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  1. Nobody was getting fired for making a bowl during a COVID year. If UNT goes 4-8 in 2020 with normal life circumstances maybe you let him go. But we were one of the best offenses in college football last year and made a bowl during a pandemic. There's just no justification for letting a coach go with that at the time.
  2. His current contract expires after 2022. He makes $1.2 million a year. We can afford to get this dude back in Denton and pay him handsomely to get NT into the limelight. He has been nothing but successful as an offensive coach and he knows how to develop talent. 2009 - Oklahoma State (Offensive quality control) - 28.4 YPG, 367 YPG. Nothing crazy, but still notable. 2014 Washington State (WR coach) - 477 passing YPG (1st nationally), 3.8 passing TD per game (T-1st nationally), 3 of the top 33 WR's in CFB in touchdowns per game 2015 Washington State (WR coach) - 389 passing YPG (1st nationally), 3.2 passing TD per game (5th nationally), 2 of the top 15 WR's in CFB in touchdowns per game 2016 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - gonna redact 2016 as it was a rebuilding year and we went back and forth at QB. 2017 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - 35.5 points per game (2nd in CUSA/19th nationally), 456 YPG (2nd in CUSA/24th nationally), 6.2 yards per play (2nd in CUSA/32nd nationally) 2018 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - 34.6 points per game (2nd in CUSA/28th nationally), 460 YPG (2nd in CUSA/20th nationally), 6.2 yards per play (3rd in CUSA/28th nationally) 2019 USC (OC/QB coach) - 32.5 points per game (3rd in Pac-12/35th nationally), 454 YPG (2nd in Pac-12/20th nationally), 6.5 yards per play (2nd in Pac-12/15th nationally) 2020 USC (OC/QB coach) - discounted because of COVID but USC was still top 50 in YPG and points 2021 USC (OC/QB coach) - as of Oct 18 USC ranks 27th nationally in YPG at 448.2, 42nd nationally in PPG at 32.2 and 41st nationally at 6.1 YPP. He can't stay sitting as USC's OC forever. He's clearly succeeded offensively everywhere he's been. Guys he was linked with here (Joel Filani, John David Baker, Tashard Choice) were all great position coaches and have high regard and respect. He (and those he would bring) has Texas roots and can establish a legacy here. It's a low risk, high reward situation for both schools. Graham Harrell is far and away the best choice to coach North Texas into a new era of conference realignment and success. Disagree? Debate a wall
  3. He's had years? Seriously? So you're saying we should have fired Seth after 2019, fresh after back to back 9 win seasons? Should we have fired him after making a bowl, yes even despite the circumstances, in 2020? When exactly during the last six years do you think it would've behooved Wren Baker to fire the head football coach? Genuine question. You are correct that we shouldn't have expected much from SL this year. That is true. We're going to lose games regardless. This team isn't doing anything much better than 2-10/3-9 at best. As I stated in the OP, Wren has a history of carefully choosing the right avenues of success for literally every sport at NT. There is no track record of him failing at football leadership here or anywhere during his career. Give him a chance to play his cards and get the train back on the tracks, and if he doesn't, then criticizing WB is valid. Right now it is not.
  4. This is literally the most important point of the entire post. People just downvoting me because they're mad we're losing. I forgot Wren Baker was our offense quality control coach. Christ. You have to literally convince some fans that WB didn't hire Littrell. He hasn't made a football head coaching hire. It's ridiculous how quick people are to jump the gun and blame him before he even gets the chance to fix things.
  5. Huh, did my math wrong then. Even then, the success of our athletic department outside of football speaks for itself.
  6. Since September 22, 2018, North Texas's longest win streak is 2 games, a feat they have accomplished a mere 3 teams. Since September 22, 2018, North Texas is 14-23 with three 2-game win streaks. That's it.
  7. Hilarious that he says "We're not going to lay down and give up" when that is exactly what the team does every week in the first half. 35-12 loss to SMU 30-0 halftime deficit to UAB 24-0 deficit to LA Tech in the first half 31-7 halftime deficit to a very meh Mizzou team 42-7 halftime deficit to a very average Marshall team Did the team not "lay down and give up" when they lost the 2017 CUSA championship by 24? Or the 2017 NOLA Bowl by 20? Or the 2018 NM Bowl by 38? Or the app state bowl by 28? Did the team not "lay down and give up" when they trailed 34-7 to SMU at halftime last year? Did the team not "lay down and give up" when they lost by 21 to Houston in 2019? Or when they lost by 35 to Louisiana Tech the same year? All this team does is lay down and die.
  8. Seriously. Enough. Just because Seth isn't winning, don't blame his boss. Every single sport at UNT that is school-sponsored has won a championship in CUSA since Wren took over except for football. Is football the most "important"? Yes. But he has given us a new practice facility, top of the line uniforms, MASSIVELY improved the Apogee gameday experience. Stop blaming Wren Baker for extending Littrell after back-to-back 9 win seasons. Anyone in WB's shoes would've done the same thing. That was not a stain on his tenure here. Seth Littrell is going to be gone very soon. The team is only going to get worse if we fire Seth mid-season. They're going to lose regardless. It makes no sense financially or for team morale to can a head coach midway through a season. None of the candidates who we could hit a home run with are going to abandon their teams mid season. We all want better. We all expect better. I'm tired of seeing people saying Wren is a bad athletic director. He's one of, if not the best, among G5 ADs. There is absolutely no reason to assume he won't take care of the football program and get us steered straight in the very near future, but please can it with the "I'm not going to the game because of Wren Baker" garbo takes.
  9. It is objectively a good job. We could go 0-12 for a decade straight and it would still be a good job. Massive tier 1 university in DFW with a healthy alumni base. Proof that people care about us when we're good. Rich history in our own way. Relatively new stadium. The same things that are going to save us through this conference realignment are what make the job "good"
  10. The AAC, MWC and Sun Belt all have mega million deals with ESPN for broadcasting. CUSA doesn't. That's the only pro that matters. Get into a conference where people can watch our games.
  11. Too bad we have a coaching staff that doesn't know how to prepare for games. Marshall 34 UNT 13
  12. This team could give up 31 more and I’ll still be in my seats Friday night.
  13. Any coach that is 1-5 (we are not winning Saturday) in year six should be gone. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are. It doesn't matter if it's at North Texas, North Texas School for the Blind, or Alabama. 1-5 in year six is unacceptable. I want SL the person to succeed. SL the coach has not and we need to move elsewhere, quickly.
  14. Man, if only there was a third string QB who could've gotten some playing time in one of our 3 blowout losses (Yes, LA Tech counts as it was 24-0 in the second q) Man if only there were more than two options Man
  15. I have to imagine I piss off so many old heads by just existing. My first three UNT home games as a student/fan were a blowout over Lamar, the UAB last second thriller, and the Drive - during which I fell down three rows of seats in the student section and sprained my arm.
  16. Unfortunately true. And I get it. I've only been a fan for five years. I didn't attend UNT until fall 17 so my tolerance is not built up like a lot of people's. Lol. But yeah, purely through an objective lense, I dont know how you look at WB's tenure here and complain. He did extend Littrell in summer 19 but it was after back to back nine win seasons.
  17. Man that's how it is across the board in college football. The reason SEC stadiums are full of 80-100,000 people week in/week out is because their opponents are the top teams in the entire sport. Western Michigan or Toledo could go 12-0 and MAYBE get 20,000. We get 20,000 just for showing up and scheduling good opponents. If we win, attendance skyrockets. Again all of this boils down to winning. Wren Baker's job is to produce winning athletic teams. During his tenure, our soccer, men's basketball, women's basketball, cross country, softball, volleyball, women's golf and men's golf teams have ALL won championships. The red flag is that football has not. And he knows it. As I said in my OP, the most likely scenario to happen out of all of this is that Littrell is relieved of his duties, possibly at the end of this season depending on how further we continue to sink. And yes, we can afford to make that move. If that happens, Wren Baker is in charge of who replaces him. He hired Grant Mac and that hire got our men's basketball team to heights it has never seen. He has overseen massive overhauls to our athletic facilities, uniforms, gameday experiences, and many more that we as fans can't take for granted. He is an EXCELLENT athletic director. SL being an overpaid, unproductive HC does not eliminate the New Denton narrative. This isn't the UNT of old and I for one choose to have faith we're going to get results and quickly the minute SL is gone.
  18. As recently as 2019, we sold out Apogee at 2-2 with a blowout loss to SMU and a loss to Cal. Playing teams like Houston helps. Playing teams like Memphis, Baylor, and Texas Tech over the next ten years helps. Obviously we need to start winning, but I think my larger point is that WB knows his next football hire has to be a home run, and based off his excellent track record here so far there's no reason to assume it won't be until it isn't.
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