letsgiveacheer

After being fired at North Texas, Rod Rust was head coach for one of the NFL teams, but I can't remember which one. I don't think he lasted long, however.

Webber International University must be to the bass world what North Texas is to football.

I believe so. In 1972 we had a one win season, but that is when schools only played 10 or 11 games a season.

Win or loose, I am always sorry to see the season end. Things will get better eventually. Thanks to the seniors and the entire team.

Is there a chat room for today's game?

Whew!! That heavens for BB season! Congratulations.

I was also going to write about the letter when received, but decided not to be a curmudgeon about this. As someone who spends a great deal of time raising money, I have to say, it is the worst "ask" I have ever received. It is even full of questionable grammar. The letter is based on a theme of "collaborations" for the stadium, research, and a program to eliminate barriers to higher education. "The spirit of collaboration is building around UNT's proposed new stadium and entertainment venue, which is fostering new partnerships among university constituencies. ....The new stadium will not only host football games; it is envisioned as an important new venue for performing and visual arts." So fellow constituents, lets collaborate to make the new Fouts Field II Stadium and Entertainment Venue a reality. PS I'll send some money anyway.

Amen...it is really amazing mow people buy into this nonsensical "mid-major" categorization. No one has ever identified a "low-major" school which surely must exist if there is a mid-major category. When the "high-major" schools do to basketball what the BCS has done to football, don't come crying! What rubbish.

I just returned to the hotel after watching the MTSU game. First, it was very cold!! There were not too many fans there from either side. From NT, I would guess about 25 and most of them left during the 3rd quarter. The MTSU fans, as usual, were very cordial. I am staying at the Doubletree Hotel here and all the employees, housekeepers, etc are in MTSU t-shirts! Our tent was in a new location and it took me quite some time to find it. Plenty of beer on hand which is always welcome. You know the outcome of the game already. I will leave the analysis to those more knowledgeable than me, but I feel really bad for our young men to have such a season. All I can say after watching the game is that I am reminded of Rod Rust and his 0-11 season in 1972. I hope something changes soon.

Living in North Carolina, this game is the closest for me so I will be there, ready to see our record remain intact. (We can always hope!)

Thank you for remembering! Jim Schaeffer aka letsgiveacheer, USAF, Retired 1975-95 (proudly commissioned from Det 835, NTSU!) Seymour Johnson AFB Goldsboro, NC Balikesir, Turkey NORAD HQ Colorado Springs Keesler AFB, Biloxi Cairo, Egypt RAF Alconbury, UK Kelly AFB, San Antonio Wright-Patterson AFB, OH Warner Robins AFB, GA Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina Zagreb, Croatia Naples, Italy

I was looking for my lime green leisure suit and gold chain the other day. Not a natural fiber in the lot! Harvey Wallbangers.!! I had not thought about them for years, but if you are really going to do this authentically, you will need to drive to Lake Dallas to buy your Galliano. Denton County was dry. The upside was that in the early seventies, 18 was the legal drinking age.

There was a long thread on this article a few months ago, but the men's gym was never commonly called the snake pit...it was just "the pit".

I must be getting old, but to me, this is more disappointing than a potential 0-12 season record. These young men are given the opportunity for a free education and then toss it away. I suspect it goes on in almost every D1 school except perhaps for the service academies but it does not make it right.

In the old days, it was common for the marching band director to also direct the best concert band and so it was at North Texas. If you wanted to play in the NT Concert Band you had to march! In fact, the concert band did not even begin until the second semester. My then fellow marching band members are all over the place, playing professionally, teaching at universities, etc. And we all had a good time! The marching band was much smaller then as well, about 120. What this meant is that you had most of the best undergraduate wind players in the marching band. It also was not required for music ed majors then. So basically, the marching band was not required of anyone unless you wanted to play in the top concert band. As an aside, I really wanted to return to Denton this week to see the game and to visit with Mrs McAdow, but my opera company has a production this week. Mrs McAdow still lives by herself on Hickory and is doing well!

I suspect it is fairly common for large universities to have hotels on campus. Here in the Triangle, UNC and Duke have hotels and they are both quite elegant with fine restaurants, etc. Duke has the "Washington Duke" and UNC's is called the "Carolina Inn". Speaking of turnarounds with new coaches, both schools are doing better. Even Duke beat UVA, the first time in many years, they beat a fellow ACC school.

I was thinking that the A-11 offense would work for us! High schools across the country are having success with this.

As someone who attended everyone of those home games, I can recall what a dismal season we had. The irony was that after Rod Rust was fired, he later (very briefly) became a NFL head coach! Probably the only one in our history. As these things go, it is hard to make any sort of anecdotal comparisons except we have been there before. My favorite cheer from 1972: Give em hell, Rod Rust, give em hell... Give em hell, Rod Rust, give em hell... Give em hell, Rod Rust, give em hell... Ah hell, give em Rod Rust... I wonder how the Wheat Shockers are doing this season?

I was at both of these games. The "first game" in Texas Stadium was certainly billed as such but, actually, I understand it was not. Two historically black college teams played there on the previous Thursday. I recall one of them being Texas Southern, but this may not be correct. As they were not 'major" college, it didn't count! Playing Louisville (Corso was coach then) in that huge stadium in front of 12,000 (probably closer to 8,000) fans was about as exciting as watching roller derby without the women. The game with SMU was a better, but still that crowd was rather small. I recall about 26,000 as the announced attendance. It was very exciting and disappointing to lose by such a small margin. Coming from Virginia as a freshman in 1971, I remember picking up the football schedule and seeing all home games being played at Texas Stadium. I knew nothing about Texas Stadium and assumed that it was on the campus in Denton. I found Fouts, but no Texas stadium. After walking all over the campus looking for Texas Stadium, I finally asked someone where it was and they looked at me like I came in from the moon! I then learned that our "home" stadium was about 40 miles away. As Texas Stadium was not ready for our opening game against BYU, we played our first "home" game at the Cotton Bowl. Every Mormon in Texas was at the game and the visiting fans outnumbered the home fans by a huge majority. By then, I learned that things were not quite normal with North Texas football and I am happy to see that nothing has changed. This is what makes it so enduring to me. I have no intention of going away as I can wait to see what happens next!

[quote name='Keith7' date='Sep 23 2008, 01:59 PM' post='374340 Known then as the Snake Pit, the Ken Bahnsen Center was the home of North Texas basketball from 1950-73 and was the site of numerous milestones and remarkable moments. Those 23 seasons saw four Gulf Coast Conference championships and some of the nation’s premier athletes in the talent-laden Missouri Valley Conference. One of the game’s greatest players, Oscar Robertson, scored his career-high of 62 points for Cincinnati in the Snake Pit on Feb. 22, 1960, which still ranks 13th in NCAA history in single-game scoring.

This looks nice!! I remember the lime green Model A at its premiere in 1974 and am glad to see it is still in use. One incorrect statement in that Wikepedia article is the oft repeated tale of North Texas being the first college in the south to integrate. A small school in Virginia, Eastern Mennonite, integrated in 1948. I suspect there were others as well. In fact, I think UTEP (Texas Western) was integrated before us.

I have been here as letsgiveacheer from the start. What a great way for those of us outside the Denton area to keep in touch. I do not post very often but can think of no better 200th (on this board) post than to say thanks to Harry for setting this up and maintaining it all these years. What happened to all these guys...Rowlett Eagle, RebUT, and my personal favorite from the basketball board Whitman Mayo? He was particularly brutal on Trilly. They come and go but a loyal core is still here. North Texas is very special to me. I received a full scholarship and any little success that I have enjoyed as an adult is due in no small part to our university. Hope to see some of you in Denton this year and also at the Middle Tennessee game. I feel like we are old friends!

OSU has a good school of music, not outstanding. In Ohio, it is U of Cincinnati who has the outstanding college of music. A long time ago, two institutions merged; the College of Music and The Conservatory of Music which is now called CCM. University of Cincinnati absorbed CCM many years ago. Is there any other college football board in the country that discusses music programs as much as ours?

I have a LP in green vinyl, no less, with the original fight song, alma mater, and other McAdow classics. I would love to convert this to MP3 and share. If anyone is technically more astute than I and has the right equipment to do this, please contact me at my office email: js@longleafopera(nospam).org

"I am surprised our Fight Song and School Song haven't changed. I bet someone tried though" As I have written before, the fight song was changed to the dumbed down arrangement we now use. This was done in 1976 after Maurice McAdow retired. I thought it would be high time to return to the original version, especially as former band members had a reunion at last year's homecoming towards the purpose of endowing a scholarship in memory of Mr. McAdow. I wrote to the current marching band director about this but did not receive the courtesy of a reply.