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20 hours ago, rojomojo said:I am just trying to stop this discussion before it goes any further... NO HIGH SCHOOL COACHES... PLEASE GOD NO....
Here are a few who got their start at the HS level.....
Nate Oats - Currently at Alabama, had them at number 1 in the country for a long time this season
Selections from this article in 2017: https://www.maxpreps.com/news/SuBASnpx6UyIEI7WElL_IQ/ncaa-tournament-2017-tourney-coaches-who-also-coached-high-school-teams.htm
Mark Few - Gonzaga
Few took Creswell (Ore.) to the state title game as a senior and then ended up working there as an assistant starting in 1983. He also spent time assisting at Sheldon (Eugene, Ore.) in 1988 while attending the University of Oregon.
Roy Williams - North Carolina
Williams knows more than basketball. While at Charles D. Owen (Black Mountain, N.C.) from 1973-78, Williams coached boys basketball, golf and even freshman football. He was even the athletic director for two years, according to USA Today. Williams is in the Owen High Hall of Fame.
Richard Pitino, Minnesota (Not Papa Pitino at St. Johns)
The son of legend Rick Pitino wasn't good enough to make the roster at Providence College in Rhode Island. So he worked as the team manager and also assisted with the high school program at St. Andrew's (Barrington, R.I.) for two years. According to the Syracuse Post-Standard, he had met the St. Andrew's coach at a camp the year before, and once he settled in at Providence, he picked up the unpaid assistant position.
Mike Brey, Notre Dame (until this season)
Brey stayed at his alma mater and learned under the legendary Morgan Wootten before he moved on to Duke. He spent five seasons at DeMatha (Hyattsville, Md.) starting in 1982, working as the JV head coach and varsity assistant. In his five years helping on the bench, DeMatha went 139-22.
Mick Cronin, Cincinnati (now at UCLA)
Cronin was the JV coach at Woodward (Cincinnati) from 1991-96. He began working with the program when he was a freshman at Cincinnati, as a knee injury derailed his playing career in high school. His father Hep Cronin was a high school coach in the Cincinnati area who won more than 400 games.
Frank Martin, South Carolina (now at UMASS - we lost to his K-State team under JJ, I was there!)
Martin had an established high school coaching career in the Miami area, and according to an ESPN story, he worked as a nighttime bouncer at clubs, took classes during the day and coached in the afternoon. His stops included JV head coach at Miami (Fla.), then head coaching stops at North Miami (Fla.) (1993-95), back at Miami (1995-98) and then Booker T. Washington (Miami) (1999-2000). His time at Miami High included three state titles (last in 1998), though one was stripped for violations.
John Beilein, Michigan (coached the Cavs in the NBA and now a Scout for the Pistons)
Beilein coached three years at Newfane (N.Y.), two as the head coach. He was also a history teacher before moving on to the junior college ranks. His tenure there lasted from 1975 to 1978.
Greg Gard, Wisconsin (don't like him but here he is)
Gard's story of how he got into coaching basketball is one of right place, right time. He had been cut from his college baseball team and was looking for jobs in the local weekly newspaper when he found an ad looking for a JV basketball coach at Southwestern (Hazel Green, Wis.), according to this ESPN article. Gard got the job in 1990 and stayed at Southwestern for three years before adding on one more year of high school experience as an assistant at Platteville (Wis.) for the 1993-94 season.
Tom Izzo, Michigan State (THE MAN!)
Izzo coached the 1977-78 season at Ishpeming (Mich.) and turned around a losing team. The Hematites went 16-7 that year and took a league title under the 22-year-old Izzo, who rankled some parents by instituting two-a-day practices.
Dan Hurley, Rhode Island (THE GUY THAT JUST WON THE THING!)
The son of the Hall of Fame legend Bob Hurley spent a season as an assistant with his father at his alma mater, St. Anthony (Jersey City, N.J.). Then he set off on his own path and started a dynasty at St. Benedict's Prep (Newark, N.J.), losing just 21 games in nine seasons.
Bruce Weber, Kansas State (dude was good at K-State, got the short end there)
Weber was a volunteer assistant at Madison University (Milwaukee) and then was a varsity assistant at Marquette University (Milwaukee) according to his Kansas State bio. His bio from Southern Illinois states that he was a head coach from 1975-79 at Marquette University High.
Chris Mack, Xavier (hosed at Louisville)
Mack was a very successful coach in Cincinnati in the girls' ranks. He was the JV coach at McAuley (Cincinnati) for two years, leading the squad at the all-girls school beginning in 1993. In 1995 he moved on to become the head coach at Mount Notre Dame (Cincinnati), and a year later he was named the Cincinnati Post's Coach of the Year. According to CBS Sports, Mount Notre Dame was 7-14 when he showed up and immediately moved to 19-4 in his first season.
Kevin Keatts, UNC Wilmington (no longer there)
Keatts didn't exactly work in a traditional high school setup, and his success was hardly traditional, either. In two stints from 1999-2001 and 2003-11 at Hargrave Military Academy (Chatham, Va.), he won two national prep championships and finished second three other times. Six different times his team finished with one or zero losses, and nine of his former players reached the NBA during a tenure that saw him go 262-17. He was an assistant at Hargrave for two years before taking over, and his break in between stints was while he was an assistant coach at Marshall. His success there earned him an assistant's job at Louisville with Rick Pitino.
Pat Kelsey, Winthrop (Just signed a GM-style extension at COC)
Kelsey began his coaching career at his prep alma mater, Elder (Cincinnati, Ohio), from 1998-2001 as an assistant coach under former Xavier guard Joe Schoenfeld.
Tim Cluess, Iona (honestly clueless as to where is now but here's tis)
Cluess coached at St. Mary's (Manhasset, N.Y.) from 1991-2005, becoming a local legend. His record was 264-78 (.772 winning percentage) and St. Mary’s won a record eight consecutive Nassau-Suffolk Catholic High School Athletic Association titles from 1998-2005. His final season saw the Gaels go 25-1 and spend considerable time ranked No. 1 in the country.
Paul Weir, New Mexico State (Dr. Weir now - AD at ENMU)
Weir did his prep work north of the border. He coached Don Bosco Catholic High in Toronto to a 41-32 mark over from 1999 through 2003.
T.J. Otzelberger - UNLV
Otzelberger got his assistant coaching start at Catholic Central (Burlington, Wis.), reaching the head coach and athletic director positions in 2003. According to the Journal Times of Racine, he was selling telephone equipment and earning his Master's degree in business when his old high school coach called and asked him to come help at a practice. Otzelberger got hooked and led the JV team for two years before moving up to the varsity spot.
LeVelle Moton, North Carolina Central
Moton got his first coaching job in his home city, beginning his coaching career at Sanderson (Raleigh, N.C.) in 2004. He took a struggling program back to respectability, including a campaign that set the school record for wins. In three years he went 59-25, won back-to-back titles in the CAP 7 Tournament and reached the final four in the NCHSAA Eastern Region.-----
Hard to hate on the HS guys - every college/pro guy who's been around a minute knows that some of the best coaches in the game are at the high school level. There are many reasons guys go the high school route to start out with or stay there, doesn't speak to a lack of coaching ability or desire.
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11 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:
The cool thing about this potential "partnership" is that UNT already has an arena like this planned. We have the space for it, and it's in a more prominent placement, closer to the heart of the city, than up at Rayzor Ranch.
So if the City of Denton would like to have a basketball arena double as a space for rodeos, large convention gatherings, concerts, etc... They can jump in on our existing plans and make it work.
They can jump in on our existing plans and make it work....
(I agree 💯!)
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Watching the game, and Fran Fraschilla just said, "I have a feeling I'll be seeing a lot more of him (Grant McCasland) very soon" - Fran's primary duties are calling Big 12 games for ESPN; very hard not to read into that as Mac going to Tech..... Unless Faschilla's been hitting the sauce already, it is Vegas, after all, but that was quite a thing to say from someone who is very much in the know on these things.
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7 hours ago, Glory to the Green said:
I tried to find one for North Texas, but wasn’t able to find an easy to use one pager.... Like others have stated, it feels like our branding could use work.
We've had a style guide for a while, and now it looks like we have a more comprehensive identity guide, here's a link to it:
https://identityguide.unt.edu/
It has been a standard requirement for all departments/entities/organizations to follow the guide for uniformity and consistent messaging.
If you look around, you'll see it's pretty comprehensive and easy to navigate:
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2 hours ago, p_phelps said:I never care what my kickers think.
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49 minutes ago, Stix said:
Expect it.
Without a doubt, no question the easiest scout work a GA will ever have to do or that has ever been done in the history of scouting in college football. They probably had it cut, clipped, and charted before midnight last night.
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59 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:
I wonder if we’ll get a lecture about doing our part from the AD to fix that pathetic attendance
I don't think this plays well today, anywhere. Between a self-righteous generation of students who loathe authority would be "offended" and perceive it as "being told what to do," hell, might even be the catalyst for a protest lol, it's a temperamental generation. To the folks who will say, "we were there for the SMU game, call me when you've got a real football team on the field" - anything along the lines of "please show up" from the AD I think backfires and has the opposite result.
And it probably should, this isn't a time to look outward for an answer on attendance but inward and the message from low attendance is: "it's not worth showing up for."
WB can't pass the buck on this one, but I for one and encouraged by the fact that I think he knows this and is taking the lumps now, taking accountability, and knows it's his job to make a move that fixes and it's an internal/personnel move.
I think he "gets it" from that stand point, so any message on attendance in the from of "show up" would reflect poorly on him and expose the fact that he doesn't think the DEPT has a problem to solve but that YOU the fans have a problem; I respect accountability and I think he's an accountable leader from that standpoint.
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5 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:
Sadly, I still think we’d have the usuals clamoring for his dismissal. They’ve totally lost the plot.
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51 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:
This is insanity. Just for arguments sake, let’s say we win out and finish 10-3 with a conference championship. You’d still be demanding his firing? That would make us the laughing stock of CFB and would convince every quality coach not to come here.
Coach on the right led a team to the Conference Finals, was named Coach of the Year and was fired after seven seasons.
Coach on the left, took over for the coach on the right, led the same team to the Championship the next year and won Coach of the Year, in his first season.
Everything is unprecedented until it's done for the first time, the key is knowing when it's the right time.
Now (yesterday, the day before, end of last year) is the right time for a change at the HC position at UNT.
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25 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:20 minutes ago, Udomann said:
This is now my favorite song. Thank you.
My wife may leave me. But that's a risk I'm willing to take
Sang this instead of saying "no" for a month straight when I first heard this and pissed everyone off around me 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they knew it was coming, I couldn't resist, I can't sing, and I didn't care.....Love it!!!! Bishop Bullwinkle blessed us all with this diddy #RIP
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4 minutes ago, peanuts104 said:
I would rather die then have Tom Herman as our coach.
That brings that list down to 46 to choose from, with more noted/discussed/debated in that thread of 400+ posts which started after this season started....
You didn't butit was implied by the OP that SL is the only best choice to be the head coach at UNT, I respectfully disagree and re-shared a crowd-sourced list of alternatives, compiled by the GMG faithful.-
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5 minutes ago, peanuts104 said:
If you disagree, please name realistic alternatives.
I disagree and since you asked, first, here's this:
On 9/4/2022 at 9:25 AM, jtm0097 said:This is inevitable, changes will be made after this season. Let's get a jump start on coaches we might be interested in.
1. Tom Herman
2. Graham Harrell
3. Doug Belk
4. Chad Morris (doubtful choice but he has coached in the AAC)
5. Jason Garrett (jk we already have a .500 coach that doesn't give a damn on the sideline)
Edit to add names from the posts:
6. Colby Carthel
7. Gary Patterson
8. Justin Fuente
9. Barry Odom
10. Kendall Briles
11. Jeff Lebby
12. Scott Frost
13. Neal Brown
14. Alex Golesh
15. Matt Mattox
16. Matt Mumme
17. Garrett Riley
18. Jeff Grimes
19. Skip Holtz
20. Mike Yurcich
21. Kevin Sumlin
22. KC Keeler
23. Bo Davis
24. Kellen Moore (he will be unemployed very soon)
25. Mickey Joseph
26. Darrell Dickey (we want Buick 2.0)
27. Bob Stoops
28. Eric Morris
29. Patrick Cobbs
30. Deion "Prime Time" Sanders
31. Jamey Chadwell
32. Bill Clark
33. Joe Gillespie
34. Dino Babers
35. Sean "Old Man Lee Harvey Oswald" Peyton
36. Bobby "hide the motorcycle" Petrino
37. Ron Roberts
38. Sean Lewis
39. Sherrone Moore
40. Andy Kotelnicki
41. Bronco Mendenhall
42. Jim McElwain
43. Ryan Walters
44. Shawn Bell
45. Curt Cignetti
46. Blake Anderson
47. Matt Rhule
And for even more realistic alternatives, see the following thread:
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6 hours ago, emmitt01 said:
No.
That is the answer to your question…everything else is just noise.
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15 minutes ago, Andrew said:
That’s all I got 😕
I love the "oh yeahhhh" in the beginning - not sure if that's about the game or the guy getting taken out but that's good stuff haha!
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18 minutes ago, 19GMG said:
Team up by 17 about to move to 3-0 in conference and y’all still bitching 😂😂😂
Always root for the win, still don't change a thing...... SL still out the door..... Yes it's possible for people to do both.... Especially when both teams are in the bottom quarter of FBS football.... go on with the "whatyathink about SL now" posts/threads..... happy for the players, doesn't move the needle at all on SL.... Happy for the W but more than able to keep things in perspective.
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Still haven't filled the Assistant Athletic Director Digital Broadcast and Multi-Media (https://jobs.untsystem.edu/postings/64938) but audio/graphics already better than last time, so that's a plus to go along with the two sacks!
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11 minutes ago, NT91 said:
What’s the score?
Just started - UNT Kicking off to LA Tech to start.
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I'm excited for two things that are hot right now IMO. Nothing groundbreaking here just what I'm excited for.
I'm looking at the D/Secondary, specifically the recently much hyped (well-earned hype) RIDGE TEXADA to get us a pick today.... A pick 6 from the defense balances out what we've come to expect from Aune all-to-often.... Looking for that and can't deny that Wildcat series where we just punched it down the field was a nice change up, I say dial it up until they stop it or save it for the second half if needed so they can't scheme against it at half....
RIDGE TEXADA TAKE FLIGHT!!!
Stone Earle Sighting Would Be A Bonus
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Any updates on Stone Earle?
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1 hour ago, letsgiveacheer said:
I make my little comments but I swear, where is the end to this?
On the bye week, instead of keeping my ear glued to the Varsity app and listening to the game, I went to see the nearest college football game I could find, which happened to be in Danville Va; the Averett Cougars vs the Randolph-Macon Yellow Jackets. A ODAC D3 showdown! I had no allegiance to either team other than a former president of Randolph- Macon was a roommate of my father at William and Mary. Both schools have enrollments of less than 2,000.
I had a great time. The stadium was overflowing, there were at least 50 tents up for tailgating, and everyone was really into the game.
As I see coaches who are paid more than the president, ever-expanding AD staffs, and athletic programs that are propped up on the backs of students, I have yet to see a justification for any of this. Forget about "athletics being the window of the university" because this is just not true for G5 schools like us.
I have posted something like this before, but one day, some smart president is going to wake up and ask themselves what is the point of all this? As I saw on Saturday, a true college game-day experience can be had without this craziness.
PS. In case you are wondering, it was a blow out with RM winning 55-7.
Do you think the same excitement/game day/experience etc. could be had in the Spring at UNT?
There's a small group of people working to put together a Spring Season college football league in Texas, major schools plus three without (TAMUCC, UTA, UTRGV) and UNT is in consideration as one of the potential teams.
Essentially it would be all non-scholarship, graduate-transfers allowed, 52 man roster, limit of 10 players who were on D1 rosters in the fall and 10 JUCO transfers. One notion is that starting seniors across the country could use it as a platform/showcase for NFL teams if their stock isn't high in the draft or seniors injured early in the season have a place to play out there would-be senior season, D2 studs etc..... (lots of scenarios that equal high-caliber talent propping up the performance on the field)
The league is fully funded, zero out of pocket costs for schools or players, coaches salaries set and paid out by the league, equipment and transportation costs covered, schools provide practice facility and home field.
Single-entity, revenue-sharing model, players have the ability to co-brand and earn money through NIL (jersey sales, tshirts, etc.)
- 10 Game Season, Single-Elimination Playoff Tournament
- Streaming Partner/Playoff TV Contract/Sponsors etc.Texas only D1 schools - Texas for example would play at their 20,000 seat soccer stadium not DKR..... I imagine there would be a push for UNT to play at Apogee if they were to be considered.
That's not everything but enough to get the idea......
Restricted recruiting territory
First year expectations for each team are a minimum 1,000 paid fans per game @ $10 per ticket
Home field must allow for alcohol sales
Opportunities for student orgs to work concessions for share in profits--------
My two cents was that UNT could and would support it but that it runs the risk of taking away from the FBS team (the league rules are more like you've seen with the AAF and XFL with a sped up play clock and is heavily geared towards the offensive side of the ball for high scoring games and excitement).
Not sure what you all think but this post made me think to ask, would you support something like this?
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Nothing out of the ordinary thus far, an unintentional tease perhaps as it was on the the back of a retweet to promote the article..... His first article of the day says this about North Texas:
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is the best thread I've read on here since the season started!! Crying laughing emojis for all!
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5 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:
Talent is good, but the team needs to improve to he considered good.
I hate to be cliché with it but if you apply the old saying:
"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
Then if you believe that we have talent, what's getting in the way? Or are we not talented enough? Is that talent not being pushed or motivated? Coached up?
I think it's a multitude of things but I mentioned this on another thread, to me it speaks then to the culture which SL has had seven years to put in place and build upon. Results are still unfavorable.
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21 minutes ago, Dannymacfan said:
Am I the only one who feels this way?
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Merch @ TBT Tournament?
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I got my tickets to the TBT Tournament game in Louisville - does anyone know if they were selling Bleed Green merch at the tournament site in Lubbock? Hoping they were and, if so, will probably be doing the same either way in Louisville.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated - thanks!