untjim1995

If your scenario played out, I’d be all on board for keeping him…he’d have shown improvement and an immense amount of buy-in from the locker room. And that ain’t happening. When we played SMU, UNLV, and Memphis, they all had more talent than we have, while also being much better coached. UTSA, WKU, and UAB are all in the same vein as the three OOC opponents we got beat by, two of whom murdered us. Look, today was a very solid win at home for us. La Tech is rebuilding and we have left them behind to stew in their own CUSA backyard of poop. Same with UTEP. And we won at home against FAU, which again was a solid conference win. I suspect we will get two more against FIU and Rice. That will get you 6 wins and a bowl berth against some MAC or MWC team again. If we win it, you’ll get to enjoy SL for at least 3 more years here. And probably get VIP tickets to the Lovelace Party. And then watch us go 3-9 as AAC members, with an automatic SMU ass kicking annually to continue.

Don’t forget that it’s their Super Bowl, too, while playing at home.

Fine was one tough (and clutch) SOB…that last play was one that many QBs couldn’t have made and would’ve been out for multiple games after a Hit like that.

FIU might be the worst team in FBS. UTSA will murder us next week.

I’ve enjoyed your posts over the years, but this is dumb…real dumb. Nobody has heard of Kennesaw State. It sounds like a truck driving school. Charlotte has a long tradition in basketball and people know who they are, even if football is fairly new.

They can't do anything. Not one of the Presidents of the CUSA schools is gonna ask to have the first female commissioner fired. Not one media member is gonna ask her if she sucks at her job. As soon as you do, you are a misogynist and hate women. She's bullet proof. Glad to get away from her.

Louisiana Tech is stuck here while ULM is in the much better SBC…karma makes me laugh sometimes.

UNT 34 LT 33 One step closer to the Lovelace Jam...

It’s so much easier to get a program turned around in basketball than it is in football. One or two guys can totally reverse the course for hoops. On a football team, you need about 20 guys to fix the team. It’s why the allowance of letting SL back to save money and keep the BMDs happy will be a gigantic mistake in hindsight.

This is probably what our pure UNT luck will be. We will be 5-6 entering our last game at home in front of hundreds against Rice after Thanksgiving, having gotten wins over LT and FIU, while getting demolished by UTSA, UAB and WKU on the road. We win by a FG, then get this bid to the NM Bowl against 6-6 SD State. Lovelace tells Wren and Neal to wait until the bowl game ends for us to make a decision, then we pull out a 13-10 NM Bowl championship and extend Wren for 3 years, setting off the biggest party in the history of Denton at the Lovelace estate...

I don't agree at all. SL got his extension (which was deserved) because his agent, Jimmy Sexton, completely swindled our leadership, who hadn't had any coach to fight over or for ever before. The problem wasn't issuing the contract--it was accepting that this contract couldn't ever be bought out if SL started sucking. Instead, we saved money while the product got worse and worse. And, now, we are staring at this abyss ahead--not knowing who will coach next year and for how long. Will it be someone knew? Will it be SL in his last year of a contract? Will it be SL with an extra few years added to his last year? None of those three questions help you with recruiting, retention, or fundraising/attendance.

Losing to La Tech would be the best thing that can happen, long-term, for this place. Because it gets closer to 7 losses that we need to drop SL. As we have mentioned, want the AAC years to go bad? Bring SL over as our HFC. We win about 3 games, max... It sucks to root against your team. But if it makes the future brighter, then you do what you gotta do. We have to move on. This guy is a bump on a log--he doesn't inspire players or fans. His gameplans are simple and his QBs are just spare, Fine being the exception. He is nowhere near being the guy we need--Gary Patterson is the guy we need, but I just don't know if he wants us. We need someone with a spark and an edge, while being able to focus on making diamonds out of coal. He has done that at TCU and could easily do that here. If we are ever gonna make a splash hire, its to duplicate what we did with Hayden Fry. Its there--we just have to figure out a way to make it happen.

That exclamation mark in the thread title was incorrectly shown to be a question mark…right??

That’s UH and they got money and fans and big corporations… We got the UNT 17…

Oh, it would be 3 wins per season, tops…

Me watching us play SMU anywhere…

I completely agree with you...he gets 8+ wins, he's gonna be here for several more seasons with absolutely no doubt and then we start feeling good about things again.

Couldn't possibly agree any more with you on this. Great post.

Hell yeah...if you don't think we can beat UTSA on the road, as a fan, you better stay home because you aren't helping us win. I know I still regret thinking we were gonna get our asses handed to us against SMU again in early September. If I thought differently, as a fan, maybe we wouldn't have lost by multiple TDs.

Yall know that I believe 7 wins gives SL an extension of at least 2 more years on his contract that expires after 2023. The Lovelace Party will be huge if his 'son' gets to stay around. So, here is what needs to happen for 7 wins: Beat LT, FIU, and Rice at home, then win (finally) a spare bowl game against some MAC school. I don't see us winning a game at UTSA, WKU, or UAB, all of whom are waaayyyyyyy more talented than we are right now and we play awful against non-bad teams on the road (or at home, too). Here's the scenario that will make many on gmg.com lose their mind--we get to 6 wins in the regular season and before a bowl game, we extend him. The thought being that they want to keep recruits interested and current players/coaches from leaving. This would be just the title of the next chapter in the book "North Texas Just Doesn't Care...". Here is where I think most older fans would leave for good--pull a Tony Benford and let SL come back in a contract year to coach his last to save money. Our recruiting would look bad compared to Texas Wesleyan or Austin College, much less anyone in FCS, G5s, or beyond. This would do it for those who have somehow fought thru the ridiculousness we have seen for years, showing everyone that what truly matters is saving money. I wouldn't care if we ever played another football game again. If we do that in 2023 with a coach who got an 8th year because it would cost to buy him out and we don't want to take the chance of losing a BMD, I'd finally join the 98% that have given up.

God Bless him, Mike Jackson looks at our situation and our resources/location, thinking we should be so much better than what we show. He lists every reason that we are the sleeping giant. He looks at this place just like Dan McCarney did. He only hears excuses, not reasons, for our suckitude for the better part of the last 40+ years. One day, like so many, many more before him, he will wake up and ask himself why this is the hill he chose to fight upon. He will then go crazy like the 98% of the UNT family does (like UNT90 did) and just walk away or he will go the path of untjim1995 and realize that the best path to follow us is to expect absolutely nothing and just enjoy the occasional winning season fully, knowing how amazing those years are around here. I’ve been in his shoes—believing that this place was the next big G5 program to go upward. Then I have watched Boise State, Marshall, UCF, USF, Troy, Appy State, Coastal Carolina, and UTSA zoom to the place I thought we could go. Those places demanded winning. We didn’t and don’t. You can’t want to win more than the administration does. It’s not ever gonna work out for your expectations.

Well, as a reminder, since we moved back up to FBS in 1995, we have had exactly 6 winning seasons out of 27. You have seen them, even if they’re like a Bigfoot spotting.

It’s amazing how much changes and yet stays the same…SBC run vs CUSA streak

Id imagine, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Georgia Tech, and Auburn will all be interested.

ISU has done this before. Dan McCarney had completely turned them around, but he had a couple of tough years and they fired him. They never were good again until Matt Campbell got there. If they fire him, they deserve everything that happens after that. Actually, in a similar fashion, we deserve everything we get if SL coaches one day here in 2023.