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Try to keep up. They are using SMU as a warning to the PAC-2 that they can't just elevate a gaggle of G5's and expect to get the CFP $$$ and autonomous status. The legal argument for not giving SMU the CFP money is hilarious considering the Big 12 added BYU, Cincinnati, UH, and UCF last year and they received their shares. The issue with SMU will get resolved without any issue which has been communicated both to SMU's administration as well as the ACC. Its all about letting the other conferences know the last life raft from the G5 has been taken.

University Park. Put some respect on UP's name!

This is about sending a message to Wazzu/Oregon State that they can't just elevate a bunch of G5's and expect them to keep "P5" status and get the CFP $$$. This has absolutely nothing to do with SMU and will be resolved accordingly. Not the slightest bit concerned.

Its going to be a complete break from the NCAA. The leagues will then effectively govern themselves without the nuisance of the NCAA and its selective enforcement. Everyone knows this is coming. The antitrust case is an interesting one but you'd have to be able to make the case in court that a program like UL-Monroe should effectively be treated the same as Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, UGA, etc. The reality is there is a clear financial separation that is only going to be more pronounced in the very short term. The separation is an inevitability. The only question is when.

Insecurity is a stinky cologne.

There is going to be a split coming in the next 5-7 years. Financially it just doesn't make sense for the G5 schools to keep it up. G5 will be the new D1AA and have its own championship.

How many people had Texas in the SEC in 2011? Who knows what happens in 12 years. Point being that for the next decade plus you can count on the Noles being in the ACC.

LOL. A petty move by the ACC with zero chance of success (but I love it). This is more about sending a message to the other legacy ACC schools that any attempt to break the GOR is going to be litigious, expensive, and exhausting. FSU did this to themselves with their laugh-out-loud worthy lawsuit against the league. They are going to get DESTROYED in court. All of this is folly. FSU will still be in the ACC in 2035.

Not condescending in the slightest. Chandler is a very good addition and should thrive at the AAC level. Just needs to stay healthy.

Chandler is a good kid and super tough. UNT is a great fit for him. Hope he can stay healthy and upright.

Lets see if they have any billionaires hiding under the couch cushions. They don't have the money. Period. And no hedge fund is getting involved. lol.

PITT, BC, Louisville, GA Tech, CAL, Stanford, Syracuse, Duke, WF..... or UNT, UTSA, Rice, Tulsa, UAB, FAU, Charlotte. Its one thing to be willfully obtuse but blindly ignorant is totally different.

It doesn't invalidate the legal argument or filing but it speaks more to the total jackassery and general ineptitude of the counsel. This thing was flung together by a team of monkeys banging a cymbal. Its arguments are laugh out loud hysterical.

When that bridge is ready to cross in 2036 we'll worry about it then but not anytime soon. And if so call up Tulane and USF. Call it a day.

That discovery road goes both ways. FSU doesn't want to get into that. There are already dozens of publicly available statements from the FSU brass praising the agreement in 2016 as being a "historic milestone" and "great for the long-term stability of the league".

They actually kind of are poor (by ACC standards). Endowment is the smallest in the league except for Louisville.

The P5 is history yes. Its really a P2 with the Big 12 and ACC a step below. Ultimately there will be a separation by the members of these conferences from the G5. It is inevitable. Rest of the conferences (including the AAC) will be siphoned off and will comprise the new Division 2.

The ACC suit in NC was filed first. In almost every instance suit filed first takes precedent. The FL case will die on the vine. ACC has four member institutions in NC and is based in Charlotte. FL case will be an afterthought.

LOL. A super majority of members voted CAL/Stanford/SMU into the league. Expansion also provides significantly more money for the legacy members in addition to the creation of a performance pool. Have fun making that legal argument that the membership actively acted against its own interests.

There is also no equivalent to the ACC grant of rights among the Power 5. It was lauded at the time as being a historic achievement in conference stability. No other conference has anything even close to the ACC's deal through 2036 with as many financially punitive ramifications for breaking it. There is no comparison that even comes close.

So many logical errors here but I'll start with an easy one. SMU (as well as CAL and Stanford) are already assured that if the league loses any current member institutions (even one) they become full members receiving a full revenue share. Second, why do you think we haven't heard a peep from Clemson or UNC? They know the game here too. This is, in all likelihood, a multi-billion dollar decision. It isn't just an exit fee as you incorrectly categorize it. It is giving up the rights to your home games and conference TV revenue for 12 years. That money automatically kicks back to the ACC. The ACC holds all the leverage in this situation. FSU willingly signed the agreement (alongside very other ACC member) to grant their rights to the conference through 2036. The document was written in such a way that it would be financially disastrous to try to break it. It is what it is Noles. See ya in Ford Stadium next fall!

Texas and OU paid to leave to go to the SEC for a grand total of ONE YEAR prior to the existing Big 12 GoR in 2025. One year. Those programs are also much more well-heeled than FSU. So if it was a huge financial decision for Texas and OU to leave one year early what do you think the dollar figure will look like for FSU to leave 12 years early?

Yes I'm sure ESPN wants to have the ACC destroyed so that it can lose valuable properties to FOX as well as lose thousands of hours worth of live programming..... Easiest decision ESPN will ever make is to exercise the extension (especially at the current deal which is highly favorable to the network).

Nope. All of this is pure saber rattling by FSU. They know the financial implications of breaking the grant of rights and they're stuck for the next decade. If I had to put odds on it they probably will be in the ACC through 2035. FSU endowment is less than a billion (current market value around $710m, second lowest in the ACC). They are not going to create financial sepukku just so they can sign away their TV rights and home games to the ACC for the next 13 years. Just isn't going to happen.