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  1. 3 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

    We really need to see the ball thrown around a lot in this game.   We can't just score a bunch leaning on the run game the whole time.  That's a strength of the team.  We already know what we have in the run game.   

    This kind of game is one you use to work out issues.   We clearly have issues passing the ball.  
     

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  2. 1 hour ago, DeepGreen said:

    Would these issues have come up had we won the game against SMU?  And I'm not giving Wren and Neal a pass.  I have no doubt there were issues at the game that need to be corrected.  I mean, it's not like the first big football game we've had at Apogee.  Wren should have all of these issues worked out before the first home game of the season.

    Yes, the issues would have still come up. I haven’t been upset about the game at all. We all had a pretty good idea what the outcome would be. 

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  3. A quick note to the clowns reading this that can't handle any criticism: I believe Wren and Neal are both a big net positive. Ok?

    Now on to the rant.

    Wren had to send the email, ok? There was no fantastical epiphany on accountability. Wren did his job really, really bad on Saturday. This has happened before. Not only has this happened under Wren before, but this EXACT SAME BULLSHIT happened under RV. And oh yeah, under a different President as well.

    We are either unable or unwilling to pull our collective heads out of our collective asses.

    For those of you in the "just get there earlier" or "it didn't happen to me" crowd, I wish you would consider a few things.

    I wish you would empathize with those who had significant issues on Saturday. These are significant issues for some, not all. They are still significant issues. They really happened. These issues are serious enough to drive potential fans away forever. An answer of "just get there earlier" or "it didn't happen to me" only hurts in finding a solution to this bullshit. It's the same old shit.

    Our AD is one of the highest paid ADs in the country. Yes, country. Like top 30ish. I expect him to document and resolve issues like these for all future ADs. This is basic job responsibility stuff. Again, it's the same old shit. We gave a negative gameday experience to some potential fans who will never, ever come back.

    Not only am I pointing the finger at the AD, but I'm also pointing the finger at Neal. Hey Doc, act like you're smart and find a solution to this.

    You two are capable of great things but the amount of ego and selfishness is appalling. It's almost as if you two don't give a douchebag about the future as long as you look good now. It's almost as if you want to make the guy following you have a tougher job, so your legacy looks better.

    You two receive well deserved praise in a lot of areas but both of you get a resounding "F" in change management. So do your predecessors. Just 100% terrible. Change management is a real thing and you should really look into it.

    Neither of you will be around forever but you need to act in a responsible manner. You need to find solutions AND put systems in place to ensure this never happens again...whomever is the AD or University President. I know it doesn't fulfill your selfish needs right now, but it is the right thing to do.

    I don't give Wren or Neal a pass. This is just the same old shit. Wren and Neal, c'mon fella's we like you! Now it's time to get your shit together. 

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  4. 50 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

    Didn't know we were paying them that much. Moving forward, I hope the AD stops buying wins and re-purposes that money to NIL. That $1 million yearly expense going to NIL would be a better boost IMO.

    The University and NIL are to remain separate entities. Doing what you suggested would be NCAA violation. Not that it matters because are there really any violations anymore? This is sports anarchy right now so eff it, divert the funds to NIL. I say this in jest.

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  5. I was in Lubbock watching the #6 Red Raiders beat the #1 Longhorns with the Crabtree touchdown. It was early in that game and I was looking at my phone for play by play updates. I just knew the Hilltoppers were going to punch it in making it more likely we would end the season winless. It went from 45-40 to 51-40 game over on my phone with North Texas as the victors. I was so confused. It took a couple of minutes for me to figure out what happened.

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  6. 38 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

    This has everything to do with culture. North Texas is a school that just doesn't place importance on attending ANYTHING, especially anything athletic, that is UNT related. Its a school that celebrates music/arts, lower cost, and convenience to DFW. Its gotten better in the last few years, as Denton as a college town has become more "cool" than it ever was when most of the students were commuters from DFW and its suburbs. But the university also gets zero help from Dentonites, too, most of whom either don't care or actively loathe our athletic teams.

    Level of competition matters as does the product on the field/court. I've seen some great crowds over the past few years in FB and MBB against competition that isn't a big draw. I think 30K at a football game and 9K at a basketball game is a leap forward. We've also done very poorly at times when our team and or opponent just aren't very good. I disagree about Dentonites, they show up when there is a good product or when the opponent is a household name...just like everyone else.

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  7. 13 hours ago, Cougar King said:

    Big 12 will grab Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah. Washington and Oregon can either come to The Big 12 or wait for a Big 10 invite that may or may not come.

     

    Stanford is Stanford and will do Stanford things. They have $37 billion, already recruit nationally and can afford independence if they want to. 

     

    Cal, Oregon State and Washington State are dead weight and have outlived their usefulness in the world of college football.

     

     

     

    My first upvote ever for the Queen.

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  8. On 7/12/2022 at 11:39 AM, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

    I’ve learned after 2019 that I’ll just buy from the opposing team and move to the UNT section if I want because it’s ALWAYS a pain in the ass!!

    About to call the UTEP ticket office and get things figured out for that game, tickets are flying by…

    This is totally the way to go. I do the same for bowl games as well.

    Pros from buying at the North Texas ticket office:

    1) Our AD gets a small cut.

    2) You get to sit by other North Texas fans.

    The Cons:

    1) Probably the worst tickets available. You will be able to score much, much, much better seats from the other ticket office, including on the North Texas sideline.

    2) Unpredictable delivery. They say they will be available on Tuesday, but you are still looking for them on Friday, which we will all be forced to read your posts about this Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.

    3) You don't know until you get the ticket exactly where you will be sitting (and the seats will suck).

    4) Increased level of dread and frustration about the future and direction of the athletic department and even the University as a whole.

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  9. 3 minutes ago, greenminer said:

    This comes back to the needle moving from really awful, to not-as awful.

    Where were you when the report came out? I think the general sentiment on the board was, these were things/pictures that most suspected, but having someone step in - someone not affiliated with UNT - and bringing them to light was important.

    I think that is how most of these evaluations work in any industry.  You need to hear it from someone outside your echo chamber.  That's their value.

    Dude, just stop. RV should be assessed on how it was when he started to how it was when he left because that was, you know, his job. We weren't just awful; we were ULM awful. We passed many a school during his tenure in terms of big boy business stuff like facilities, revenue, and willingness to take on debt. That's the big boy business stuff that gets you into better conferences instead of ABC State who does a lot with a little who can't understand why they got passed by because they had a better win loss record than UNT and then blame it on markets.

    I was right here when that bullshit report came out. Yes, we needed to improve on some things. We still do and we don't need another "report" to make it true.

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  10. 8 minutes ago, greenminer said:

    Unlike a lot of you, apparently, I cannot get past that 3rd party evaluation at the end of his tenure.  I cannot discredit Flyer's grassroots campaign.  I think it - not RV - is the reason the vote passed.  And the worst statistic of all is the combined record of all his hires in the major sports.

    Did the needle move while he was here? Yep! But not a lot, and certainly not thanks to any genius RV move.  IMO, you could have placed anyone - including past pro-athletics ADs - into his position at the same time and they would have done at least as well...probably better.

    We will agree to disagree.  Thanks for reading.

    This is an important statistic for sure, but you are GREATLY missing the mark like all of the message board experts who couldn't for the life of them figure out why UNT was invited to the American when in reality we were a slam dunk. It didn't just happen when Wren arrived and the grand summation of all of the previous ADs efforts amounted to a pile of shit. RV deserves a TREMENDOUS amount of credit for seeing the big picture and getting us in a position to get to where we wanted to be. If anyone else could have done it, they would have. They didn't and they are stuck where they are.

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  11. 3 minutes ago, greenminer said:

    How about a 3rd party standard? Because we had one done, and it was awful

    They didn't analyze the shit show he inherited from 1999, did they? They didn't analyze before and after, did they? I am very aware of the 3rd party report. Those third-party reports are such performative art. It's not like there was anything in the "report" we didn't already know and if there was, we certainly should have and that's on us. Talk about a waste of money. It reminds me of the American contracting the former B1G guys to give them advice on conference realignment and the American realized the report they received wasn't anything they didn't already know. Remember the bullshit Gene Stallings report on UNT? It was craaaaaaaap. It was only $20K but c'mon.

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  12. 19 minutes ago, greenminer said:

    swing and miss.  Not sure if you're reading the entire thread.  It's been said multiple times: using our past as a baseline just does not work for a HOF standard.

    I don't care if it has been said multiple times, it wasn't my point. My point was that he moved the needle significantly in the right direction by any standard.

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  13. 45 minutes ago, greenminer said:

    one way to qualify HOF worthiness, IMO, is to swap the said person with anyone else and try to imagine if they would do better, worse, or same.

    Would a different RB have been able to replicate Ja-Mo's freshman year? Likely not.
    Would a different DT have been able to rise to the level of Booger's play? Likely not.
    Would a different person in charge have come to Denton and said, "I know what this place needs - TAILGATING and NEW CHAIRS." - probably.

    ...guys I got to shake RV's hand.  Thank him for his efforts.  Super swell guy.  But HOF worthy?  I'm just not interested in making that leap.

    Ok, let's swap RV for every other AD we have had in school history. Boom! HOF worthy. Thanks for the layup.

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  14. On 6/29/2022 at 1:32 PM, southsideguy said:

    I know this his personality but SL needs to learn to excite the crowd and get people interested again in the program.  He needs to be a cheerleader.  

    Look at coach Mac and the basketball team.   I bet Mac speaks to the freshman orientation groups.  He is positive and optimistic and he rubs off on his players and the fans.

     If you had to go listen to SL or GM speak which would you choose.   

    GM here.  

    I'm not trying to be combative, but I don't care about that. Run a good program is all I ultimately care about. If he's the next great orator of college football coaches, then great. I'm not going to lose sleep if he isn't.

  15. 15 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

     

    Stanford is the #6 school in the country, Cal is the #2 public school. Even though you may be talking about football performance their prestige carries a lot of weight. 

    I'm talking athletes, not mathletes. Both are fine schools. My point is NOT NEAR ENOUGH PEOPLE give a crap about football there, not even themselves. It is truly shocking to see the apathy. Take a look at attendance each game for each school. Their attendance counters and the SMU attendance counter are cousins by the way. As far as butts in seats my guess is that both Cal and Stanford were under 25K for the year.

  16. 6 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

    I think winning is the important thing as long as you aren't playing bigger brands.  Do you really think Tulsa and Tulane are going to put more of our fans in Apogee?   Yes, they are a more attractive opponent than Arkansas State or Southern Miss. Are Temple and South Florida moving the needle in Denton?   No, they aren't. Navy might be the only team we MIGHT see each season (depending on whatever conference scheduling the new AAC adopts) that puts a few extra buts in seats.  I see what you are trying to say but let's look at who we played against 10 years ago vs who will be our conference mates next year. There is a big difference, or at least I think so.

    Ark State vs. Memphis

    ULM vs. Tulane

    UL vs. SMU

    Troy vs. UAB

    FIU vs. USF

    MTSU vs. Rice

    WKU vs. UTSA

    USA vs. Tulsa

    Anyone we shared a conference with vs. Navy

    I see every New Denton opponent as more of a draw over Old Denton opponents.

     

     

    What kind of attendance bump do you expect that independent of us winning.?

    Do you really think Tulsa and Tulane are going to put more of our fans in Apogee?   Yes, they are a more attractive opponent than Arkansas State or Southern Miss.

    Are Temple and South Florida moving the needle in Denton?   No, they aren't. 

    Navy might be the only team we MIGHT see each season (depending on whatever conference scheduling the new AAC adopts) that puts a few extra buts in seats.  I see what you are trying to say but let's look at who we played against 10 years ago vs who will be our conference mates next year. 

    There is a big difference, or at least I think so.

    Ark State vs. Memphis

    ULM vs. Tulane

    UL vs. SMU

    Troy vs. UAB

    FIU vs. USF

    MTSU vs. Rice

    WKU vs. UTSA

    USA vs. Tulsa

    Anyone we shared a conference with vs. Navy

    How much increase? I don't know, 1-2k maybe? It's a lot better for sure but it certainly doesn't fix our attendance by itself.

     

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  17. 4 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

    We just keep inching in land as the incoming  tide washes the beach away imo.  I would be really curious to see what our attendance looked like if we play Texas Tech, OSU, Baylor, and  Houston, every year and were around 0.500 in those games.  We were already playing SMU regularly and the other teams that will be new to our conference schedule really won't do anything for attendance even if we are 0.750 against them.  

    I think you are a little off base there.

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