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Just now, wardly said:
With a few exceptions UNT has been at the bottom of alumni giving in D1 athletic programs and I doubt that will change. The NIL more so that the transfer portal is our achilles heel .
I meant "Texas D1 athletic programs."
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With a few exceptions UNT has been at the bottom of alumni giving in D1 athletic programs and I doubt that will change. The NIL more so that the transfer portal is our achilles heel .
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37 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:
It looks like unlimited transfers are going to be approved across all sports with no sitting out. The only condition will be that you cannot transfer mid-year in a sport and play for two schools in the same academic year. Supposedly, this will be tied to maintaining educational levels that are supposed to ensure the student is on the way to completing school. Total Bull Shit! Not one person, including presidents of universities, gives a crap whether or not these kids are graduating from school. We all bitch about the NCAA, but remember, the NCAA is controlled by the college presidents. I cannot wait till some of these kids who transfer 4 times in a five-year career start suing because they never got a degree.
TWO TERMS THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED AGAIN
- Student-athlete
- "For the good of the game"
This decision was decided in the courthouse, not the NCAA, who has little power left.
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16 hours ago, MeanGreenZen said:
Who is the last true freshman to make a significant impact on this program?
Ronnie Morgan
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I guess our polo pony is not horsing around.
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How many seats in softball venue?
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Is no one happy where they are?
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17 hours ago, Salsa_Verde said:
…….so what you’re saying is, nothing is off the table?
Similar to Jerry Jones saying " we are all in."
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9 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:
You don't have to look very long or hard to realize we aren't in this boat alone.
Indiana State lost their coach and 7 players.
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2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:
I want a coach that is telling his guys to invest in our program and make it great and not to use us as a stepping stone.
Coaches and AD's use G5 programs as stepping stones [ Wren, Mac] so how can you not expect players to as well.
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No longer are you building for the future. With the portal and NIL the future is no longer than your upcoming season.
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I went to an anger management seminar once. It really pissed me off when I got the bill.
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6 hours ago, keith said:
I'll play or at least try to explain the reaction we observe. Can't speak for everyone, but I think most (maybe all) would be absolutely fine with the scenario you lay out above. I think your real question is why do people react negatively when our players (especially starters/stars) hit the portal, but welcome with open arms players that transfer in. The latter doesn't need a lot of explanation. I'll try to dissect the former.
I think the initial visceral reaction when "our players" choose to leave is deeply-rooted in the fragile psyche of the Mean Green fan base. Those here are passionate about the University of North Texas, want good things for the school, want the athletic teams to be successful and desperately want the recognition that comes with winning and championships. In the case of athletic success much of that is dependent on the athletes. They become the vehicle for that recognition.
When athletes choose to come to UNT over other schools it serves as a type of consensual validation of the choice each of us made to attend here. When those same player spend 3 or 4 years developing their skills, becoming starters or stars on the team, they are seen, rightly or wrongly, as a catalyst that will surely get us over that hump and the recognition we are all starved for. Plus we get to know them well...they are one of us. Then on the cusp of everything good that will come next season, they choose to leave. It's like they are saying they have outgrown us and they cannot get where they want to be if they stay associated with UNT. For those that are so passionate about North Texas, that's hard to hear and it hurts. On top of that, throw in the realization that any success that athlete may have in his or her one year at XYZ U will accrue to XYZ U and not North Texas. That's like rubbing salt in the wound.
Eventually, I think everyone gets over it, but for the long-suffering fan base it's just another hit. It's a rather ordinary and understandable emotional reaction when you think about it.
This is too logical to be accepted as fact.
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58 minutes ago, NT80 said:
He seems like he has experience across several college sports entities and media networks.
Very glad it’s not Judy!Joining the BIG 10 nearly bankrupted the Rutgers athletic department. If memory serves they had to borrow several hundred million dollars from both Rutgers University and the Big 10 in order to upgrade their athletic facilities to meet conference standards. It's been a while but at one point some if not all of the payout they should of received as a Big 10 member was held back and applied against their loan. The University broke their own rule against loaning money to individual departments but changed it in order to bail out their Athletic Department. Hopefully he is closer in ability to the Big 12 commissioner than the PAC 12's.
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2 hours ago, DentonStang said:
We're clearly just like Notre Dame.
ND is dedicated to the God of Roman Catholicism.
BYU is dedicated to the God of Mormonism.
Baylor is dedicated to the God of Evangelical Protestantism.
SMU is dedicated to the God of Money and Finance.
If I'm SMU I don't know if that is something to be proud of or not. While I appreciate financial success you need to be known for something else.
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1 hour ago, drex said:
The amusing thing to me about the commercial is that there is an expectation by SMU that more than 150 people care what conference they play in.
Why I might agree with you I though it was original and very well done.
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Did anyone else catch the SMU commercials during last nights LSU/Iowa women's basketball game? They were announcing their 2025 entry into the ACC, and it was pretty cool. Got to give them credit.
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On 3/30/2024 at 12:03 AM, CMJ said:
Our attendance was up like 9% this season.
That's about 360 people.
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17 hours ago, Cougar King said:
Evidently you think highly enough about it to name yourself that.
Boys,boys! Keep this up and I will need to send you to the principal's office. Personally I was pulling for Houston and disappointed that they lost a key player early in the game due to a injury. We would have had a much better season without injuries as well but that's part of all athletics. Also, just an old man's opinion but I have no problem with other than UNT fans posting on this site. Our Arkansas State poster has very good insight into college football and I always learn something from the information he shares. However he treats this site with respect, avoiding petty comments, and is treated with respect as well, something all of us could learn from.
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Well if it's considered compensation and a value is determined then I would think a "benefits" package would be taxable although I am not sure. Perhaps some one who does could chime in.
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4 hours ago, NT80 said:
That works. Toss out their free education, books, meals, dorm and medical and let them pay for it with their NIL, like real employees have to.
Well the university would need to pay them like employees , which would entitle them to employee benefits. The NIL has nothing to do with it. Their remuneration could be is the form of a salary or additional benefits such as tuition, meals,and housing,which would be assigned a monetary value. They also would be entitled to Workman's Compensation so if they were injured they could file a claim. This new world is a real can of worms but eventually will work itself out although we might not like the ending.
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10 minutes ago, NT80 said:
Coaches are under contracts, many with buyout stipulations if they want to leave before the end of it. They can't just walk away like a player can now. Scholarships used to have sit-out rules if you transferred. Put players under contracts too, with buyouts for the new school to pay.
The new school, such as TT, would buy coach Mac out of his contract as will all universities of note. UNT paid North Carolina of Somewhere $100,000 to buy their women's basketball coach Karen Ashton out and she lasted one year before bolting to Texas. I feel safe in saying Texas bought her contract out and we got our money back and maybe even a little more. She eventually was fired because she could never compete with Baylor and is now at UTSA. If you want to put players under contract you would need to treat them as employees with the same benefits you provide all other employees. In summary, we are in violent agreement that the system is broken until it isn't and Chandler Rogers lands in our lap. I think in the near future the Power conferences such as Big 10 and SEC will spin off and do their own thing leaving the Group of whatever number to put their own division together leaving 1AA programs alone. In the meantime we are stuck in NIL/Transfer Portal Hell.
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3 hours ago, Tom McKrackin said:
Sad to see him go. Why can’t the NCAA fix this mess? It is killing the sport.
Legally the NCAA lost in court and can do nothing. All the players are doing is following the example set by the coaches. I didn't see much if any criticism of coach Mac heading to TT for more money so why are a few of you blasting the players for doing the same. Amateur college sports as we know it is dead. We need to accept it and move on but to continue to bash players who played for us and then entered the portal is childish.
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What new arena? Until the smoke clears and the P5 and G5 programs truly separate I would be very reluctant to spend millions on bricks and sticks if I am UNT. The 70 or so P5 programs are going to take most if not all the tv money with them when they go and basically the G5 programs will be gate revenue sports as well as a farm system for the rich and famous.