BillySee58

So much for wanting to stay home close to his family being a big advantage. http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2014/04/unt-recruiting-target-series-clay-holford.html/

Darn. I liked his game. Not the fastest guy, but you don't have to be at middle linebacker. I still think we need an inside linebacker this class. A guy with some size to go along with our smaller, speedy linebackers. When these guys get to campus we'll have just 2 scholarship inside linebackers in Fred Scott and Anthony Wallace, who will be a junior and senior respectively by then. We'll see.

6'4" 290 lb defensive tackle from Coffeyville CC in Kansas. Was very highly recruited out of high school, likely at Coffeyville because of grades. Originally from Florida. Highlights: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3823324/bobby-leath JUCO: http://northtexas.scout.com/a.z?s=353&p=8&c=1&nid=7833807 http://sports.yahoo.com/iowastate/football/recruiting/player-Bobby-Leath-159662 High school: https://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Bobby-Leath-138885 http://247sports.com/Player/Bobby-Leath-21031

Added an Illinois offer

Exactly. It's not just the big schools anymore that get commits during the spring and summer. And yes 90, other schools are proving that we may be behind the curve in recruiting and it's not just because we aren't in a big conference or that we haven't had a lot of success on the field lately. Still plenty of time. Just a little disappointing, like you said. No need to be in panic mode. FWIW: Vito says we may be getting a commit after this weekend is over. Not sure if that's speculation or if he knows something. http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2014/06/friday-afternoon-notes-satellite-camps-to-wrap-up-unt-hoops-visitors.html/

You make it seem like out of state schools don't recruit Florida. All of the SEC schools recruit Florida, as well as the ACC, and schools all across the country. That creates more tiers. Either way, those tiers are not end all, be all. I'm not saying I was expecting us to be outrecruiting Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, and schools like that. Our coaches have more to pitch now and perception has improved. It's not night and day different, but we were all hoping for improvement in our recruiting. Even Coach Mccarney has said so. But, to this point, we haven't seen that. Look at the offer lists of the players committed to those schools I mentioned. You'll see some players committed with no offers, a few other lower-tier offers, and kids with P5 offers. But which schools have offered those commits is not the most important thing. These schools (FAU, La Tech, West. Michigan, etc) are getting kids to pull the trigger and either not hold out for bigger offers or choose them over bigger offers. If you've been reading Vito's recruiting series, 90%+ of those kids have stated that they will wait out the process. Not saying that we won't have a good class, or that we won't have an improved class. But to this point we still do appear to be behind the curve in recruiting.

Sure you can sway players away from lower level Big 12 or AAC teams. AAC isn't even an AQ/P5 conference anymore anyways. They have better TV exposure and some bigger name schools but if you can really get a kid to buy what you're selling than an offer from an AAC school or a lower-tier big 12 school like Kansas or Iowa State is far from an offer that will completely change the dynamic of that kid's recruitment. Different story if it's with an upper-tier school like Texas or Oklahoma. I agree about the playing time pitch. It has more to do with a team's current depth at that position than how prestigious a team it is. Look across our conference and you'll see teams convincing kids to commit now. Not even necessarily beating out P5 schools for kids early on, but kids with solid offer lists like a kid like Niko Small, who I hope we get a commitment from next month when he announces. Then you've got a school like FAU, who wasn't even in a bowl game. They have plenty of kids committed with P5 offers already. Here's their commitment list. http://fau.247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/Commits La Tech's (4-8 last year) commitment list http://latech.247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/Commits And Western Michigan (1-11 last year) http://westernmichigan.247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/Commits Western Michigan was 1-11 last year in the MAC but they've got a young coach who relates to young players and has been getting it done on the trail. It doesn't have to take 4 straight nine-win seasons for us to see a pick up in our recruiting.

I feel like that'd just result in a repeat of last year's class. We'd have two winning years in our favor, but a lot of players would be already committed or have us eliminates where it'd be too late. I think those factors would cancel out. Again, having a class similar to last year's would be fine. I was just hoping to see us recruiting like the big boys. Not just of the country, but of this conference.

6'6" 305 lb tackle from Marshall. 1st team all district pick last year. We are his first offer. Highlights: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1777044/chett-munden http://247sports.com/Player/Chett-Munden-32634 http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/189089/chett-munden

6'2" 276 lb (Sparq verified) guard. Plays right tackle for his school. 1st-team all district pick last year. We are his first offer. Highlights: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/384160/abdul-laeef-beecham http://247sports.com/Player/Abdul-Beecham-34778 https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Abdul-Beecham-151626 http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=7405073 http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/197218/abdul-laeef-beecham

We will likely end up with some good players and a solid class, but this is very disappointing. Late July-early August was when our big string of commits came. Until then we only had 2 (who committed in May). So we still have time to get a good class like last year, but we wanted to see a noticeable improvement in our recruiting because of our breakthrough season.

Not trying to sound like an organ head, but it's not exactly going out on a limb saying Goree will play right away. Also, size (weight) is very overrated when it comes to receivers IMO, especially on the outside as GOMG alluded to. That being said, I think Goree has physicality going in his favor. I also think he will be very big by the time he's done here. His body type and muscle type clearly have tons of room for bulk. Not true for every tall receiver. I think he leaves here as our all-time leading receiver. I know that sounds extreme, but I really think it's not when you think about it. We have not benefitted from the major development in the passing game over the last 15 years. It's a very breakable record.

This thread is filled with people reading and interpreting others posts the way they want to. And once again, apparently you can't be critical of people (players, coaches, AD, etc) without being seen on here as disrespectful and/or ungrateful.

Xavier Turner thinks so.http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/172022/xavier-turner

Pulling the "it's going to take him time to turn this around" card again. Because we weren't coming off 3 straight sun belt title game appearances, or returning all 5 starters including a preseason top 5 overall NBA prospect in Tony Mitchell. Instead he compares this to how Mac turned around the football program. I guess Dodge's tenure was pretty similar to last 4 years of JJ's run.

Last year we had to replace Tony Mitchell and Roger Franklin in the post. Benford's replacements finished 14th out of 16 teams in rebounding margin, in a down year for CUSA. We were able to lean on decent guard play mainly consisting of JJ holdovers. Maybe you weren't a huge fan of CJ. But we're replacing him, Alzee (1000 point scorer), Brandan Walton (always came through in March), and Vertail Vaughns (7.3 ppg and a former starter on an NCAA tournament team), with a bunch of guys who had no other offers. Between our 4 incoming guards, they had a combined 1 offer from a Division 1 school not named North Texas. Todd Eaglin had 0 other offers, Carrington Ward had 0 other offers, Deandre Harris had 0 other offers, and Greg White-Pittman had 1 offer in New Orleans. This could very easily lead to bottom of the conference guards coupled with our bottom of the conference post play. Just sad to see how quickly this program has fallen.

I wonder how often seniors, who have not yet graduated, transfer before their senior season. That's not a product of college basketball.

It'd be even worse if they didn't let him leave. This is really bad.

Exactly. Which leads me to believe he may be walking on. Although it seems strange. He would've counted towards last class if he was a grad transfer coming in on scholarship. Also, it's kind of funny seeing all these freshmen with numbers that are not highly coveted, then Tee Goree has a single digit number. I do expect big things from Tee, but I understand he may need a little bit of time. I just see the guy stepping out and balling from day 1.

I'm not sure about Bean. Haven't heard much about him from Vito or any other sources. If he's eligible to play this season then he's either a grad transfer or he's walking on. If he's coming in as a grad transfer (like Evans) then he should've counted towards last signing class like Evans did in 2013.

Our engineering college's programs. http://engineering.unt.edu/ This kid's recruitment is big for us IMO. He has a good offer list, but no programs that are really ahead of us. Definitely not schools that we should be losing out on Arlington kids for. And two division mates (La Tech and USM). If his offer list doesn't add a gamechanger then we have a great shot at getting him this summer. And he's a 3-star which helps with class perception. As for playing time, we really only really have two free safeties on our roster and one is a senior now (Zed Evans) and the other will be a senior when Small gets here (Freddie Warner). Small could be groomed behind Warner for a year and take over by the time he's a sophomore. Not a sure thing, but potentially a very good situation for him to walk into.

Weird. I could've sworn this was already posted. As for Wallace, yup, Harry's spot on. Phil likes the big school transfers just based on their high school merit. He had Berglund starting last year and was projecting him to give us one of the top 5 most improved passing offenses in the country.

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