Trilli schedule, does he even get to 4 wins this year? I doubt it.

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I started school in Denton in 1999.  I don't remember being so emotionally emotionally bummed like today, but I was still getting acclimated to the rigors of the COM and Chris Davis was just so freaking good.  I do recall lousy crowds.

I traveled to one of the Belt bball tournaments and remember being in awe about the size of the WKU crowds.  Was the host site rotating at that point? I know the year I went it was in NO.

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2 hours ago, meanrob said:

I used to play pickup ball at UCI while stationed at El Toro so I was very familiar with the Anteaters. But the crowds and atmosphere when the Cali teams came to town wasn't the greatest. Then again, you could say nothing has changed. 

Both of those school were gawdawful when UNT was in the Big West.  The conference has steadily slid downhill overall, but somehow fan interest has increased.  They made it a California only league (until Hawaii joined for non-football sports).  SoCal in particular seems to really enjoy that.  Putting future Sun Belt teams from Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana in a desperate attempt to keep sponsoring football was a stupid move and made me look to see if Karl Benson had been commissioner back then. 

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1 hour ago, oldguystudent said:

Both of those school were gawdawful when UNT was in the Big West.  The conference has steadily slid downhill overall, but somehow fan interest has increased.  They made it a California only league (until Hawaii joined for non-football sports).  SoCal in particular seems to really enjoy that.  Putting future Sun Belt teams from Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana in a desperate attempt to keep sponsoring football was a stupid move and made me look to see if Karl Benson had been commissioner back then. 

He was busy imploding the WAC. 

Both LBSU and UCI have fielded some good teams but no one seems to keep the mojo going. I'm still surprised the Gauchos can't get it going. 

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41 minutes ago, meanrob said:

He was busy imploding the WAC. 

Both LBSU and UCI have fielded some good teams but no one seems to keep the mojo going. I'm still surprised the Gauchos can't get it going. 

Gauchos had a hell of a good team in the 80s and 90s.  Their head coach was this hippie dude that lived on a houseboat.  They've made the tourney a couple times since, but just haven't been able to sustain.  

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Here's a snapshot on how previous coaches have done at North Texas.

Rk Coach From To Yrs G W L W-L% CREG CTRN NCAA FF NC
1 Johnny Jones 2002 2012 11 336 190 146 .565 1 2 2 0 0
2 Bill Blakeley 1976 1983 8 219 134 85 .612 0 0 0 0 0
3 Jimmy Gales 1987 1993 7 202 84 118 .416 2 1 1 0 0
4 Tony Benford 2013 2017 5 148 60 88 .405 0 0 0 0 0
5 Dan Spika 1966 1970 5 127 58 69 .457 0 0 0 0 0
6 Tim Jankovich 1994 1997 4 110 53 57 .482 0 0 0 0 0
7 Gene Robbins 1972 1975 4 103 36 67 .350 0 0 0 0 0
8 Charles Johnson 1960 1965 6 150 36 114 .240 0 0 0 0 0
9 James St. Clair 1922 1923 2 26 24 2 .923 0 0      
10 Tommy Newman 1984 1986 3 84 24 60 .286 0 0 0 0 0
11 Vic Trilli 1998 2001 4 107 20 87 .187 0 0 0 0 0
12 Harry Miller 1971 1971 1 25 10 15 .400 0 0 0 0 0
13 Pete Shands 1958 1959 2 45 9 36 .200 0 0 0 0 0

Maybe someone can clarify but it appears Trill was allowed to coach out his entire 4th season.

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23 hours ago, UNTFan23 said:

Here's a snapshot on how previous coaches have done at North Texas.

Rk Coach From To Yrs G W L W-L% CREG CTRN NCAA FF NC
1 Johnny Jones 2002 2012 11 336 190 146 .565 1 2 2 0 0
2 Bill Blakeley 1976 1983 8 219 134 85 .612 0 0 0 0 0
3 Jimmy Gales 1987 1993 7 202 84 118 .416 2 1 1 0 0
4 Tony Benford 2013 2017 5 148 60 88 .405 0 0 0 0 0
5 Dan Spika 1966 1970 5 127 58 69 .457 0 0 0 0 0
6 Tim Jankovich 1994 1997 4 110 53 57 .482 0 0 0 0 0
7 Gene Robbins 1972 1975 4 103 36 67 .350 0 0 0 0 0
8 Charles Johnson 1960 1965 6 150 36 114 .240 0 0 0 0 0
9 James St. Clair 1922 1923 2 26 24 2 .923 0 0      
10 Tommy Newman 1984 1986 3 84 24 60 .286 0 0 0 0 0
11 Vic Trilli 1998 2001 4 107 20 87 .187 0 0 0 0 0
12 Harry Miller 1971 1971 1 25 10 15 .400 0 0 0 0 0
13 Pete Shands 1958 1959 2 45 9 36 .200 0 0 0 0 0

Maybe someone can clarify but it appears Trill was allowed to coach out his entire 4th season.

And, I have watched, in person at the Pit and/or Super Pit, games coached by 10 of the 13 coaches listed.  Yikes, that is a lot of coaches and a lot of games.  Guessing I will be on Coach 11  of 14 next season.

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The 84-85 team under Tommy Newman (5-23) & the 92-93 team under Jimmy Gales (5-21) are a tie for me (at least in the Super Pit era). This year's team has considerably more talent than either of those, so what we are watching isn't historic in those terms.

I do remember several fans wearing paper grocery bags with eye holes in it for the remaining few games with Gales in '93 as a way to signal their displeasure.  That was the trend back then.  Now, people just don't go & do something else.  Oh, the memories. Lol

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I actually think Trilli was a much better coach than Benford.  He actually was a successful juco hc and seemed to know what was going on at court side.  The impossible schedule that NT played Trilli first two years, was way above Trilli coaching and team talent level.   The enormous losses quickly killed his program and Trilli went from a pretty good recruiter to a coach that almost literally couldn't sign anyone.  

So even though I think Trilli was the much better coach  His last team was worse than anything Benford has fielded.   The best player was recruited to play QB for NT.   Note, Chris Davis was injured and did not play that year.   Trilli's last season despite moving to the Belt, a conference way below the Big West caliber, and a much easier oc schedule was 4-24.   If NT has had a worst MBB team, it must have been in the peach basket days.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

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