untjim1995

God Bless him, Mike Jackson looks at our situation and our resources/location, thinking we should be so much better than what we show. He lists every reason that we are the sleeping giant. He looks at this place just like Dan McCarney did. He only hears excuses, not reasons, for our suckitude for the better part of the last 40+ years. One day, like so many, many more before him, he will wake up and ask himself why this is the hill he chose to fight upon. He will then go crazy like the 98% of the UNT family does (like UNT90 did) and just walk away or he will go the path of untjim1995 and realize that the best path to follow us is to expect absolutely nothing and just enjoy the occasional winning season fully, knowing how amazing those years are around here. I’ve been in his shoes—believing that this place was the next big G5 program to go upward. Then I have watched Boise State, Marshall, UCF, USF, Troy, Appy State, Coastal Carolina, and UTSA zoom to the place I thought we could go. Those places demanded winning. We didn’t and don’t. You can’t want to win more than the administration does. It’s not ever gonna work out for your expectations.

Well, as a reminder, since we moved back up to FBS in 1995, we have had exactly 6 winning seasons out of 27. You have seen them, even if they’re like a Bigfoot spotting.

It’s amazing how much changes and yet stays the same…SBC run vs CUSA streak

Id imagine, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Georgia Tech, and Auburn will all be interested.

ISU has done this before. Dan McCarney had completely turned them around, but he had a couple of tough years and they fired him. They never were good again until Matt Campbell got there. If they fire him, they deserve everything that happens after that. Actually, in a similar fashion, we deserve everything we get if SL coaches one day here in 2023.

Campbell is a solid coach at the G5 and P5 levels. Littrell is a below average coach at the G5 level. But, they are both white men who are head coaches that also breathe oxygen, so there's that for commonality.

Crickets, lots of crickets in the early part of the season...a concrete field covered with a very thin green rug, and a stadium of bleachers that was 33.33 yards away from the field from the BEST seats in the stadium. That place was such a dump. The visitors' locker room would make a 6-man stadium look acceptable.

This. SMU kills us early in the season, we lose half of the fans that show up for that game, then we scramble to find anyone who will go watch us play whoever we host the rest of the season. The NIL and transfer portal are close to dropping interest here for many G5s. I hate NIL so much that I won’t put a penny toward it, on principle. And many many people feel this way. I get the transfer portal more, as it gives kids a second chance for many reasons, but I also know a lot of folks who hate it. If someone is a fan of NIL, it’s because they want their P5 team to buy away talent or they are fans of some pissant school that is rich but will never get to move up because they bring nothing to the table.

I’ve never heard anyone say they miss Fouts Field… Thats like me saying I miss my first apartment.

This thread delivers…message boards really, really matter, so we need to have posters meet and fight in person, although one person never goes to games to show his support for the team. Then, we have the great debate on how Bean isn’t really that great, although he comes in cold and throws 4 TDs on an undefeated ranked conference opponent, as Aune loses, too. Peak gmg.com

@NorthTexasWeLove @greenminer @UNTcrazy727 Is this the positivity you want? I mean the beat writer in the town, one of two people that cover the team, he strongly believes in the current coach and his future here...the fans here in Denton sure get the big picture!! Go Mean Green!!

If we are winning, you're correct. But besides SMU, UTSA, and Navy, I'm not sure we will see a big attendance bump from playing Tulsa, Tulane, Rice, UAB, USF, ECU, FAU, Charlotte, Memphis, or Temple. This lineup is light years better than the current CUSA, but we do get decent crowds from UTEP and La Tech fans coming here. My point is that the only chance we have to take advantage of this is to win, obviously, but if we bring back SL, with our current budget, we might win about 3 AAC games in a year. And with the NIL money these AAC privates and big city public schools have, that winning will be even tougher if we cannot get something better going. Trusting RV to do that is not exactly something many of us would recommend after watching him oversee the AD for 15 years.

The correct answer is to classify programs by their budgets and their real attendance. This would not be hard to do in the world we live in today--drones can easily tell the NCAA that SMU and UNT got half of what they reported as attendance. The top 50 programs have no business playing the next 100 programs. They have so many more advantages than the current G5s and FCS, it's like saying libertarians or the green party can compete with the GOP or the Democrats. We know that they can't and it's a waste of time to act like they do. The G5s' fans, players, and coaches have every right to play for a championship, like every other level of football. From Pee Wee to the NFL, every level of football gets a champion crowned at the end of the season--except the G5s, who just accept crumbs because they get their AD budgets covered by games at the P5s. That isn't sustainable.

Completely agree—want nothing to do with them.

I agree completely--but this isn't a conservative school that would let anyone think that women's rights wasn't being taking seriously, like they did at Baylor or at Liberty.

You have to remember that UNT is a liberal campus. We aren't hiring anyone associated with rape...

Well, we do make it pretty easy for them to do...

Totally agree

Neither of those will ever get hired here...ever

Its still the same ol' SMU. Entitled, acting like their money ought to buy them into a P5 conference, but showing to be nowhere near as good as we make them look every year. Our entire university acts like the SMU game is the biggest game every year, Then, as soon as we see that Mustang on a helmet, the whole team goes into a complete panic, pisses down their pants, and we get clobbered, making the non-diehard students walk away for the season. Rinse and repeat...

There is no doubt that you are correct about that last part--absolutely no argument. All I'm saying is the fairly obvious point that UTSA doesn't have the issues we have with corporate NIL deals and media coverage, as well as not having the apathy and losing to deal with like we have. Their advantages will make up for the administrative and alumni support in the long run, as it has already shown when they have momentum. Look, they had their Tony Benford hire in Frank Wilson, who took over a program that had high expectations and just crushed it into the ground. They eventually fired him after we were pounding them and they went and made a very good hire to combat that. They've jumped ahead, nothing more, nothing less. But my point is that winning there SHOULD be easier than it is here, for many of the reasons I've stated. What SL accomplished in 2017 and 2018 is much harder than many people on this board want to admit or recognize. We have won 9 games in a season 4 times since 1979. Doing that in back-to-back seasons in Denton is basically amazing when you put that into perspective. Now tell me how it should be different because of Apogee, the AAC, funding increases, size of Denton, Denton County, and DFW to draw from, and that we are a sleeping giant...

Ignore me if you want. You aren't exactly a ray of sunshine to me, either.

NIL

They are talented players enjoying some nice cash and better coaching at a big P5. Imagine that…

You chose a picture of a the stadium’s home opener against a ranked in-state opponent to show that Denton supports us? Thank God that UH brought fans or wouldn’t have even been remotely close to a sellout…which we have never had. Look, UNT winning big would draw people. There’s no doubt or argument about this. But the problem is that we don’t ever really do that. And DFW doesn’t care a bit about us, so we get no coverage of any decent level. UTSA doesn’t deal with this, which is what this is all about.