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KFWD (ch. 47) in DFW. (Dish) That game will show our football program progress versus UTSA’s. Buckle up—hope for the best.

Better? In 2014 weren’t we in the Cotton Bowl Stadium in sunny Dallas on or near a New Years Day before the largest gathering of UNT fans ever (approx. 40,000) vs UNLV & our even winning the game? (QB Derek Thompson was superb on that day—Hellsbells! The entire team was)! The photo below was taken at that 2014 Heart of Dallas bowl game, but (of course) we could not sustain that success. Portland State would be soon on the way to Apogee & Denton.

Why? Because they were in the Southeast Conference 50 years ago? Is it truly in a name with some schools & where your school was 50 or so years ago? Well, we’ve been trying to figure out how to run a football program for decades in Denton & one school near & dear to all did it in 1. One might begin to think Fouts & Apogee were built on a Comanche/Kiowa burial grounds or something. I once heard late ex UNT AD Andy Everest say: “If UNT were in Gainesville we’d be far enough from DFW to draw more fans.” So….How long can all this keep happening? Some of us don’t have another half century left. I’ll hang up & listen. 📞

Are most of these OOC future games in the meme below (other than those who are now AAC games) still on our future football schedule? What happened to Covid schedule casualties Texas A&M (a $1.2 million guarantee) & UH? To play more potential or present Top 25 schools makes it easier for our future football program to gain Top 25 if that’s our goal (& I’d think we all still hope it is). Playing unappealing schools who won’t draw flies at Apogee when we start another run of winning will not help us get to Top 25. Ex UNT AD Craig Helwig literally scheduled Matt Simon out of a future as an NCAA FBS HFC with his murderous OOC scheduling so I would think AD Wren Baker needs to find a happy medium for future OOC scheduling.

What’s up with the empty seats? I think SMU destroying us in the first game of the season is (partly) what’s up & then losses to 2 we thought we had a chance with—UNLV & Memphis. NIL & the Transfer Portal (& our mostly non-participation with both) has discouraged many, many fans in the G5, too. Count me in as one of those. SMU at UNT—1’st home game of the 2022 season.

Yesterday, Barry Switzer said (& I very liberally paraphrase): “NIL is going to ruin college football.” Yet, Barry, now that the Genie is out of the bottle how can it be altered to not be as harmful to the NCAA? 🤔••• WOW! While Switzer was sitting on his sofa in Norman having no idea what Jerry Jones was going to do, it is my understanding that he actually inquired about the UNT job after Dennis Parker was fired. Honest Injun’! Can you only imagine…His name would have sold an additional 10,000 season tickets (wishbone or no wishbone). The expansion of Apogee Stadium would have been soon after. GMG!

No rocket science here, but UNT does not have the financial resources of a UT system, TAMU system & Texas Tech system to spread at all its campuses in Denton, Dallas, Fort Worth & now Frisco. For every major financial gift a UNT-Dallas receives is one that will not go to UNT-Denton. State Senator Royce West pulled a fast one on the UNT system & he knows it. Sell UNT-Dallas to a system that has the resources & can afford it. Was it the UNT System that previously had plans for TCU to join in on its UNTHSC at Fort Worth? GMG!

Concerning lopsided all time football series records here is this on the OU vs Kansas State series: OU……….77 wins KSU……..22 wins To quote the great Forrest Gump: ”Stuff happens!” GMG!

There are many “half century & up” MG fans on GMG. I think we would all agree that MG football has not been consistent in winning enough to get a consistent groundswell of support. Yet when the MG have snuck in a few wins, our attendance has been worthy of stadium expansion blueprints. I think back to the 2014 bowl win in the Cotton Bowl/HOD bowl game. With almost 40,000 MG fans there that day, it became our Nirvana. UNT super alum George Derr had the quote of that day saying: “Fellers, I think back to a time when all we Fouts Field fans were on a first name basis.” 😆 We have to plan for a 50,000 enrollment university that most believe with consistent winning will draw many , many new fans. We set an Apogee UNT student attendance record not that long ago. It was a beaut’ to behold, yet it only scratched the surface of what could be. Now we UNT alums & Denton County need to come forward. A season by season UNT winning football program makes all the pieces of our puzzle fit nicely. GMG!

We should know by now that we should never underestimate the La Tech Bulldogs no matter what their present situation would be.

That score shocked me. At Apogee I saw a very smooth-running SMU football team. Wonder if it might be locker room issues?

Did I read less than 1,000 at a recent home game for the Bruins? That scares me for NCAA football in general. I think most who no longer have anger for the Twins leaving pull for them to be successful. I do. I’m not sure NIL money would have kept them in Denton truth be told.

The UNT System should have focused on their main campus in Denton, med school in Fort Worth & law school in Dallas & that’s it. UNT should sell their south Dallas campus to the Texas A&M system & stop fighting their education wars on too many satellite fronts one of which is Frisco. Too many seem to think UNT-Denton must be somewhere in southern Oklahoma. What’s going to happen in Frisco could have easily happened at UNT in Denton. GMG!

I would think some UNT official would have already had the Drummonds in their luxury suite in the past. I wish Ree would do one of her shows from the fine kitchens of Apogee Stadium.🙂 She has spoken kindly about UNT (with photos) in one of her publications. I’ve watched Ree’s TV show on several occasions & she’s good at what she does, but I still burn water when boiling. Mr. Ladd Drummond ‘s bio… His ranch is humongous. One told me it was easily the largest in Oklahoma. Ladd is an Arizona State alum. https://wealthygorilla.com/ladd-drummond-net-worth/#:~:text=Report Ad-,As of October 2022%2C Ladd Drummond's net worth is,to be roughly %24200 Million.

Especially since we had almost 9,000 in attendance at the Super Pit for the La Tech win last Winter. Among them was this Country Music Hall of Fame inductee & while on that theme—RIP Loretta Lynn.

You & I, Jack, agree on so much (& have now for 50 years). I, too, would love a huge sideline-to-sideline video screen at top center of an End Zone facility. This La Tech rendering below of 2 very large screens I could live with because they are large. Their finished product it appears to me will not allow that to happen, though, so another rendering that has gone unfulfilled? You posted “premium seating” but have you heard how many seats in an Apogee end zone facility?

Agree. I think Bryce has a fan club here on GMG. We should all thank his fellow OK’ee Mason Fine for taking him under his wings & encouraging him. Bryce’s sister Alex & her husband Mauricio’s wedding last year was shown on Ree’s TV show &…..WHAT A WEDDING! WHAT A PRODUCTION!

I’m as big a homer as anyone & many posts I’m looking thru the green-tinted glasses, but watching UTSA in 3 of their 2022 televised games I don’t see our game with them being close at all in the Alamodome. (I hope the 450 member Green Brigade shows for this game), We have talent on our team, but their starters have more game experience & their QB is a game-changer & seems a man with a mission.

La Tech’s facility Reading GMG might make some wonder why we ever left Fouts Field (since we never fulfilled some GMG poster’s criteria of never filling it one time or 5 times or 10 times. My non-UNT football friends in DFW only laugh at us.

MeThinks UNT can (& will), but winning seasons & bowl game wins is essential & is the minimal expectation. I agree with the SMU poster who said no reason UNT can’t annually win 8 games per season. One has told me Wren Baker is the kind of AD who can get the money. (I believed him, but most likely it won’t be next week or next month). I applaud what SMU & Gary Webber are doing at G. Ford because they have set a new AAC standard for stadium expansion. We can whine all we want on this forum (& we will), but UNT now has no choice to do similar if we want to leave the OldDenton stuck in mud mode behind & compete in the American upper echelon. Below is what some in one of the poorest spots in America has admirably done with their stadium. Really bothers me to hear Texans on GMG continually say what we cannot do. UTSA fans don’t seem to do much of that & look (short & long range) where they are headed? (Some of us also like who the RR’s play for their OOC home games the last few years). _____________________________ •••The family portrait pic below the App. State stadium pics has nothing to do with this thread whatsoever, but it just warms my soul to see a smiling & happy family at the Apogee Stadium complex. TV’s Pioneer Woman Gang really look like a fun bunch. Here is App.States Athletic Center & End Zone facility combo.

Might this trend be fine for schools who’ll get $24-$30 million annually from its P5 conference coffers, but for G5 schools not so much since some need good attendance for the all important gate receipts? (Honestly, did UCLA only draw 1,000 fans for a recent game)? GMG!

I’m for any logo or symbol that would usher in a new era of multi-winning seasons. If we’d already been doing that with the expected good attendance (from a 44,000+ enrollment UNT) along with serious stadium expansion talk most likely we’re in the discussion of some P5 conference talk. (No school with 30K seat stadiums or blueprints for an expansion are part of that kind of talk). 🐎 SMU-haters would even have to admit the Stangs have all their cards on the table trying to get into a P5 league. Don’t know what their chances are but if they could buy their way into one I’d say don’t bet against them. The irony of it all is how SMU’s “lights out” NIL program could actually hurt them in that venture. Think about all the present Big 12 schools who could never compete with SMU as far as NIL is concerned? What a double-edged sword SMU’s NIL would be. GMG!

Who was the stud UNT lost to the Jehovah Witness his senior year in Denton which would have been (I think) the 1971/1972 season? Seems his first name was Bobby. *** There were few SWC teams who could beat Missouri Valley Conference teams back in that era. GMG!

I think this was the old coach’s last season to coach the FAU Owls. Funny to me how Coach Schnelly’ thought Fouts Field was quite adequate? 😳😩 GMG!

Living in Georgia would be great if you want to live around a bunch of “Haters” who still have no idea whose butterin’ their friggin’ bread. Wren Baker’s job at UNT is not finished.