Screaming Eagle touched on what I truely believe is the root cause of NT's failure to garner sustained student, Alumni, and Denton support for it's athletic programs. The "hex", known as the "elite" Southwest Conference, continues to plague North Texas. We were never in that group and are not even associated with former teams of the SWC, to this day! What we have is the Sun Belt conference, comprised of teams that students could care less about. Even in good times, our football crowds for games with Arkansas State or ULL were only 17,000 on a good day. Bring in a Baylor, TCU, or an smuT and the crowds get to the 22,000+ plus mark. Sure, hardcore fans will attend games regardless of conference affiliation. I'm talking about the borderline fan, or those students that come to UNT whose Aunts and Uncles went to TxTech, a & M, UT, TCU, U of H, etc. I'm not attacking the SBC - just stating what I believe are the real reasons people don't support NT sports like they should. And when you can't even compete in the SBC, support really dwindles. Throw in a couple of 2-9 football seasons.... Well, you get the picture. Unless North Texas can be the conference king pin in just about all sports, we will continue to have limited support.