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  1. 6 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

    I think the point he's trying to make is Deion Sanders is beating FCS competition with FCS competition which isn't completely accurate. There's what? 30 FBS transfers at Jackson State and like you said, six 4 star and one 5 star guys from HS. He's not beating FCS teams with mostly FCS talent which to me, lestens his record a bit. Imagine a P5 going to CUSA but keeping the P5 recruiting. I'm sure that P5 would dominate similar to Jackson State in the SWAC. You can't coach size and speed. Jackson State outclasses their competition on that front. 

    OK, I understand this.    But what was JSU recruiting like prior to Deion's arrival?   
    Probably a bunch of 2* & maybe a few 3*'s.   

    What I'm saying is that if Deion can pull those kinds of classes to JSU, imagine what kinds of classes he can pull into Auburn.   Probably ripping some recruits away from the other SEC teams he'd be battling.

    Now, imagine those same 5* and 4* guys showing up in Denton to play at Apogee against other AAC schools.

     

    EDIT:    A guy like Anthony Hill, who just backed out of his commitment to A&M might decide to stay close to home & play for Neon Deion.   There are a ton of 4* and 5* guys around North Texas who would love to play for him.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

    Historically speaking, how can someone give back-to-back 9 win seasons at UNT a B-? Especially, when in the prior 3 seasons ('14-'16) our record was 10-27. Grading scale seems off...

    Those FAU(X2), Troy, & USU blowouts were pretty rough, and have likely dulled some of the shine of those 2 teams for many.   I can understand maybe an A- because of those losses.  But yeah, trying to look at them objectively (including historically, as you mention), there's no way I could justify a B grade or lower for those 2 seasons.

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  3. 13 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

    This makes zero sense.  Do you think the players he is getting at JSU would start at Auburn outside of 1 or 2?

    He's brought in 6 4* guys and 1 5* guy over the past 2 seasons at JSU.    So yeah, I think he'd do well recruiting to Auburn & their boosters (sorry, I mean NIL program).

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  4. 8 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

    For argument's sake, lets say a new coach goes 6-6 (4-4), 8-4 (6-2), 7-5 (5-3), 9-3 (6-2), but never makes the conference championship game. Would you want them fired?

    Hmm.   This is an interesting hypothetical.    Because those 8-4 and 9-3 seasons would mean we just barely missed out on the CCG (considering we're about to play in a CCG with 2 losses).   

    In this hypothetical, is there some kind of buzzsaw, ranked team running through everyone like UCF has been doing in the AAC lately?  If so, I wouldn't mind getting beat out by a team like that, making the CCG misses more palatable.   And how is recruiting looking?   Is there a light at the end of the tunnel we can look forward to once a bunch of studs get into the program?

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  5. 2 hours ago, meaniegreenie said:

    I think your answer involves Graham Harrell and Mason Fine.

    As @Cr1028 mentioned before, Fine was here during the 2019 train wreck.

    And he has a really good OC now.  Just as good, maybe better, than Harrell was at the time (remember, the knock on Harrell is his game script was amazing, but once the other team made adjustments to what we were doing... his offenses often stalled).
    Littrell doesn't seem to be the same jovial HC he used to be.  Go back and watch him on some of those old Beyond the Green episodes.    Now, he just kinda walks around on the sideline in his own space.  Rarely goes into a huddle during a timeout.  Not excited to talk about his team to media.   He's just a different person.  It's like he's not enjoying his job like he used to.

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  6. 16 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

    His conference record is essentially the same as Littrell’s and if you look at just Memphis, it is worse.

    The fact that he built Memphis up from the previous era under Porter (obviously going to struggle early on) into what it became under him, then under Norvell after he left (actually building a sustainable PROGRAM) is extremely enticing.

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  7. 5 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

    But this just sounds like you aren’t willing to move off your stance from the offseason that Bloesch had nothing to add as a teacher of QBs since he didn’t play the position. Aune’s footwork has looked much better this year and even the picks have mostly been losing track of a defender, not really due to poor mechanics.

    Look across the NFL and you’ll see a bunch of position coaches who did not play the position they are coaching. Some of the coaches who get credit for being among the best QB developers did not play QB. Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy, Brian Daboll, etc. These guys know what good form and technique looks like, but being able to effectively teach doesn’t require them ripping the ball 60 yards downfield.

    Has it?  I suppose I haven't been watching that closely.     
    Eyeball test tells me he still misses on some easy passes (where he makes the right read, but throws the ball at a receiver's feet, or out of bounds).   He's had some bad drops as well that aren't on him.    Maybe I'm spoiled by Fine & shouldn't expect that kind of play, but I have to think we'd have been much more competitive in those non-conference games, and possibly unbeaten in C-USA play if we had a QB with better mechanics in making throws.    I know part of your argument is that some folks are staring at comp% only, and that's not fair, but on that same token, you can't just ignore it either.
    And Bloesch could be coaching those mechanics... I dunno.  I doubt it though.

    In the end, regardless of WHY, the credit for NT's offensive improvement, and all of Aune's #'s is Bloesch.  Period.

  8. On 11/15/2022 at 2:33 AM, BillySee58 said:

    You refuse to acknowledge any stat besides completion percentage which is the exact mindset that this post is regarding. People aren’t giving Bloesch credit as a QB coach bc they are so dug in on the stance that we should have hired a “real” QB coach. In the same way, you refuse to analyze Aune’s complete body of work and won’t move off of the completion percentage. A completion percentage that, to Bloesch’s credit and the original point of the post, is much improved.

    Aune is still 6th in the nation in TD passes, 20th in passer rating, and 10th in yards per attempt. His body of work this season is solid. You want to ignore everything except his completion percentage, that’s fine. But you’re mischaracterizing the point of the post which is that Aune’s numbers have taken a huge jump and his position coach deserves some credit for it. That was always the point of the post. It was never that Aune is some All-American QB.

    This part is kinda gray for me.

    I feel more like his OC (understanding that his position coach & his OC are the same guy) has schemed to protect him and make safer plays for him, while coaching him to fully-understand that scheme, which elevates those numbers...  not that he's made Aune a better QB, positionally.    More than 1 way to skin a cat, I suppose.

  9. 9 hours ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

    What makes you say this?

    And Neal Brown is probably the closest thing to a "slam dunk" we can realistically get. I can't see a scenario he's brought back at W. Virginia. Look at what Troy was doing before he got there and what they've been in the years since he left. I'm not worried about his time at West Virginia. Sometimes coaches chose the wrong program. See Sonny Dykes and Cal. 

    high five top gun GIF

     

    EDIT:  I feel the exact same way about Fuente, simply because their paths are virtually the same.  The only difference is that Fuente's G5 success came a little before Brown's.    I would not be disappointed with either one.

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  10. 6 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

    Skip. Holtz. 

    I mentioned him. You neglected to acknowledge. 

    There are others. Once UNT starts taking flyers, applicants will pour in and there will be no lacking in qualified candidates. 

    Holtz isn't the only one.   There's literally a gigantic thread with all kinds of "realistic" names.   That I'm pretty sure this guy has seen.

    Dude is myopic and thinks the only way to accomplish what we're talking about is to hire a sitting, winning, G5 or P5 coach off of a school somewhere or something (which, again, WOMACK AT SOUTH ALABAMA has been mentioned).   That is an INCREDIBLY SHORT LIST, and leaves out a ton of well-qualified, proven coaches that have either done it before (Fuente, Herman, for instance).  I have no idea what's going through his mind.

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  11. 5 minutes ago, aztecskin said:

    I always say that it is at minimum to compete for a conference title every 3/4 years or so, and be solid in the "down" years. Beyond that, the good team every three/four years can/should make some noise outside of the conference. 

    Like, 2016/17 -- NT got good a little too quick, was in the title game before they were really a strong team. 2018 they had a *very* good team, that didn't get to the title game. Beat Arkansas but that team *should* have done better in the bowl. B- grade

    2019 through 2021 they were going to rebuild (new QB). I thought NT had the league's worst defense and was embarrassing when on TV. D- grade

    2022 - Seth has a team competing for the title game but was awful in non-conference. Depending on if they win the league/bowl will see if this is a passing grade. Can go from D-to-B+ in my mind. 

    It all boils down to having a program that we are proud of. Competing for a title every three years as a goal, allows the possibility for development and staff changes, and injuries. No one expects us to go undefeated against the SEC, but at least be competitive -- like beating a down Arkansas. (We should have beaten Cal, imho, and definitely the AAC squads this year) 

    I think you're underselling those first 3 years.    I don't think NT got good too quick.   Those guys worked hard and made their own success.   All 3 of those years were A's in my book.   

    I think Littrell lost his right-hand man in Harrell, and just floundered for a while.   Seems he has a really good OC again, but something's still not right.

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  12. 14 minutes ago, untbowler said:

    you will find plenty of very good coaches for under $2 million if the BOR decides to go cheaper. We overpaid for SL, pure and simple. 

    Back-to-back 9-win seasons with a CCG appearance, 3 straight bowls, annihilating Arkansas at their place with the viral Peter Pan play (I don't care how bad they were)...  after the long drought we were in beforehand, it sure didn't feel like overpaying.   That was the going rate if we wanted to keep a coach who was succeeding and being courted by P5s.    I have no idea what happened, but the HC we've had the past 4 seasons has not been the same one from the first 3.

    I don't know about you, but I'd like for the new guy to be at that same level (the 9-win, P5-courting level).  There's no reason why we should go down in pay.   Why do that?

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  13. 1 hour ago, MrAlien said:

    Ideally I would like to see an experienced head coach, has a better then .500 winning percentage, and some recruiting skills.  But lets be realistic, this program has limits to whom it can bring in, and is not going to be able to poach a decent coach away from another school.  More then likely they either bring in a first time head coach, or they bring in a coach that was recently fired. 

    What happens to the rest of the coaching staff and players, how many jump ship? 

     

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    My man,  you cannot be more wrong about this.   

    So tired of the Poor, Lil' Ol' UNT thoughts from several around here.    Those days are long gone.   

    UNT is an attractive, vibrant University with excellent Athletics facilities out the wazzoo, soon-to-be in the preeminent G5 conference, and in the middle of the most fertile recruiting grounds in America.  Not to mention:  We're paying our coaching staff a friggin ton of money.  

    The "limits" on who we can bring in are only those active P5 head coaches who already have jobs.  That's IT.

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  14. 19 minutes ago, keith said:

    FAU curb-stomped everyone that year including a 38 point (69-31) thrashing of us in the regular season, they finished 11-3 and won their bowl game 50-3.  We narrowed the deficit a bit in the title game losing at FAU by 24 (41-17).  While we had a good season, finishing 7-1 in the conference regular season, the gap between FAU and us (and everyone else for that matter) was such that it was going to take a miracle to win that game.  Assuming we take care of business next week and get a rematch, whatever gap there is with UTSA isn't nearly what it was with FAU that year.  

    If I recall correctly, UTSA was limping into their bye week after our game with them, starting DL guys on the OL, and just generally banged-up.   By the time we play them again 12/3, they'll be back at full strength, or at least much closer to it than they were the first time we played.  I'm afraid the gap would only grow.

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  15. 1 hour ago, cousin oliver said:

    I respectfully must disagree.  Brown has been very successful at the G5 level.  He did not fare well at the P5 level but in his defense his location and resources are near the bottom of Big 12 teams.

    Oh, make no mistake, I’m not talking about their coaching acumen being the same.

    I’m talking about the holes they’ve dug for themselves at their respective schools.   Both are pretty much in win-or-you’re-out positions now.

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  16. 9 hours ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

    So its not the same exact situation lol 

    That's a pretty damn big difference

    Oh, I missed this earlier, but yes, in the grand scheme, we’d be stuck in the same place: getting boat-raced in non-conference, then winning in a terrible CUSA.

     Dickey got canned after winning a TON of hardware.  Why was it justified over & over?   “Because the SBC is the worst conference in FBS!  It’s like being the shiniest turd!”  Fast forward almost 20 years and you can say the same thing about CUSA, except Littrell would only have 1 trophy.

    AAC =/= CUSA.  That has been proven pretty clearly this season.  We have to be better.

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