I do not hate Ramon Flanigan. In the world I live in my job relies on results. Results in my world are measured in profitability. It would seem that results in the college football world are also measurable. #1 Recruiting class 108th #2 Offensive Stats 118th #3 Wins and losses (use the one you want, last year, OOC, lifetime) It seems that 1 leads to 2 which results in 3. In the real world people like me report to investors or "owners" Who are the investors in this program? The board of regents? Alumni? People who donate a majority of the money? I just want the results to speak, not excuses about lack of a new stadium. The stadium that I drove 4 hours for to watch a game in on Saturday night was a much bigger dump than ours. The Athletic director and presidents box was a little concrete area stuck in the middle of the student section. At our place they are air conditioned and out of the weather. They had new field turf just like us, but everything else, including the restrooms were run down. No Jumbotron for replays. However, can you argue with Kragthorpes success? I say no. He recruits these kids to Tulsa and wins the dang Liberty Bowl last year. I dare say that they do not complain about facilities. They had an athletic center under construction in the endzone that was a fraction of the size of ours. I quit, I am giving myself tired head. Back to the real world for 15 minutes untill I can't resist and click on again.