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  1. UTSA's New DL Coach is former Bama guy

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    Posted · Edited by GreenMachine

    44 minutes ago, correcamino said:

    I didn't know band teachers had people working underneath them? Has UNT added a College of Engineering yet?

    Yes, you "General Study" majors aka Jr College, will always report to your UNT Engineering  and Business bosses. Be happy you are making more than minimum wage with your degree. Otherwise, your UNT boss will fire your dumb ass.

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  2. Facilities tour by Leadership

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    6 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

    Hello, McFly?  Bueller?  Bueller?  Bueller?  We have historical evidence that it makes no difference at Syracuse.  They practice and play indoor, year round, and they suck much.  They are one of the P5s perennial sucks.

    Syracuse

    2016:  4-8
    2015:  4-8
    2014:  3-9
    2013:  7-6
    2012:  8-5
    2011:  5-7
    2010:  8-5
    2009:  4-8
    2008:  3-9
    2007:  2-10
    2006:  4-8
    2005:  1-10
    2004:  6-6
    2003:  6-6
    2002:  4-8

    Well...there's Syracuse football for the past 15 seasons.  Three winning seasons.  Three in fifteen. 

    Guess how many winning seasons we've had in the same span.  Four.  Yes, one more than Syracuse.  And, they practice and play indoors.

    Also, in that 15 years span - or, any other year span - UNT hasn't had any heat strokes or deaths despite practicing and playing outdoors

    So...try again.  It's not a competitive advantage.  It's a "see, look, we have one now, too!" thing.  Just call it what it is. 

    HISTORICAL FUN TIMES:  Syracuse's one and only national title came in 1959...when they practiced and played at the outdoor Archbold Stadium.  Pretty crazy, right?  Practicing and playing in the cold and snow and all, and winning a national title? 

    Wonder how the Green Bay Packers of old fared having to practice and play outdoors?  The Texas Longhorns of the 60s, playing and practicing outdoors?  Pretty nutty, no?  And, no heat stroke, deaths...nor anyone up north freezing to death.  Not even in the 50s and 60s when they didn't have a dozen people on a training staff making sure they were all hydrated at Southern schools like Texas or suffering from hypothermia in place like Green Bay.

     

     

    What the what???  Syracuse in 1959 playing outside, getting muddy and all from the cold, upstate New York weather...and winning the national title? 
    83176591-syracuse-university-ernie-davis

    Dude, you definitely have problems. Switch back to TFLF, he wasn't as crazy. Close  but no cigar.

  5. Facilities tour by Leadership

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    5 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

    List the number of UNT football players - or, players from any other outside sport such as softball, soccer, tennis, or track and field - who have died from heat stroke, either in practice or competition.  It's a completely false argument.

    The sun will be hot in September; no amount of indoor facilities will change that on game day.

    All of the things on your final list have either been updated and added without an indoor facility.  This is just another space with more of the same stuff, and using money we could spend on better coaches. If they want more, they can build more without building an airplane hanger with a football field inside of it.

    It's a plaything to say, "Look!  Now we have one, too!"  There is no competitive advantage to having one; especially in a part of the country where inclement weather is rarely a factor. 

    If indoor practice facilities made a real difference, it would be Syracuse winning national title after national title.  They've been practicing indoors since 1980.  They have three winning seasons in the past 14...and zero national titles. 

    We will take our lowly rated recruiting classes and coddle them from the elements one or two days out of the year...with coaches we can't afford to keep longer than a season or two if they turn out to be half decent.  It would be laughable if it weren't reality.

    Do you think all these other Universities would spend money on an IPF if it was necessary or needed? You are fighting a losing battle on this one.

    5 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

    Thank you.

    Also, once it's built, it changes nothing competitively - otherwise, every school that already had one would be winning more.  There is no evidence of that anywhere.  Kansas State owning the Longhorns is a great example.

    At the end of the day, the nine to 11 guys on the offensive and defensive line have to stick their hands on the ground and get the play rolling, every play.  No amount of practicing indoors changes that.  Never has, never will.

    There are plenty of airplane hangers - along with indoor facilities already within two hours drive of the UNT campus.  They didn't need to fly up to Liberty to look at their version of airplane hanger football field. 

    We're scraping the bottom of the barrel for football coaches, yet people are getting wood about an indoor football field in a city where inclement weather effect the football team about zero to two times per year!

     

    Your logic is flawed. Say Syracuse goes 6-6 every year and they have an IPF. Without it, how do you know they don't go 3-9 every year? Thus, the IPF does make them more competitive.

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  6. Facilities tour by Leadership

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    Posted · Edited by GreenMachine

    4 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

    Pssht!  Jerry Jones just built one in Frisco about 30-35 minutes East.  They couldn't have just driven over there and asked him a question or two?

    The other thing I find laughable is that they have to spend money to go look at these things in person...as if none of them has ever seen one or been inside of one before.  Like they are a busload of Japanese tourists. 

    Pointless.  Littrell and Baker have surely been in a dozen of these facilities before.  It isn't rocket science.  It's a little building, usually shaped like a small airplane hanger, with a football field and some office inside, perhaps a weight room.  These things are not earth-shattering pieces of architecture and engineering. 

    And, to Lifer's point, I was within a ball hair of just posting a picture of Bear Bryant at the thought of a Texas football school wanting to shield it's team from the heat.  

    It's things like this that convince me we are not evolving or adapting.  Far from.  Our grandfathers, grandmothers, and great grandfathers, and great grandmothers toiled in the sun on farms scratching out existences and feeding the nation.  And, they did it in the blistering heat, the withering wind, a through piles of snow, harvesting crops and tending to livestock, 365 days a year - no vacations, no sick days, no pension, no health care benefits, and no minimum wage.

    But, here we are just four or so decades removed from it, and we're trying to prevent football players - not ballet dancers, football players - from having the sun touch their skin for too long and to keep them from being in the heat for an hour or two.

    I'm here to tell you that my ancestors who lived into their 80s and 90s in spite of their "hard living" conditions will likely outlive most of this cupcakey generation of Americans.

    Pete's pepper!  I'll bet Bear didn't even give the Junction Boys any sun screen!

     

    There is one of TFLF usual, incoherent rants. He's back!!!

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  9. I need to be talked off the ledge....

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    Just now, Army of Dad said:

    If you think comparing that a monstrous failure of a MBB coach still being allowed to fail again in his fifth (!) season is senseless bitching then I don't think we will be able to agree on much if anything. That's about as dumb of a statement one could make.

    I'll refresh your memory. Benford's teams have never even reached .500 in a season against D1 competition. Benford lost 20 games twice in his first four years and is a virtual certainty to lost 20 plus again this season. No self respecting athletic department would allow a coach to coach his final contract season, much less tolerate losing 20+ three times in five seasons.

    If WB needed a year to figure out Benford should be terminated then we've got the wrong guy.

    So stating your opinion over and over on this message board helps WB make a decision? I think we all know TB is gone after a few more games, dont see the sense in continously bitching about him. And you are right, we probably won't agree on that if anything but I am fine with that too.

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  11. I need to be talked off the ledge....

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    7 minutes ago, Army of Dad said:

    The time for patience has passed. UNT needs a AD that delivers some action. 

    As for the budget, that didn't stop him from addin several high level positions and basically make no other changes so that's a specious argument.

    Do you remember the report that came out shortly after he came on board? I don't think some of you guys realize what a shithole program RV left us in. Did you bother to ever head over to the tennis courts? I will be damned if they weren't in the worst playing condition than I have ever seen. That has been repaired. Did you see the piss poor condition various locker rooms were in? Most have been updated and others are in the process of being updated. We are in dire need of an IPF just to stay up with conference mates, that is being worked on. I swear some of you guys think that just because one super negative poster has been banned, you guys have to pile on in his absence. No one on this board has ever been an athletic director, no one on this board has a clue what is going on behind the scenes of our athletic department. Chill the F out and let WB at least get his feet on the ground and running before we all pile on with the senseless bitching.

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  15. New grad assistant

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    1 hour ago, BTG_Fan1 said:

    Honest question, because I'm most likely one of the younger guys on here and have no idea...

    But do we have any big-time alumni/notable alumni that could just drop a ton of money? I know like OKState got one of their alumni to give them a blank check to build up there program

    I believe the owner/founder of Sam Moon is an alum.

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  19. MGB: Remake of staff continues as LeBlanc is reportedly moving on

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    Posted · Edited by GreenMachine

    23 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

    I just don't see this happening here. For 1, their are too many people around here that absolutely loathe athletics--not just apathy, but actually hate it being here. Secondly, the apathy part is staggering for a university in Texas. Third, we have never spent money on athletics to be our primary window to the university--we prefer music, arts, and a "value" education. Something has to be primary and its always been those two areas first here at UNT.

    What I want is for us to treat athletics like the other G5s in our peer group do. In some ways, we do, but in others (recruiting budget, accepting losing) we do not. I'll always understand why people leave here for the P5 jobs that pay way more and that we will never financially compete with. But if we don't fix the winning part here, the absolute failure that is our recruiting will continue, which is the lifeblood of a program's path upward.

    Have you ever attended an art exhibit on campus? I have and hardly anybody showed up. Have you been to a musical? I have and it was 95% empty. This school and entire town don't really support anything. Not sure how to fix this problem buy it's definitely not just an apathy toward sports, it's an apathy toward everything or maybe it's just due to laziness.

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  21. Round 2 of Facilities Improvement Started

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    22 minutes ago, Harry said:

    The Pit is the least of our worries.  Frankly it is just not pretty on the outside, it is that old dull architecture.

    I just see things like a multi purpose indoor facility being a higher priority.

    Disagree, I have heard from multiple sources the structural integrity is in question. It's old, delapitated, and is a severe safety hazard. 

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