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9 hours ago, NT80 said:
Coach Fry showed that NT could win. It still can. He also did change the culture of the program and modernized it. It produced a lot of excitement for students, fans, and Denton.
We have a lot to be proud of in NT Football. We have a beautiful football stadium and indoor practice facility. We have advanced in football conferences up to the AAC. Ask La Tech, Marshall, App State, etc if they would trade places.
I wasn't really speaking of the facilities and those areas that we have made strides in to at least catch up. I was mainly speaking of on the field results. If fans, students, casual Denton residents go to games and continue to see losses and more times than not being an butt whipping then it's not going to be good and make them want to keep on coming back. As I've been saying we just haven't had the kind of sustained success some of these other programs have had and that's why we continue to have apathy.
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12 hours ago, wardly said:
Hayden Fry was unable to change our culture and neither has anyone since his departure.
Hayden Fry hasn't been here for 45 years. Life and times are vastly different now. The fan base that lived through those Fry years can't keep on having the barometer of what Fry did or didn't do and think things are the same today. As I previously said, there's apathy here because there just hasn't been very much to be proud about and cheer about when it comes to NT Football in my opinion.
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According to Wikipedia they have a 483-180-2 all time record good for a winning percentage of 73%. They've pretty much won and have had success in every level of football from the start so that community is used to winning. If there's a reason why they don't tolerate losing it's not that hard seeing why. They also have one of the more memorable bowl game win in the past couple of a decades with that win over Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. That game and so many of those plays are etched in people's brains so they just have the perception that we could have only dream of having.
We've never had any sort of success that Boise has had the last few decades and that matters. And no I don't think being part of a large metroplex hurts us like many on here have said because if we have these same results being in a small/rural town people still won't show up to a terrible product. Instead of talking about the continously bad product on the field, we have posters on here that routinely talk about blaming & alienating the arts programs and their students and what color hair they may have where as I took several business and sciences courses and they like everyone else didn't give a rip about NT athletics. It's a culture & results issue...can it be changed? Absolutely yes. It's just going to take some luck in having a few good coaches that has that it and winning factor and start to change things around here.
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53 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:
I'm going to go bonkers for about one minute here...it's on fan abuse...I'm trying to find out because I'm traveling that day what time the kick off is on UNT/Temple. that game is one and a half weeks away...ummm, TV doesn't have a time for it yet...uhh, the websites don't have a time for it yet...I just called the University of North Texas and said "do YOU know when it's going to start?" and I was told they have not set up a time for it yet. I called DATCU and talked to their ticket office, and I was told, quite honestly, they don't know what time it is.
THIS IS TELEVISION! this is television doing this. make up your minds and set a time. this is fan abuse! these people have the right to know, to schedule their day one and a half weeks early. these are the flat-bleeping idiots on television who will not set a time. this is the type of abuse that goes on all the time as television changes start times, changes everything on the fans. THIS IS RIDICULOUS! what are you waiting for? one of these teams to lose four in a row so you can make it a 9.30a start on CSTV?! this is flat ridiculous! and it happens every year to people all over the country. this is ludicrous! the people at ESPNU should be ashamed of themselves. ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES! set the time for the game and get it over with. this is a meh game where people might travel 12 miles...and there will be 10, 20, 30, 50 games all over the country this year where television will move it around...they'll move it an hour...they'll move it three hours...they'll move it four hours...they'll make it a night game instead of a day game...
DO THEY NOT REALIZE HUMAN BEINGS HAVE TO SCHEDULE THEIR DAYS WHEN THEY WANNA GO TO THE FOOTBALL?!?!
no. they sit around with their thumb hidden from daylight, quite honestly. get it done. get it done. do they know, do they not realize these people are not born sitting in a stadium seat? that people (cough, cough) that people actually have to figure out a schedule for their games? this is ludicrous. have a little consideration for your fans. have just the tiniest bit of consideration for your fans. this is ridiculous. and college football should be ashamed of it. and the people at UNT/Temple should be ashamed of letting themselves be pushed around like this. this is an ok game and they're trying to figure out "well, when do we wanna start it? do we wanna start at 11? or 12? or 2.30? or..." this is just (cough, cough) this is just utterly ridiculous.
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I guess I'm in the minority but count me in as one that loves the earlier start times especially when the weather should be great. Game ends early and you feel like you still have a lot of the day left to do whatever you want.
Networks don't care about putting on schedule for human beings. As a famous broadcaster once said...."it's called the way it is"
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There isn't one particular right way in building a football program. A holistic approach is probably going to be the way a good solid mid major program is going to have to build for sustained success IMO. And just remember, like the mid major program we are, we can't ignore being able to COACH UP a roster and develop players.
That said there is nothing about college football that has been killed. The sport has been the exact same except now players have rightfully been given the freedom to take advantage of their NIL just like the schools, coaches, TV networks, advertisers etc all have done for decades. And by the way the money continues to get bigger and bigger because people love it and apparently can't get enough of it.
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Good for SMU. They were able to pull it off even though I think long term, the CFB landscape is going to be completely different than what it is now. Short term I think it gives SMU a boost and the stadium/arena should fill up regularly. I think they have to win and win big tho because as I previously said I think things are going to lead to a whole new division 1 and a lot of of those current "Power" schools are going to be left behind because let's face it, they don't really move the needle as much as we might think. And again I can see some sort of relegation system like they have in European Soccer years down the line.
NT's task still remains the same. We just have to turn that corner in football(& continue MBB success) and start winning big and consistently. Can you imagine what a T25 ranking would do to the alumni base and the metroplex in general and wins against schools with a big names perception wise? We just haven't gotten to that level but hopefully Eric Morris will be the one to start that in Denton. Reversing apathy & culture is just a really hard thing to do.
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1 hour ago, Pavlovs Eagle said:
Don't they have facilities issues? I think they play football in the old Turner Field. No idea what the deal with their basketball is.
I thought they had played at the old Georgia Dome unless they've torn that thing down within the last few years.
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SMU's vision is simply just having a seat at the table and the long game. The ACC is likely to be in a dilemma in a few years as it appears a lot of those big players are wanting to bolt for the SEC and when that happens the Big Ten probably starts to look at adding to their conference. I'm guessing the thought SMU has is they don't care that the conference could very well implode, but if it does, they'll be part of that group that will still have the chance to still be in a power conference i.e. shifting to the Big 12 etc because they're already there.
Even with all these conferences imploding I don't think this movement is ever going to stop. There's too much interest, popularity and money in the sport that it wouldn't surprise me if there's some form of relegation type system like there is in European soccer. For now though SMU has a lot to sell because they have money and tons of it. I wish we were in that position because there's no telling how that has hamstrung our program because we didn't have money to pay coaches, or buy out underperforming ones sooner etc.
Ultimately, NT has to win consistently in football and sprinkle in a few seasons where they're winning big and get ranked. Can you imagine if we were getting ranked and winning big what kind of buzz there would be? We just have to get to that position and we have to control our own destiny and not fall back on the school size, location, potential nonsense that masks poor results on teh field because none of that has really mattered for us and we don't have the money the SMU's of the world has.
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13 minutes ago, Dannymacfan said:
Agreed. Still ok to hope for something good to happen for us.
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3 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:
Ok. I get SDSU because of the TV market, but what does Boise offer over CS and AF?
To me they offer a stellar football program with a ton of success for a long time. They also seem to be pretty good in mens basketball as well and I think they've been ranked in the T25 some years maybe? They are committed to athletics and most of all they have a name brand and recognition. It's a good size public school that is only going to grow and it's also located in an area that is booming and it's only going to get bigger in market and population.
I actually like CS and AF but there's no way a conference would take them over Boise State and SDSU if you had to chooose IMHO.
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45 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:
Ya, except give me Col. St. and Air Force over Boise and SDSU.
*In Ray Stone's voice* "Bad decision coach"
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In reality, the remaining PAC 4 teams have no interest at all in being associated with the MWC or AAC. The 4 of them are using both of the conferences to buy them time and see what they can come up with in a short and/or long term plan. I think PAC has gotten hit so bad that I'm not sure the conference survives b/c it's not like they'll be able to command any sort of good TV deal that they've been used to getting.
Of course if you're commissioners of the MWC and AAC respectively, you at least show that you're trying and make calls but I don't have any reason to think the remaining 4 PAC teams have any interest in being associated with the MWC and AAC.
If somehow they end up in one place or the other, they will bolt the first chance they get to get associated back with the traditional P5 schools.
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I don't get the sour grapes from some of the people on here. Mac was here for 6 seasons and built a great foundation that we can further build on and left us in great hands in Hodge.
Mark Few didn't inherit a dumpster fire when he took over Gonzaga. TCU was a good program and on the rise before Patterson took over. Boise State had been really good in whatever level of FB they were in before they had those exceptional years when Chris Petersen took it to crazy levels. When you're a school like NT this is expected. That said the more the school and program ascends, the better chance we will have coaches here longer b/c we will have more support, fans and will be able to pay our coaches for them to stick around even longer.
We've far relied on location, school size & media market to think we need to be in a certain place in college athletics and while that's all really nice, what is going to make this thing greater is winning programs and continuously good hires that produce winning teams.
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1 hour ago, CMJ said:
What a day. First off, to be there when we won was such a magical experience, truly I can't put it into words.
My wife is waking up so I'll post more later. Just so proud. Though Perry hit the dagger, I knew we had it when Sissoko made his shot a few possessions earlier.
That Sissoko shot instantly reminded me of the long jumper Ian Mahinmi took and made in game 6 of the 2011 finals in Miami to end the 3rd quarter. That was when I knew Dallas was going to close it out and take the series and that was the same feeling I got last night after he made it.
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2 hours ago, wardly said:
What do you mean "selling out for the money"? You are telling us that you would turn down a job in your chosen field in a location that was acceptable to you and your family at 3 times your present income guaranteed for 6 years. Right.......
On top of the money these guys want to win at the very highest level and going to a P5 school gives him the opportunity to go far in the NCAA Tournament, final 4's etc.
Yes he's very well off now but he can also add a ton of cushion to his bank account for him and his family for a very very long time.
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I heard from a person in the athletic department yesterday that they have some kind of celebration/event planned on Friday but I'm not sure if anything has changed on that front.
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He owes us nothing and we don't owe him anything beyond what it is in the contract. That's the price of doing business. As a great and famous DFW radio host once said..."It's called the way it is."
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Why would GH come back here to be an OC when he's already an OC at a P5 school. I don't think the added associate head coach title here at NT specifically will matter much.
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I want the right hire I don't care how long it takes. As I've said before the recruiting, portal stuff will all take care of itself. If we hire the right person for the job then it will be all be fine.
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If we're going to consider Skip Holtz, then why not consider Kevin Sumlin? I think a program like NT may be exactly what is best for him and in his wheelhouse.
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Recruiting and the transfer portal will work itself out. There's no reason why an AD cannot be hired first and the first order of business is finding a FB coach. It all comes with the job and hitting the ground running. Forcing a newly hired AD to be stuck with the highest and most important job at the university and having no input and say in it whatsoever is kind of a crummy thing to do. We can work fast and do things the proper way.
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