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  1. I think there is a bit of confusion on the public funds. The stadium will reside in a TIF zone that was set up in the late 80s. There will not be one additional penny in tax put on the shoulders of Waco citizens, businesses, or visitors. In short, the TIF takes property taxes from new projects developed within it's borders and puts them into a fund to help gentrify and encourage future development. There is no secret that downtown Waco, until the last 10 years or so, was absolute hell. The city had to provide services for the area but low property values (which, in turn, meant low tax revenue) basically meant the area was a cash flow loss to the City on an annual basis. For the first 15 years, the TIF in Waco saw little activity. In the past decade that has changed and there has been increased development downtown which has, in turn, funded the TIF which, in turn, gives more out for development. The TIF has already given out multi-millions to many developers for other projects in an attempt to build up the area. And, slowly, it is working. However, there is no doubt that the project still needs a major catalyst to really push major development in the area. This TIF money going to Baylor isn't going to build the brick and mortar but rather, will help put in the infrastructure (roads, sewer, electric, and riverwalk) necessary for the city to really capitalize on it.
  2. I think you would solve the problem quickly to simply say you need to be at least 7-5. A quick glance at the standings reveals 16 or so teams that are bowl eligible with only 6 wins. If 50% of those lose their remaining game, that's at least 8 teams that will go to a bowl game with a 6 win record. Also, there are about a half dozen teams that currently have 5 wins that will likely get their 6th this weekend to make them eligible. In other words, about 12-16 teams will go to bowls this year with 6 wins. That's 6-8 bowl games that, frankly, need to be cut.
  3. I simply don't think 5-7 teams will make it in. As mentioned, there are only 6 spots left and it would take a fairly big upset for quite a few of them NOT to get to 6.
  4. Army, You are exactly right. That is why it was considered a felony. But, as I mentioned, since she is not cooperating and is saying that there was no intent to cause serious bodily harm, then they will probably drop it to a misdemeanor. MeanGreen, I wasn't trying to make light of the situation when I commented on the break, just that when I hear that a bone is broken I think of something more serious than a hairline fracture. I've had a true broken jaw (fractured playing football) and a hairline fracture. The hairline fracture was from a very minor impact. I had no idea it was a fracture. The broken jaw required my mouth to wired shut and to undergo surgery. To me, having experienced both, there is a big difference between the two. As far as wishing he would've shown that type of restraint, I'm sure he is wishing the exact same thing. I don't know that you or I would be treated any differently though if the situations were reversed. From the other scenarios I've read, it would seem that these situations commonly go from felony to misdemeanors, although I could be wrong.
  5. I don't believe Dunn has lied to anyone. In fact, I'm fairly confident he hasn't said anything to anyone. When the warrant officially came out, he turned himself in and that's all we've heard from him. Now, the girlfriend might have lied, that I don't know. Her original story was that he hit her and then later, she reconfirmed that he hit her, but added that it was "on accident." (Which seems a stretch at best, I agree.) I also think it should be clarified that while the jaw is technically broken, it's a very small hairline fracture. Not that it makes any real difference, but when I heard "break" originally, I thought "broke in half." Re: one hit. The report was that it was one hit. That I am fairly confident in. She was not bruised up or anything like that as someone that had been beaten would be. You are acting as if he went Mike Tyson on her and, from all accounts, that is not the case. I'm not trying to defend Dunn here. Or Drew for that matter. I will support their decision either way. But it is human nature for us to assume the worst in these types of situations and I think the worst case scenario that everyone is assuming is likely far from the actual situation. Re: the story I heard. I heard it well before the story was ever broken originally. The stuff that's floating around now could be real or fabricated, but given the timing of when I heard the account and who I heard it from, I trust the validity. Of course, I don't blame you for not doing so though and would probably be the same if the situations were reversed. And I assure you I do not want to hold the standards of UT. Just pointing out that it has happened before and that every punishment that I've heard tossed around is many times more severe than what some other schools have done. Hell, UNLV just suspended a guy that struck and choked his GF for only three games. And, unless I misunderstood the story, she DID press charges. The judge simply took a plea deal. Either way, here's a brief: - Girlfriend has hairline jaw fracture - Told doctor at the ER that boyfriend "hit her" - Police work up aggravated assault charges - Warrant issued for Dunn's arrest - Dunn turns himself in - Girl says that the hit was "on accident" and she refuses to press charges - Charges will likely go from felony to misdemeanor due to lack of evidence of an aggravated assault - Dunn has no history of domestic violence nor any other prior run-ins with law When I was first married, my wife and I got into an enormous fight one night. My father was one of those guys that yelled and yelled so I tend to like to remove myself from those types of situations. Just my auto-response. As I was trying to remove myself, my wife got increasingly angry and kept grabbing me saying, "Don't you dare walk away from me while I'm talking to you." Finally, she grabbed me so hard that she pulled me down to the ground as I was walking away, causing me to hit my head on the way down. Never in my life have I felt the type of blood boiling rage that I felt at that moment. I put my fist through the wall right after that. Not once did it ever cross my mind to strike her, of course, but someone with lesser control might have. I don't know if Dunn's situation was remotely close to mine. It doesn't make it okay, no matter what happened. But I do know that when my wife later told my parents that I put my fist through a wall that night, everyone assumed that *I* had the anger problem. That frustrates me to this day as I have never in my life done anything like that before or after and also because I was trying to get away from the situation when it occurred and was, quite literally, dragged back into it. At the end of the day, no one will know the real story and, without knowing what really happened and why, it's difficult to determine what the punishment should be. However, we all can agree that, regardless of circumstances, there should be one.
  6. That's a reasonable response UNT90. I think a lot of people are looking at it that way. No, I don't think I'm looking at it from a selfish fan viewpoint. I actually think his presence on the team would be very distracting this year if allowed to stay. Plus, if he were to miss all of non-conference, then he'd certainly screw with any chemistry built during non-conference and he may not be worth a lot at the beginning of conference anyways. Also, while Dunn is a huge catalyst to Baylor's offense due to his ability to shoot from outside, we aren't without talent this year and should still be a NCAA quality team without him. And lastly, I think it would be good to get the whole thing behind us as quick as possible. Don't want this to taint any recruiting efforts, etc. It's a tough decision for me because it's his first offense and she doesn't want to press charges. That really does change things in my mind. It's impossible for me to know her heart and whether she is indeed just trying to ride the gravy train (although he is not a NBA lock) or whether she feels guilty because she was the provoker. Again, I'm not saying what he did was okay under any circumstances, but pointing out that if what I heard from within (that she was threatening and punching him refusing to let him walk away) then that can change my philosophy a bit. I'd still probably kill him if it was my daughter, but I have to remind myself that his girlfriend is not a petite, quiet little thing and has been aggressive before. Or, at least, from what I heard. If I had to make the choice, I'd probably try to help him find a place at another school so he could finish his career and education and be done with the whole thing. I just wouldn't want the fallout and would want to put it behind me as quick as possible. But, on the other hand, I also wouldn't want to kick out a first time offender when the victim is pleading with me not to. Especially if I truly believe that she had a large part in the issue and was not as innocent a bystander as portrayed. I don't want to become the University of Texas, but this type of situation has happened before. Remember Jason Klotz? He didn't break her jaw, but at least what Dunn did was only one hit, this sounds even more violent, although it resulted in no broken bones. Klotz didn't even miss a game. For some reason, if Dunn is allowed to stay, which would likely require him sit out of all OOC games, I bet BU would still get more press than Klotz got.
  7. Dunn has been suspended from school. I don't think Drew is trying to sweep this under the rug. There are real talks that Dunn will likely be expelled. The issue is this: Legally, this will probably go down as a misdemeanor. The victim (and only witness) is not wanting to press charges and not cooperating with anyone trying to push charges. It will be very difficult to press aggravated assault charges given the evidence and lack of witness cooperation in doing so. Thus, he'll probably accept guilt on a misdemeanor charge just to get it over with. I mean, I suppose he could fight it for longer, but why? From the university's standpoint, this is a major violation of university code. It is certainly a suspendable offense and could very likely result in expulsion. I have mixed feelings on this whole thing. From what I was told, the situation was that they had an argument and Dunn tried to walk away numerous times and she kept grabbing him and pushing him around and finally he just snapped. If it was truly the first time this has ever happened in their relationship (they've been together for 10 years), then it's possible that she feels a bit guilty that she continually provoked him when he was trying to walk away. That doesn't make what he did ok, but you can see why she would perhaps be trying to protect him a bit if that was the case. And if so, I would be in favor of heavy suspension (say, no non-conference games) and then let him play the rest of the his senior year and be done. On the other hand, is this in an outward sign of a bigger inner problem? He has no track record of violence or any other run-ins with the law, but if this looks like one of those deals where he is only sorry because of the consequences (and not because of his action), then I would get him out. And her credibility is hard to establish since she could just be looking at the money side of things. If this is the situation, then I want him out. At the end of the day, it's a no win. If you let him play, even after a lengthy suspension, people would say he should be expelled. However, if you kick him out, others will be mad that you kicked out a guy with a clean record other than a misdemeanor.
  8. What does any of this have to do with Drew? The kid screwed up. That has nothing to do with the coach. Coach can't be there 24/7. And it's Lace's first offense ever. It's not like he had a long list of issues before he was recruited and the coach risked it anyways. As to the sarcastic remarks about Drew, I would love for someone, anyone, to post a recruiting infraction that Drew has committed. Go ahead. I'll wait. Actually, I won't wait because I'd be waiting for a very long time. Truth of the matter is, Drew has always been a stud recruiter. He pulled in Top 25 classes to Valpo, a school that averaged maybe 3000 in attendance in a conference no one around here knows exists. No one accused him of cheating then. Everyone thought he was great. He comes to the Big 12 and is put in a situation where every rival coach was telling recruits and their mamas not to go to Baylor because you'll be shot. Never mind that it was under a previous coach, with completely different players, under completely different circumstances. So, yes, Drew had to do some negative recruiting in his early days and that pissed folks off. Of course, they didn't see themselves as recruiting negatively towards BU, but we'll just ignore that. Add to it that Drew never played basketball at anything beyond the junior high level. Throw in that he pissed off Coach Knight with a flyer that was factually true and he heard a lot of hate from Coach Knight supporters (including media types). Yes, at one point he hired someone's AAU coach when it was perfectly legal to do so. But at the end of the day, nothing Drew did was illegal or an infraction, yet people drag him through the mud all the same.
  9. Because there was a lot of pressure to lock him up after such a great season...especially with so many decent jobs opening...Auburn and Washington to name a few. That being said, if he would've had a modest buyout clause in his contract, I don't think they would've extended the contract...or at least, wouldn't have upped the ante...because I don't think Leach been offered the job by Auburn or Washington.
  10. There is no out clause for Briles to go to Tech. That much can be confirmed by this statement: Briles has a $1MM buyout for each year remaining on his contract. (It was a 5 year contract of which he has completed two years, so the buyout is now $3MM.) Three things: 1. The administration hated Leach because he used big city lawyers to constantly re-up his contracts. He was also not a glad hander- wasn't going to go to all the Tech events just to shake hands and woo donors. If you were a business man and your best employee was interviewing at other jobs every year and then using those negotiations to increase his compensation, it would get old to you as well. The biggest hurdle of the contract negotiations last year between Tech and Leach were buyout issues. Tech wanted a buyout in the contract (something like Briles had) because it would hamper Leach's ability to jump to another school easily and would eliminate some of Leach's ability to continue the "interview then ask for a raise" action. Leach didn't want a buyout, but was willing to accept a structured payout ($800,000 if still coach on 12/31/09, $200k if coach on 12/31/10, etc). The problem with that is the structured payout keeps Leach from collecting all of his money if he goes to another job but doesn't cause a financial penalty on him that would eliminate the effectiveness of the "interview and ask for a raise" actions. Either way, all of these things combined were frustrating to the Tech BOR and AD which has led to a lot of run-ins between Leach and Myers. They wanted him gone...yesterday. But were struggling for a PR reason to do it when their coach is winning...and winning a lot. 2. James wasn't locked in the shed. He was told to stay in the shed. Big difference there, IMO. Tech players are asked to participate in practice even in injured. Having had a concussion, he wasn't cleared for contact play, but he could've easily have ran or rode a bike, and do other things. Instead, he came to practice in jeans and sunglasses and said "I can't do anything." When asked why he wouldn't take off his sunglasses (which he was wearing to also piss Leach off), he smarted off that he needed it to be dark. Obviously, a verbal argument ensued and Leach told James (in short) that if he couldn't do anything then he needed to go stand in the shed. In essence, the kid threw a fit that he was put in timeout, told his well connected dad, and is using the whole thing to get back at Leach. Leach had no right to discipline the kid just because he couldn't practice...but that's not the issue. The kid wasn't willing to do anything- even things he was cleared to do. That and his cocky attitude are why he got told to stand in the shed. And, even though trainers told him not to mess with actually standing in the shed, the player did it anyways to get Leach in trouble. Keep in mind, this all at an institution where Bobby Knight choked a TT basketball player on live TV just a few years ago. Not only was Knight not fired, but it was a non-issue 24 hours later. That double standard is sure to come up in court. 3. While I wouldn't be surprised to see Briles go to Tech, it's not near as black and white as most think. Tech was struggling to pay Leach the $2.3MM or so they owed him. Briles will request AT LEAST what he can make at Baylor, which is $1.8MM. And I'd bet it would have to be more than that- probably closer to $2MM. And Briles will probably require a 5 year deal or something thereabouts. If you take the $3MM buyout and spread it over each year of the contract, that's another $600M in cost to Tech. So, if they were to pay Briles $2MM and then incur the cost of $600K per year to buyout the contract, then that's a cost to the AD of $2.6MM per year for Briles. And that's assuming they don't have to pay Leach anything. And I think Leach will get something. Meanwhile, they could hire Tubberville or Sumlin for probably $1.8-2MM with no buyout. (Unless UofH has signed a new contract with Sumlin adding a buyout that I'm unaware of.) They could promote McNeill (DC and now interim HC) for probably $1MM (he makes $300K now) or grab Sonny Dykes for probably close to 7 figures. I know some of their major players want Briles and they just might get him...but it is by far the most expensive option...more expensive than Leach.
  11. What I mean by "own" is that the addition of a TCU wouldn't substantially increase viewership. We're not talking about attendance from alums/families, we're talking about interest from the average joe who will watch TV and increase ratings. That drives big TV contracts and big money. Most people in DFW, Houston, etc, already watch Big 12 games and have an interest in them. Not everyone does, obviously, but I'd say the average sports fan does, which is why you don't add TCU to make up for a potential Mizzou loss. Instead, you go out and attract a whole new area. SEC schools make a lot more than B12 schools, so they are not going to be tempted to move. Pac-10 schools have a similiar deal to B12 schools, so there isn't a big money incentive (if any) and then you lose the history and have akward geography for no real gain. The new member would have to come from the MWC or CUSA and BYU and Utah are the closest to Big 12 quality while also adding a new market.
  12. The Big East needs to expand in football but I think has struggled due to their existing size on the basketball side. If Syracuse goes to the Big Ten, I see East Carolina as being a serious competitor for their Big East slot.
  13. Agree with Emmitt. The award is the best player in college football for THAT year. One year. And it shouldn't necessarily be from one of the top teams. Although it will probably always be because of the exposure you get when you are in the chase for the title. I liked Gerhart because he led the nation in rushing behind a pretty average (2-3 star) offensive line with some pretty average talent around him. McCoy, on the other hand, had some unbelievable talent around him which helped him get those amazing stats he amassed over his career. I can't hold that against McCoy (it's not his fault), but not in one year of his career did I say, "That kid is the best player in college football this year." I didn't see Ingram a whole lot and one of those games was the Auburn game so that, admittedly, made me think a little less of him. Surprised this was the first Heisman for Bama though.
  14. Missouri would be a consideration, but I think it would be the Big Ten's 3rd choice or 4th choice (behind Syracuse, Rutgers, and/or Pitt) and I don't the Big Ten will expand just for the sake of expansion unless they think they get something significant from it. Adding Mizzou would give them a better hold on the St. Louis market, but there is a fair share of Big Ten support already there- not sure it adds a ton. At least, not as much as adding 'Cuse. For the sake of conversation, if Mizzou was to leave, it would certainly set some interesting things in motion. TCU makes a lot of sense given the last decade of success on the gridiron, but there has to be some concern that it's taken an undefeated season to get them to 38,000 in avg attendance. (TCU averaged 30k in 2008, 30k in 2007, and 32k in 2006.) Even if you adjust that +5000 for having a more desireable conference slate, those numbers would still be the lowest in the Big 12 outside of Baylor. And the other issue is market share. Let's be honest, does TCU really add a lot of market share? You'd like to think so, but with plenty of Texas, A&M, Tech, and OU fans in the area, there are already a lot of ties to the B12. Not sure adding TCU does anything to improve the conference other than add another competitive football program. If I were a voting member, I'd really want to go after BYU which has a good academic reputation, good athletic reputation, has a strong and devoted fanbase, draws 65,000 for football and 13,000 for basketball, and gives the conference more market share. Only issue there is whether or not BYU would make a jump without Utah. I'd also love Arkansas, given the former ties to the SWC schools, but see no reason they'd leave the SEC. The SEC makes more money than the Big 12 and distributes it more evenly than the Big 12 (which distributes based on TV appearances and postseason appearances). Following the money, it makes no sense for Arky to join.
  15. Gotta agree 100% with Adler. Especially about following the money. Notre Dame won't give up independent status until its financially viable for them to do so. There is no doubt that at some point in the future, conference contracts will become large enough that even Notre Dame will break down and join one. They also have very favorably bowl tie ins- should they play themselves into one any time soon. Only kidding, I know they were eligible this year. But I do love seeing Notre Dame underperform. Pitt and Syracuse make the most sense outside of ND and Syracuse makes the most sense of those two. Pitt simply doesn't add any market share that Penn State doesn't already own. By grabbing The Orange, the Big Ten has the two biggest fanbases on the East Coast and further increases the Big Ten footprint, which means more $$$.
  16. Haven't been on the boards for a while, but was searching through about the Gill stuff and found this thread. I was skeptical of the hire at first too. I had convinced myself that Gill and Buffalo had simply had a flash in the pan last year with their 8-5 regular season due to having a decent senior QB. But I think I am more impressed by this year, which is why I'm beginning to convince myself that this was a decent pick for KU. Eight of Buffalo's 12 games this season were decided by a TD or less and four games were decided by 3 pts or less. Of those eight "tossup" games, they won only 3 of them, meaning they left five "winnable" games on the table. In other words, this team played themselves into a position to win as many as 10 games. Sure, they only won 5, and we can play the "woulda shoulda coulda" game all day, but for a program that, as mentioned above, has facilities worse than many Texas high schools, is in a very cold climate, has not one bit of history, I'm pretty amazed by their competitiveness. The question in my mind then shifts to not whether or not is a decent coach, but whether he can outcoach some of the other B12 coaches and succeed in the longrun. And that's where I am not so confident. While Kansas is a big upgrade from Buffalo, Gill will find himself once again at a disadvantage in terms of facilities compared to most of his conference running mates. Not only that, but KU loses a ton of starters from this years squad, including some pretty significant playmakers. And while KU has seen recent success under Mangino, much of that has come at a time when KSU, ISU, and Colorado have been downtrodden. Both Kansas State and Iowa State improved leaps and bounds this year and Nebraska looks to be setting themselves up nicely for the future as well. That's a big hurdle for Gill and he'll need to outscheme and outevaluate for the diamonds in the rough to succeed at Kansas like Mangino did.
  17. Also, I meant to add: Always remove the membrane on the back (bone side) of pork ribs before marinating. It's sometimes hard to get the membrane off at first, but once you get it going, it should be relatively easy. I'm always amazed by the amount of people who don't do this. That membrane can make even the best cooked ribs tough to eat if its not removed. Here's a pic:
  18. Baby back pork ribs. After trimming, marinate overnight (at least 12 hours) in a combination of Stubb's Pork Marinade & Jack Daniels. (The whiskey helps break down the meat.) On day of, I take the ribs out of the marinade, allow them to drip dry a bit, then rub them with salt & pepper to taste. While on the grill, I mop them every 20-30 minutes with Woody's Cook-in Sauce. (I use Woody's because it is low in sugar, which has a tendency to burn if left on the meat too long.) When the meat is very close to being done (less than 20 minutes or so left), I mop them one last time with the BBQ sauce of choice (no need to worry about sugar at this point as they won't be on the pit for much longer). Personally, I like to put one last layer of Woody's Cook-in Sauce on there and then add just a sprinkle of brown and white sugar. (Not too much...the meat should just have a very faint taste of sweet and absolutely should NOT taste like a candy bar.) However, I sometime improvise with other sauces, especially if someone prefers one. Cooking time is about 4 hours, give or take. Much better to cook slow than cook fast. Cooking too quick will make the meat tough...even with all the marinating. Prep takes about 13 hours, with 12 of it being the time the meat needs to marinate. Takes about 30 minutes pre-marinating for 4-5 racks.
  19. Why in the world is there a drag strip running right next to their stadium? That's horrible. And while the lights on the field are old school, they need to update those. That thing looks like it's in desperate need of repair and updating.
  20. I suppose that's true and I hadn't thought of it before you said that. It sucks that it happens that way though. Here's what a camera view looks like from the current setup: And here's what one might look like from the visitor stands: (I know this is a panoramic, but it was the best I could fine of a gameday) Maybe this one is better from the visitor stands (bad pic quality, but you get the idea): I hate the fact that when we are on TV, we always get a nice shot of the visitor section. I think it would look much more impressive if they could shoot towards the pressbox, but then again, you'd have to get them awfully high up to do that and that side of the stadium isn't very tall. So, there ya go.
  21. Total season tickets were only about 5-7k between 2001-2004. Yes, Baylor football had hit an alltime low. In 05, that jumped up to about 10k. This year, it's over 15k. While those season tickets could mess with the numbers a bit, if only half of the season ticket holders showed up, the maximum skew is a couple of thousands during 2001-2004. What games? You mentioned Oklahoma (maybe 2002) and that was the last game of the year after we had just lost 41-0 to Texas A&M, 34-0 to Colorado, 44-10 to Kansas State, 62-11 to Tech, and 41-0 to Texas IN A ROW. The attendance of that game was 28k and there might have been 10k Oklahoma fans there (they were 8-1 going into that game). Unfortunately, this is a big mistake by Baylor imo. The TV cameras face the visitors section of the stadium. The home side (pressbox side) is never shown, and it (for numerous reasons- it's in the shade for most of the games, etc) is always much more full. If Baylor was smart, they'd build platforms for TV on the visitor side of the stadium facing the home side. The pressbox is huge and looks impressive on TV and again, that side is always much more full.
  22. This is a very, very silly statement. Look at the attendance of the following non-conference home games. Also consider the fact that we haven't had a winning season in 10 years. If we draw this well against these opponents, with no winning season in 10 years, then that's not too shabby IMO. 2005 (Baylor finished 5-6) Samford - 36,575 2004 (Baylor finished 3-8) Texas State - 28,533 North Texas - 33,619 2003 (Baylor finished 3-9) UAB - 28,732 SMU - 30,256 Sam Houston - 27,842 2002 (Baylor finished 3-9) Samford - 28,375 Tulsa- 30,337 2001 (Baylor finished 3-8) Arkansas State - 28,953 New Mexico - 38,396 The argument that we wouldn't draw well in a smaller conference just doesn't hold water, IMO. The absolute worst attendance we've had since 2001 was 23,000 against Missouri in 2004. The game had a 9:00pm start so it could be on FSN. What we got was a huge downpour. It had rained all day and throughout the game as well. I'm surprised attendance was that high, considering the horrible weather, very late start time, and the fact that the game was on TV. Don't get me wrong- I'm not proud of the attendance numbers above. But considering that we haven't been to a bowl in almost 12 years and haven't had a winning season in 10, keeping those numbers that high says that we do have a devout core of followers. Knowing that UTEP averaged only 20,000 two years ago and now sells out in El Paso tells me that Baylor could do the same if we can mimick that success.
  23. Baylor and A&M both have flex rates. Baylor Sept. 3- TCU $37 Sept. 9- Northwestern St. $27 Sept. 23- Army (Parents' Weekend) $32 Sept. 30- Kansas State $32 Oct. 21- Kansas (Homecoming) $32 Oct. 28- Texas A&M $45 Nov. 18- Oklahoma $37 Texas A&M Sept 02- vs The Citadel $53 Sept 09- vs Louisiana Lafayette $53 Sept 23- vs Louisiana Tech $53 Sept 30- vs Texas Tech $83 Oct 14- vs Missouri $73 Nov 04- vs Oklahoma $83 Nov 11- vs Nebraska $83
  24. This poll said that Baylor would be 2-9 last year and 0-8 in the Big 12. They said Nebraska would be 3-8 and 2-6 in the Big 12 last year. Of course, they did pick Texas and Colorado to be in the Big 12 championship game.
  25. To be fair, that flag has been flown by BU fans since the late 90s. I'm not saying some UNT fans didn't start using it first (probably so), but this is certainly not the first time a BU fan has flown one. It is the first time I've seen it for sale in the BU bookstore though. In regards to the uniforms...the uni's themselves are actually throwbacks to the 1970s. The green helmets are new, of course, but Morriss introduced the two helmet system at Kentucky before he got to Baylor, so I think that's just his thing.
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