SilverEagle

I liked that exchange between Morris and Rogers. (Morris to Rogers) "looks like they left too much time on the clock"..(Rogers winking at the coach) "yes sir they did". WOW! When was the last time we had a QB, who was just put under extreme pressure, tell the coach essentially "Hold my beer.... I got this".

Morris deserves credit for seeing in the FIU game that the real difference between Rogers and Earl was that Rogers is a "game day" QB and Earl was a great practice QB...and then correcting his decision about the starter. I made my assessment of Earl based on his spring practice performance in a couple of scrimmages. Rogers was good in the spring, but still not as good as either Earl or Ruder. "Pure-QB-skills-and-athleticism-wise", Ruder is the best of the three.......but if only Morris could have figured out how to flip his "on" switch. Oh well. Roger's "on switch" apparently is getting in the game and competing. Perhaps Mr. Rogers has the same philosophy as the late Joe Kapp who used to say when describing his job as QB...."I just go out there and pass and kick ass".

When it comes to North Texas vs other programs the word competency doesn't mean the same thing. North Texas is so different from other schools that what a "competent" coach is to OU is not at North Texas. For the Mack Brown's of the world once they fully grasped what the real challenge would be to turn North Texas around, they would say "you can't pay me enough". And that's a coach who had scruples and told you the truth. Others are not so honest and just go through the motions and collect a paycheck knowing that being fired will happen sooner than later. Only North Texas is on the "later" end of the time line. Having a big number already in the budget will make it easier when negotiations begin. First, we will start with a better candidate pool. Second, we may be able to absorb another $500K to $1M bump, but a $1.5M to $2M bump may be harder to sell (at least for a school like UNT). So, in my mind, Morris taking less and Mosely agreeing to it may have tied our hands in the future. Once the realization of what the job really entails hits those candidates, the pool get much shallower.

Welp, that would be a great place to start.

Totally there with you (and others) who have suggested this. At this stage of his career "consultant" would be perfect. And as luck might have it, this is the perfect time to knock on his door. He could go to the La Tech game and write up an assessment of the defense with recommendations. THEN he could come to Denton and help the staff implement his recommendations. We have two full weeks before we play ACC. And that would be a great opportunity to see how well the players and coaches absorb the "suggestions".

Damn! I hope they find the owner.

Unfortunately one of those skills is NOT tackling. I greatly admire your basic decency regarding those young men and their feelings. But I can't get past the image of half of the defense getting their hands on a ball carrier and he doesn't go down......multiple times. I believe that, especially at the college level, if you are on the defensive side of the ball, tackling should not even be a conversation......it should fall into the same category as your heart beating and breathing. Getting to the point of contact as quickly as possible and shoving aside and/or avoiding a blocker and/or using leverage to neutralize the blocker is a skill you should work on.....and perfect. And when you get there, hopefully in a very timely manner, and your hands are on the runner, it should all be over.

When you WAY OVERPAID THE PREVIOUS COACH!

My experience has been that that old adage was coined by some carnival barker selling you overpriced merchandise.....way overpriced merchandise. That's when the equally used old adage (that I'm most fond of) comes into play....."buyer beware". I really don't care how much other schools paid someone to coach. What someone did (or was alleged to have done) somewhere else doesn't apply at North Texas. You can pay anyone a lot of money to come here, and if you didn't properly prepare them for the full challenge they were going to face at North Texas, then two years down the road they will be looking around and saying, "what the hell is wrong with these people?" They probably had completely different players, different facilities, and certainly a different culture where they came from. I often wonder what their sales pitch is in order to get even reasonably upper level talent to come here.

Well, one attempt by Hayden Fry to, as he put it, "change the culture of losing" at North Texas was the Flying Worm logo. It disappeared for a while but has made a comeback.....as well it should. It is probably the only unique symbol/logo in the school's history. It almost disappeared because the administrators who hated Hayden Fry wanted nothing to do with anything Hayden Fry.......including that very unique symbol/logo. Ask around. Who is in charge of promotions? Who is in charge of the spirit groups. Who is in charge of making sure that our traditions and/or symbols (few as they are) of our traditions (cannon, model-T) are always well maintained and always visible to the student body at sporting events?

Would that include a diving bat on the helmet? Now that would be pretty cool.....😎

Welp, I was not impressed with Rogers in the spring scrimmages, but obviously he's one of those "game day" players. And that's what really counts.

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you about Mosley. From my reading about his professional history, he appeared to be the best AD candidate because he had (or should have had) the best perspective about North Texas and how to go about turning things around here. I was disappointed that he didn't hire Carthel. Carthel is another fellow West Texan who came from a very hard-working family with a long history of coaching.......in West Texas. In fact I wanted his dad (Don) to be hired to replace DD instead of Todd Dodge. Don Carthel would have gotten out in the community and sold his program.....Hayden Fry style. Instead, we hired the (somewhat) brilliant but aloof Todd Dodge. When Dodge was finally fired I still wanted them to hire Don Carthel instead of McCarney. Don Carthel was no spring chicken at that time, but he would have been a much better selection than that old worn out war horse of a coach.

My mindset? .......🤣

Help me in what way? Learn how to become a drama King when I don't get immediate gratification?

Apples and Oranges? You mean we don't play "11 man tackle" anymore?

It was 1973 and 74. And Fry had been a successful HEAD COACH at SMU before the 73 and 74 seasons. My point is that even "legendary" coaches who eventually took a historically losing program to the Rose Bowl can struggle when they take over a new job.

A little perspective here. Hayden Frys first year. He went 5-5-1 and tied for the MVC championship. BUT he lost to UT-Arlington, and Memphis in the first two games. G Date Day School Opponent Conf Pts Opp W L T Streak Notes 1 Sep 8, 1973 Sat North Texas N Texas-Arlington Ind L 7 31 0 1 0 L 1 2 Sep 15, 1973 Sat North Texas @ Memphis Ind L 3 24 0 2 0 L 2 3 Sep 22, 1973 Sat North Texas West Texas State MVC W 32 15 1 2 0 W 1 4 Sep 29, 1973 Sat North Texas Long Beach State PCAA T 0 0 1 2 1 T 1 5 Oct 13, 1973 Sat North Texas Louisville MVC W 7 6 2 2 1 W 1 6 Oct 20, 1973 Sat North Texas Drake MVC W 19 7 3 2 1 W 2 7 Oct 27, 1973 Sat North Texas @ New Mexico State MVC W 27 7 4 2 1 W 3 8 Nov 3, 1973 Sat North Texas @ Cincinnati Ind L 3 52 4 3 1 L 1 9 Nov 10, 1973 Sat North Texas Wichita State MVC W 31 21 5 3 1 W 1 10 Nov 17, 1973 Sat North Texas Tulsa MVC L 15 24 5 4 1 L 1 11 Nov 24, 1973 Sat North Texas @ San Diego State PCAA L 9 56 5 5 1 L 2 He tanked the next year with three losses to begin the year. The third one was to LAMAR. He finished up the year losing to West Texas State ( now WT A&M) and Long Beach State. G Date Day School Opponent Conf Pts Opp W L T Streak Notes 1 Sep 14, 1974 Sat North Texas N SMU SWC L 6 7 0 1 0 L 1 2 Sep 21, 1974 Sat North Texas @ Tulsa MVC L 6 31 0 2 0 L 2 3 Sep 28, 1974 Sat North Texas Lamar Ind L 7 27 0 3 0 L 3 4 Oct 5, 1974 Sat North Texas @ Drake MVC T 24 24 0 3 1 T 1 5 Oct 12, 1974 Sat North Texas Louisville MVC L 10 24 0 4 1 L 1 6 Oct 19, 1974 Sat North Texas New Mexico State MVC W 24 19 1 4 1 W 1 7 Oct 26, 1974 Sat North Texas Memphis Ind L 0 41 1 5 1 L 1 8 Nov 2, 1974 Sat North Texas (20) San Diego State PCAA W 14 9 2 5 1 W 1 9 Nov 9, 1974 Sat North Texas @ Wichita State MVC T 10 10 2 5 2 T 1 10 Nov 16, 1974 Sat North Texas @ West Texas State MVC L 14 21 2 6 2 L 1 11 Nov 23, 1974 Sat North Texas Long Beach State PCAA L 19 35 2 7 2 L 2

OK, lets get real here. If you are going to say "if we had Aune at QB", you also have to include all the other players who started on the team with him that have since taken a NIL bus ride to other schools. Aune would not have prevented FIU from hanging 500 yards on us.

Can he possibly do worse?

Well, better this than sitting on the bench and not being able to contribute anything toward the success of the team. I still think he has the best physical attributes (strong arm with the quickest release, good size and the best runner when he decided to scramble) of any of the spring candidates. Gary Patterson did not develop this guy, but he did play LB at TCU AFTER a very successful HS career where he was a state ranked QB.....at Bridgeport HS. Kyle Clifton - Wikipedia I believe that Brad Kassel was an outstanding QB at Llano. Seems like Brad did pretty well at LB here.

I'm not an expert, but I think that that would not have been very good for season ticket sales.

Well, I'll agree with you on one thing. Coach "prime time" would certainly bring about a change. I'm not sure I would use the word "culture" in the description, however.

Welp, to answer the question as posed by the title of this thread..........HE BETTER!