[We may have seen the glory days of UNT basketball]

This has Benford written all over it. 

[A plea to our "football-only" fans]

12 minutes ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Texas Tech is 71% and Houston 70%.

Yup, and much more recent athletic success. 
 

Cal is always going to have a high base of support because of the quality of the school, no matter how bad the teams may be. 
 

We have minimal athletic success and not many students that want to be here, so where does the school spirit come from?

[A plea to our "football-only" fans]

2 hours ago, Cougar King said:

 

If UC-Berkeley can show up in full force including the walking, talking stereotypes then so can UNT. UNT's problem is that they never won big and gave people a reason to give a damn.

 

 

 

 

UC Berkeley has more school spirit because it’s a school that most of their students aspired to attend and has high admission standards. 
 

We have low admission standards, and are not the first choice school for the vast majority of our students. 
 

Berkeley has a 11% acceptance rate, ours is 72%. 

[What is this program missing?]

A University that produces rich, successful alumni that love sports, hate losing and are willing to spend their money to influence change in the athletic department. 

[CFB TV Viewership: Week 7]

1 hour ago, MeanGreen22 said:

Other fanbases find reasons to watch their team, ours finds reasons not to.

Comparing the viewership numbers to our home attendance, it looks clear to me that our fan base did indeed watch the game. 
 

Maybe questions need to be asked to our school administration about why our fan base is that small. 

["Where Are The Fans?"]

7 minutes ago, DentonStang said:

Do you think SMU just has sports crazy students?

Compared to our student body, yes, no doubt. 

["Where Are The Fans?"]

I’ve been beating this drum in other posts, but the bottom line is that the culture and identity of this university does not attract sports fans. Those students turn into alumni that still don’t like sports, no matter how much winning is going on. 
 

You would think that the administration would be interested in why our alumni are less engaged and less likely to donate compared to other schools of our size, but the answers likely won’t be pretty and go far beyond just wins and losses.  

[Improving the Student Game Day Experience]

13 hours ago, wardly said:

" And the like. " Are you sure you are not a SMU want-a-be? For the unwashed UNT and UTA are the most affordable 4 year choices in the neighborhood. By the by, UNT Frisco seems to be thriving, probably because they are not being pulled down by students from Lewisville, Grand Prairie ,Arlington, Garland and the like.

You’ve hit the nail on the head, our University has far too much in common with UTA. That’s our biggest problem. 
 

As for being a SMU wanna be? If by that you mean having some semblance of admission standards, not just accepting anybody that walks off the street, producing successful, proud alumni that earn tons of money and will use that money to wield influence in college athletics? Yeah, you damn right I’d like some of that in Denton. 

[Improving the Student Game Day Experience]

56 minutes ago, rojomojo said:

In summary, it is hard to get students to a Saturday football game when 80 percent of the student body is back home in Plano or Frisco on the weekend

 

Haha, Frisco? Those kids are going to a P5 or somewhere that has academic standards. We might be getting a few Plano kids, but it’s more like Lewisville, Grand Prairie, Arlington, Garland and the like. 

[NOW can we be honest?]

15 hours ago, Rudy said:

Maybe I'll expand on this later, but:

 

Look, let's be honest. There is a cancer SOMEWHERE within this university. We have the funding, we have the donors, we have a fan base, we have the facilities.  So why is it the same shit every fking season?  Time and time again, we have a big win. Time and time again, we have a chance to break through. Then, we shit the bed. We make a hire, and that hire falls flat. Maybe they will have some success, sometimes it's a string of success. Then SOMETHING happens, and we come crashing back down. Then it's back to the same bullshit, until we've "had enough", and we fire one coach and hire a new one.  It's the same song and dance EVERY FKING TIME.   Only this time, the hire has proven to be a dud quicker than most. Again, be honest, the Morris hire was a big WTF to most of us, but we were willing to give him a chance.  Anyone being objective had, even in the slightest, a feeling early on last year that Morris was giving off Benford vibes.  We all saw the change in Littrell's attitude when he lost out on the KState job. Looking back, he saw that was his chance, and when he lost it, he started getting affected by this cancer somewhere.  We need to take a HARD look at our university and figure out who is this cancer. Who is it that has such a grip on this university that he/she/or they all have. Once we find out who those people are, they are treated like a cancer. You remove it. 

 

Once they are discovered, they have to be removed, whatever the cost, no matter what it takes. 

 

You kill the cancer, before it kills you. 

We don’t have the donors. We have a few donors that have enough money to gain access to the decision makers, but no donors that have enough money to BE the decision makers. 
 

This school hasn’t produced a Boone Pickens or a Tillman Ferttita or a group of donors that bankroll conference re-alignment. We don’t have anybody that hates losing and has the money to do something about it. That’s on the university. 
 

The cancer is the university lowering admission standards, selling a “best value” degree, marketing toward commuters, community college transfers, first generation college students, international students, liberal arts, music and freaks. The one demographic we don’t market toward is the one demographic that comprises 99% of athletic donor money. The school actively tells them to go elsewhere. This school is perfectly fine with picking up the cutting room floor for pretty much every other school in the state. That’s the cancer. 

[DMN: Chandler Morris ‘despised’ football. At North Texas, the TCU-ex is having fun again]

He fits in perfectly at UNT if he despises football.

[An idea to increase season tickets]

I can’t tell if this is serious or parody. 

So what do the people who actually get paid by the AD to perform this job do?

[NIL Event Tonight]

16 hours ago, Pavlovs Eagle said:

 

 

Bingo.

Don't they assume that most Mean Green faithful live and work near the employment centers of Plano, Frisco, Las Colinas, Richardson, Addison, and Downtown Dallas? It takes every bit of coordination to make 7 p.m. basketball games during the week in the winter in Denton when you don't live/work in Denton. I'd need to leave the office at 4 pm to make Bartonville by 6 pm on a weeknight.

The time and the location is the point. They don’t want the DFW working class crashing their exclusive club. 

[Assassination Attempt on President Trump in Pennsylvania]

1 hour ago, Udomann said:

One person is not a hate group.

The unfortunate side effect of one dumbass persons choice is now we have to live under a vengeful dictator for 4 years. I'm not right or left, but this just spiraled an already horrible situation into a much worse place. I'm actually fearful to be American now.

Vengeful dictator? Give me a break. If you’re so scared do us a favor and GTFO. 

[Recent Mean Green Spotlight - DRC]

On 7/3/2024 at 3:03 PM, bstnsportsfan3 said:

“Alumni sit around, talk about making the program better, that North Texas has 270,000 alumni in the DFW area and how we should be at the highest levels of sports,” Herron said. “Then they turn around and don’t do what fans of other schools do, which is support financially. If you want to build it, you have to give.”
 

I agree with this guy and have been saying this for years. Our fans talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. 

The few alumni that actually like football have supported the program at one time or another. No need to keep beating them up. 
 

Problem is that roughly 250,000 of those alumni hate sports. 

[Recent Mean Green Spotlight - DRC]

This school doesn’t market themselves to or attract sports fans or football fans or the type of person that will donate to a program before any kind of sustained success. 

Until that changes…

[Patrick Cobb]

Who?

[2024 Coaching Caravan locales, dates and times announced]

16 hours ago, Matt from A700 said:

You rang?

That picture is enough for any potential donor’s manhood to go into retreat. 

[UNT students join growing number of pro-Palestinian demonstrations at US colleges]

Should have set up a football game nearby. They would have dispersed immediately. 

[The Athletic on DFW Football recruiting]

2 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

And we can bring demographics into this, too. And for good or bad, I don't know; nor do I really care. But conservative white boys/men is the driving force behind the consumption of and donating base to collegiate athletics. The university goes out of its way to diversify the enrollment. Which is fine and all, but it's just another variable pulling away from athletics. And there seems to be a lot of variables, controllable and uncontrollable. Why do you think the SEC can whip whoever they want with money at a moments notice? Answer: White conservative men throwing money at their collectives and scholarship funds. 

Ding. Ding. Ding. 
 

The demographic most tied to athletic funding is the demographic most underrepresented and actively discouraged from attending UNT. 
 

Take a walk around campus at UNT and take a walk around pretty much any P5 school. It’s 2 different worlds. This is exactly why I say things won’t change until we change the profile of the student this school attracts. 

[Another thread about how to increase fan engagement (besides WINNING!!)]

The school administration has to change the profile of the type student they market to. Period. Until then, the "Director of Marketing and Fan Engagement" is going to have an uphill climb.

[I think we will win big today]

54 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

If we don’t win today, I don’t want to hear complaints out of any of you. I don’t expect a team to give their best effort when the crowd is at 300.  
 

It’s AMAZING how so many schools in America can manage to get to a stadium on Thanksgiving weekend.

Take it up with the school administration and the type of student they market this school to.

[34,057]

1 hour ago, Matt from A700 said:

 

Ironically enough, 9 is also the average number of teeth had by those 34,057 people.

And like it or not, those are the type of people who buy tickets and support football teams. 
 

App St. and UNT attract vastly different types of students. Most students who are attracted to UNT are opposed to any outwardly display of testosterone. 
 

As said in previous posts by others, you can’t force somebody to like football, and this school attracts far too many students that hate sports. 
 

[UNT finally changes logo on ESPN]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

"UNT...fixes" - Do the schools control the graphics ESPN uses?

Yes

[North Texas logo is gone?]

45 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

This is a score bug. Most of the time there's not enough space to write out "North Texas." What I think Jared is saying is instead of having "North Texas" shortened to "N.Texas" we'll use "UNT" instead. The logo should just be the Diving Eagle. 

Unless things change this season, every network except NBC has enough room on the bug for “North Texas.” ESPN definitely has enough room, that’s the one that matters now being in the American.  
 

However, on ESPN’s bottom line, their ticker, they have been using “N Texas.”

If the networks aren’t using the logos or wordmarks that the AD would like them to use, then they need to be more aggressive in getting them the right logos. The networks will use whatever the school wants them to use, but some PA in Bristol won’t know if the school wants Diving EagleUNT or just plain Diving Eagle if nobody tells them. They’re making art for hundreds or thousands of teams across all of their properties.