DeepGreen

I was referring to the Southlake, Tx address. That's his home; and his wife's email address.

Did Coach Dodge mention anything about the new stadium?

What a shame that the address is Todd Dodge, University of North Texas Athletics, P.O. Box xxxx, Denton. Somehow NT could benefit from those mailings going to an NT address.

Maybe so, but if the government really wanted us to purchase these hybrids then they should make them tax exempt when you purchase them. Some type of incentive for the buyer.

Hey, we could all drive Mopeds like they do in Viet Nam and other SE Asian countries. No, that won't work. They cause too much polution.

True. But I also think the auto/truck manufacturers could do a better job with gas milage. I've driven two Suburbans in recent years, a 1994 and a 2000, putting 130,000+ miles on each. You can't kill a Surburban. Both got around 19-20 miles per gallon on the highway, 15 in the city. Fourteen and eight years later, I now drive a Tahoe "FlexFuel". I still get 20 mpg highway and 15 city. Not one bit of improvement. I drive the Tahoe because I need the passenger capacity. I looked at other, gas saving alternatives, but they just are not out there. And we need to remember, the U.S. is not some European country where you can drive across several in a matter of hours in some small, 5 foot long matchbox of a car. Try driving 8 hours in one of those things. Or, make a trip out to Colorado. Not fun. The auto manufacturers need to do a better job with fuel economy.

Yes I have heard about it. Gulf of Mexico Oil I'm not sure if it's the same one, but Mexico also discovered a huge oil deposit near the Yucatan Penninsula.

Read some of UNTFlyer's earlier threads; he really has a handle on what is going on. Our company has been selling to Refinery/Petrochemical businesses for 75 years. I don't have any answers, but I can add to what has already been said. Currently, in our immediate area of Beaumont/Port Arthur (anyone remember Spindletop?) there is approximately $7 billion in new refinery construction going on at the Shell/Motiva facility. This was formerly the Texaco Refinery in Port Arthur, now a joint ownership between Shell Oil and the Saudis. Plans have been announced to increase capacity at Total (formerly Fina), and at Valero Refinery (formerly Gulf Oil). Projected spend in new construction: $10+ billion. Word on the street is that the Shell/Motiva Refinery in Convent, La will be building new refinery capacity to the tune of another $7 billion. And I doubt Exxon/Mobil will sit and watch their competition expand. A couple of comments- • China, India, and Russia are responsible for much of the increased oil demand worldwide. Buy any concrete lately? Did you know that China uses what, 20 or is it 40% of the worlds cement supply? These three countries need oil to fuel their economy. You know, that Chinese economy that makes just about everything we use nowadays. • I believe the hedge funds are sponsible for much of the increase too; factor in greed; factor in the politicians, lobbyists, and special interest groups • Labor to build and run these refineries has increased dramatically over the years. I won't say why, but use your imagination. Lamar has a two year program that trains operators, kids right out of high school (the guys that sit, watch monitors and open/close controls valves); last I heard, they start at $60,000 to $70,000 a year. I know engineers that retired with 35 years at a plant and walk away with $3-$6 million or more. • Contrary to what JohnDenver says, these refineries do shut down for maintenance. Otherwise, you end up like BP Oil in Texas City. But, many of these refinery units have been running on bandaids for several years, with maintenance being pushed back for whatever reason. • Refineries do shut down to switch to summer blends. This causes a disruption in the gas supply. These are my opinions- • I'm all for a clean environment, but not to the point where we are making the U.S. a slave to these little "piss ass" countries run by terorists and dictators. Don't you just love Hugo Chaves. This country runs on oil. Not fruit juice and corn squeezings. Sure, find alternative fuels; but don't try and replace oil with this stuff. This country needs to drill for it's own oil in the Gulf, in Alaska, or wherever we have large oil deposits. And believe me, this country has large, untapped oil deposits. Did you know China wants to start drill for oil off of the Cuban coast? How does that make you feel? It should make all of us feel like fools! • If you don't think we should drill for our own oil and become less dependent on foreign "blood" oil, then quit bitching about the price of gas!

Like I've always said, the WAC should be renamed to BWAC, or, Big West Athletic Consortium. After all, many of the teams were once part of the Big West or Big Sky at one time or another. But, perception is everthing sometimes. Even changing patches on a uniform can help in elevating a group of teams to a stature that is better than what it should be.

Would "daddy" like to name a football stadium after his Sweet 16 daughter?

Let me get this straight. All of you are clamoring for a Flying Worm magnet for your car? Why the sudden change of heart? Seems that not too long ago many on this board were dissing the Flying Worm of yesteryear. You know, during the Hayden Fry years at NT. Why the change of heart? We now have Son Of Worm. For the record, there is still a place in my heart for the Flying Worm. Very unique, just like our University. LONG LIVE THE WORM!

Plummer, you've been holding out on us, you sly dog! Now we know what you've been up to in your spare time. Photo courtesy of www.soundworksdeejay.com.

I'm talking those higher than RV.

UNT Administrators do not strike me as being "risk takers".

PlummMeanGreen, aka Plummer NMGreen This guys are MIA.

I'm not here to debate this issue, but all the information you care to read about, regarding a 9:30PM WAC game, can be read on the internet the next morning.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I can't remember the last time we recruited a 3B player in one those sizes. Oh, 3B= Big Body Basketball player.

Old Snelly's doing fine at #13.

MeanGreenTeeth, I question your avatar. What gives?

Thank you. I resemble that remark.

Thanks for your support Arkstfan. You would have to stand in line for days to set off your charge of explosives.

"Shovel passes...." At North Texas?

So?

I'd rather play Georgia Southern or App State any day over Texas State University-San Marcos, UTSA, or Lamar.

Way to go RV! You da man!