[UNT head football coaching position]

10 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

Here's something that gets lost in this whole discussion.   All college head coaches (and coordinators) HAVE EGOS.  They're just like the 5* kid that commits to OU, even though there are 2-3 other highly touted kids at his same position in front of him.   They believe that they are special and can do what nobody else can.  

Head coaches are no different.   If you showed Kendall Briles (or Scott Frost, or insert your favorite name) this university, with these facilities, with this salary, in this recruiting marketplace...there is a less than 1% chance that coach says "nah, others haven't succeeded so I'm sure to fail too."   

That (bolded) is what makes the world work.

[Can Seth regain your support?]

3 hours ago, PlummMeanGreen said:

I see no path for Seth in Year 6.  

When he turned down the Kansas State job I’m sure a few of us uttered under our breath—“you should have taken the job.”

  I told a fellow alum 2 years ago Seth has no fire in his belly since he turned down the KSU job.  Obviously, I don’t think his good salary or the new Indoor Practice Facility changed that for him, either.  

Trying to remember the last time a UNT HFC left Denton a happy camper.  It’s uncanny to me how there can be a Coastal Carolina & Liberty who show long-standing & traditional G5 schools how quickly all this can be done at a ranked level & then I think of schools who are still stuck in their “100 year plan.”  

 I mentioned to another alum recently that after 48 years of this I’m disgusted by how I feel our school has squandered this athletic program by a comedy of errors-filled poor hirings of too many D2 level talent (from top to bottom) & all that for a school with D1 (FBS) ambitions.  

AD Wren Baker, President Neal Smatresk, the BOR’s, the Loveless & McNatt families & others give many hope.  We have to get the next hiring right, though. This will be Wren’s first HFC hire.  He didn’t do bad with the basketball coach hire. 

🍿

This is probably the best thing written about this mess.

[Can Seth regain your support?]

Well, it would take a spectacular enough next 3 months to forget the last 3 years. But, if all of a sudden he shows the player development, game planning and game management that no one here has seen this year, he would still have to actually win 7 more games to get this crowd behind him.

I actually think the team has some pretty talented players, but the play calling looks like coaching malpractice. If Littrell offered his resignation midseason, UNT football would probably have little to lose by accepting his offer and letting Patrick Cobbs coach the remainder of the season. Little would be expected of him, but if he won 3 or 4 games, who knows?

[This will end college football as we know it]

9 minutes ago, Mean Green Matt said:

Same. And there will be a lot of teams right there with us. We prob still won’t win a national championship though…

I can see a way it could be feasible at UNT, but I don't think anyone here wants to go down to FCS level.

[Disgusted by the SMU Gameday experience.]

The bar for what is acceptable public behavior has dropped so low that one can expect the social media reactions excusing anything short of physical assault. I will say that there have been those on this forum criticizing the profanity directed by the UNT student section towards opposing teams and anyone who has to listen to it.

When I consider that in 1969 I attended the Texas International Pop Festival, along with about 100,000 others, and never saw or heard of any violent activity, and in 2019 attended a commemoration of that event with about 10,000 others and saw a physical assault happen while waiting for a bus after the event, it did make me think about the decline of civility in public during those intervening years (actually getting worse during the pandemic).

Perhaps some of this behavior is alcohol induced, but I think that overall there has been a decline in what people expect anymore. I wonder (hey, all this talk of branding), if the educational system should start considering how to teach common courtesy, if for no other reason, that one who wishes to attain the best positions in government and business may have their behavior be subjected to the kind of scrutiny that searches into job applicants' social media accounts may provide.

At least folks should be reminded of the quality of video recording available in devices just about everyone carries with them these days, which might record behavior embarrassing or dangerous to one's career or freedom. It's not hard for reputations to be damaged to the point of causing one serious harm through this wondrous thing called the internet.

 

[Bulldog fan PLEASE HELP!!! Hate SMU]

27 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

“SMU: Dallas’ team, unless you ask Dallas”

SMU: "Dallas, we're your team".

Dallas: "You're from University Park, not Dallas".

SMU: "But the Dallas Cowboys play in Arlington".

Dallas: : "How about them Cowboys".

[Where's all the WR and TE talent]

I guess this could just as well be a comment in the "short yardage situation" thread, but since we've recruited and are playing tight ends now, it seems like there should be some pass plays designed for tight ends in just those situations, which I would hope could provide some alternative to the "run it up the middle on 4th and 1" strategy which has been seen by us and all our opponents enough times to see how that works. 

[Other Quarterbacks?]

I've liked Kason Martin every time I've seen him making throws. Hey, fire away!

[***Official UNT vs. SMUt Game Thread***]

6 minutes ago, jbchis said:

Shorter had some moments too.  Jackson was bad.  Center was bad.  Weird play calls at key moments.  Ruder was good between 20s but can’t finish a drive

This has been going on for a while now; I remember some bad snaps early on in that bowl game in New Mexico in what, 2018? it just seems like, more than once a season, that Mose can't be counted on to get the shotgun snap placed right. Does he have eligibility after this year?

 

[***Official UNT vs. SMUt Game Thread***]

1 minute ago, TheColonyEagle said:

Why put Aune in now? If Ruder is gonna start next week give him the reps. Doesn’t he need reps?

So that Seth can prove he can change quarterbacks.

[***Official UNT vs. SMUt Game Thread***]

So, down 23 points late in the fourth, keep sending same qb out; you gotta give Seth credit for sticking with his starter. I see a Heisman Trophy campaign for Ruder in his future.

 

[***Official Northwestern State vs UNT GAME THREAD***]

Just now, Danish43 said:

Where do you get the stats on this game. ESPN only shows Gamecast, no game summary, or scoring summary. They were showing some info in the first half but nothing now. Any reason they do this?

As far as I can tell, the internet is broke, and the part with espn is broke the worst.

[Damn! Damn! Damn!!!]

4 hours ago, Hookset said:

I am fully vaccinated. I work as a therapist in a large school district. So I wanted to protect the medically fragile kids I work with. 
Kinda surprised I got this. I am very healthy and rarely get sick at all. 
Go figure…

Thank you for doing all the right things. Hopes and prayers that we'll see you safe and well on the other side of this setback.

[DRC: UNT press conference notebook -- Littrell coy with QB plans, Torrey WR experiment could be over]

3 hours ago, Udomann said:

I believe I read recently that you couldn't cut players in regards to their views, or status, on vaccination. If that's close to true and even done under the radar it's got a huge legal implication.

totally not UNT related, just a thing I heard

I've never seen any concern about "views", but everything I've read says that employers can require vaccination. I don't think that testing protocols can work for anyone what with near proximity within position groups and quarantining anyone exposed. Some of these anti vax players will probably learn soon about how indispensable they are.

This is what I see on the CDC website: "Whether an employer may require or mandate COVID-19 vaccination is a matter of state or other applicable law. If an employer requires employees to provide proof that they have received a COVID-19 vaccination from a pharmacy or their own healthcare provider, the employer cannot mandate that the employee provide any medical information as part of the proof."

[Maryland Hires Former SEC Assistant Mike "Chico" Canales]

Well, it's hard to understand some things, such as, why Locksley ever got hired as HC anywhere after NM, and why he's still HC at Maryland. 

Considering the records of Locksley and Canales, I'm thinking Canales may be angling for another interim HC stint.

[North Texas requiring masks again]

9 hours ago, GBarksdale said:

I have to say that, when you weigh everything, I don't understand all this opposition to getting vaccinated.  Sure it's a personal choice.  Although most people are fine with requirements that children be vaccinated for measles, etc. to attend school.  But what really is the issue with getting jabbed?  The way I see it, the more people who get vaccinated the sooner we can treat this as a bad flu as @SteaminWillieBeaminsaid and move on from masks, social distancing, and the rest of the "new normal" Covid crap.   

Yep, now that would be freedom for the many, even for the deniers.

[Siggers credits God with move to SMU]

So why does he get two threads?

 

[Size Matters: College Football’s Biggest Offensive Linemen of 2021]

15 minutes ago, greenminer said:

Sports science is real.  Not just weight training, but nutrition too.  Seems like there is a visible difference in athletes when you live long enough to see across 20+ years of sports.

My memory is fading, but I recall reading something years ago about the Euless Trinity teams that were winning state titles in the 2000s.  The average weight across those high school offensive lines was more than the same position in the 1980s NFL.  Specifically, it compared them to the Washington teams that were SB champs in the 1980s.

Yes, I remember watching some of those Trinity teams, including the one that won their first state championship. Those teams were "run first", and played mostly out the "I" formation, but that year (2005, IIRC), they were playing for the state championship against Converse Judson, who was stacking the box to shut down the run. They were able to pass enough to pull out that win, but they were never a team, at least during that Steve Lineweaver era, that could come back from being down multiple scores late in the game.

I always wondered if those big O linemen were really very good at pass blocking, especially in the playoffs, where they faced stiffer competition from better balanced offenses. Lineweaver said once that he wanted to have a more balanced offense, but they were sort of a victim of their own success at running the ball. They had some highly successful running backs for a while there, and some of them were small enough to be hard for opposing defenses to see, what with vision being obscured by those big "hogs" on the Trinity O line.

I think you can find a lot of college players, even as low as the D3 level, with big offensive linemen. Whether they are quick enough to play at a higher level is another matter. It's good to be big, but big with speed and quickness is better.

 

[The Austin Buffaloes ?]

1 hour ago, wardly said:

The Bills used to play an annual game in Toronto but dropped it because of poor attendance. I doubt Toronto or any other Canadian city would be a destination because of ligation from CFL. Plus, why is NFL playing games in London and not in Canada if they were looking north for expansion or relocation?

I've been to Canada many times for vacation, and have never heard a Canadian say anything like "hey, we'd love to have NFL football replace Hockey Night in Canada". I have heard something like, "hey, get out of here before the next storm hits, so leave right now". That was in May, but wouldn't advise Canada after October for anyone who didn't just love the Texas weather for the week starting on Valentine's Day, 2021.

[Politics + Realignment]

18 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

I wouldn’t mention the word politics or anything related because that’s apparently a major No-No on here. 3 warnings on my end!

 

5 hours ago, Hunter Green said:

As long as we're on the football board, I think we're ok!

As long as it's football politics, I'd think OK. Political football, maybe not.

[We need more gear out here]

I found a great UNT t shirt at the Southlake Costco. I'll post a pic tomorrow.

 

[Why Trautwein left UNT]

On 6/19/2021 at 2:36 PM, GrandGreen said:

After everything that Hope accomplished on behalf of NT, I find some of your views preposterous. 

Sure she is going to OKlahoma to experience the height of big time softball.  How many athletes at NT would leave for an offer from UT or OU?  Hint, probably most of them.  

That is the issue with the current transfer policy, not just the extra year this time; but allowing an one time transfer with no penalty.   It is and is going to continue to let P5's raid G5's at will. 

Back to Trautwein, I think most students know or should know that a graduate degree means more if it a different institution than where the bachelor degree was earned.  

Maybe we should put a lot more restrictions on the HOF, like you have to graduate which would eliminate the biggest name and a lot others.  

Trautwein is and should be a shoo-in for the NT HOF.  It is what an athlete accomplished at NT, and it should not be anything else.  

I think the added value of a master's from a different school than the bachelor's is probably the most unarguable point you've made. Are there UNT programs outside the College of Music which prefer a UNT grad over one from almost any other university? Other than for programs in which we have led, such as emergency management, I doubt there are many.

[DRC breaking news (updated with story) -- Charges against Wallis dismissed]

Just looking at the Google results for a search on "Tate Wallis", there is a DRC story titled "Tate Wallis offered his resignation and we have accepted" attributed to "UNT". I don't think that indicates that UNT owes him anything, much less his old position back. Just because a case has been dismissed in a criminal court doesn't mean that the accused also has rights to employment unless there is something between them and their former employer that amounts to their employment being other than "at will" (subject to termination at the pleasure of the employer).

Honestly, even at the college level, and when the student is 18 or over, the whole thing of a teacher/student "relationship", other than professional, is just a nightmare for a school if it draws public attention (which it probably does only rarely). I'm sure the leadership of UNT was quite happy to accept the "offered resignation". The rights to employment (such as they are) are nothing like the rights of defendants in a criminal proceeding, where the accuser bears the burden of proof. An employer, unless there is something like academic tenure, can hire, fire, or "accept resignation" with no reason given at all.

 

 

[This is gonna be hard]

 

[DRC: Jaelon Darden selected by Buccaneers, snaps UNT's draft drought]

15 minutes ago, RiseUNT said:

Is this the first time @Brett Vito gets to write a positive article about the draft?

11 minutes ago, outoftown said:

Probably. None of us really know what he would do if this became when this becomes a regular thing.

If I can learn to love Tom Brady, maybe some of y'all can learn to love Brett Vito.