TIgreen01

Well, I would hope that they go to the students with at least double what is "needed" to build the stadium. That way, if it fails, the SA can vote in the $4 increase. What is the SA going to do if the $4 increase is pitched to the students and fails the referendum vote? You said there was a backup plan, but apparently this is not it?? Also, What will a $4 increase per credit hour bring us to as a total? $10/hr? As far as alumni donating more money to the program, I think that a new stadium will command an entirely new ticket pricing scheme---which will force alums to give the increase you're talking about, Flyer, if they already aren't donating beyond the cost of season tickets. That said, I'm in. Also, if the fee increase is brought before the students, I'd hope to see all the status quo talk silenced for a bit---no matter what the actual increase asked for is. The last thing we need is to splinter our core support at such a critical time. Students will undoubtedly check this site....don't let it get to the point where it looks like the alumns don't have their backs.

sorry....fixed.

Just quoting this one post, but am replying to all of you with "inside" information: DAMN YOU ALL!!! I'm pulling my hair out over here!!! Just tell me that the students won't, as has been "leaked", get the end-all say in the matter and I'll be satisfied....

Hate to join the dark side, also, but the only logical chance we have against KSU is that they DRAMATICALLY underestimate us. We did close the season with a loss to FIU, so that bodes well for us.

To me, this sounds like a disaster waiting to happen....perhaps b/c the sting of the last vote and fallout thereafter is still fresh in my mind. What I would like to know is where the voting booths will be placed? Right outside Fouts field or The Pit, come to mind---with the obvious inclusion of the "regular" locations. Is there anything in the SA constitution/by-laws that would prevent that from happening? It has always been difficult to get good numbers for any SA votes...has the thought of "early" voting come up? I just think that if we could get all of the 5-6000 students that show up to every football game to vote, this would be a shoe in....as it is, these elections are usually not promoted enough that the voting dates and locations are etched into student's brains. We can't afford for this vote to fail....esp. since it appears (conspiracy theory?) that the administration is setting this up as an easy out for themselves.

Agreed. Sounds like more of the same from our administration....

Who says we would replace Navy/Tulsa/Rice as home games?! I don't understand this logic. Why would it be anything other than having an ADDITIONAL home game to start the season---as opposed to an away game at KSU/OU/Texas/LSU, we'd get a directional FCS team and beat the hell out of them....in front of 22k fans. Then, when Tulsa showed up in week 2, we'd have 25k fans ready to see us be competitive and beat the hell oughta them, too. As it stands right now, we're going to have 5 home games this season. Week 2, we're going to come in with a 0-1 record (after not winning a single body bag game in 9 years I think this is pretty much a certainty) and hopefully draw 25k if we don't get beat too badly in week 1. I think RV has done a better job with our schedules, recently, but I'd really like to know what the numbers REALLY are that support our still current plan of taking a loss in game 1 every year? Are we really balancing the budget with these games?...or do we just think that we can't draw well enough in successive weeks to open the season? How much (in attendance and $$) do we have to make in one home game to offset the body bag money?

Yep, it's a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned.

Dang...kind of renders the entire "online dynasty" concept useless without excellent online play. I hope they don't just "work on it", but fix the dang thing. My friends and I are salivating over the prospect of the new dynasty mode.... Sweet! Thanks.

Any word on how it's going to play online (PS3 version specifically)? I had last year's game, but the online play was near unplayable with lag problems. Also, where are you reading up on the game?

Well said, sir. How do we get them??

?? Did the Marching Band director leave after last season?...cause if not, he was my RA in Kerr Hall my Freshman year. I'd say that counts as "attending" UNT...

Dang....I now wish that we would have done this to smu after they announced that they'd support LaTech over UNT for CUSA membership. ULM is my new second favorite college program!!

I agree, the psychology of this situation is unlike anything we've seen at UNT in quite a while and will hopefully be fun to watch. From what I've seen, Vizza is a tough, tough kid who doesn't let losing destroy his confidence, but steels his will instead. We definitely need more like him. My personal opinion on the long ball vs. the accurate short throws is that the long ball can be thrown to open spots on the field (ala Scott Hall who didn't have a very strong arm but consistently completed long passes with great accuracy) where fewer defenders are crowded around, but the short ball has to be dead-on accurate as most defensive players are going to be inside a 20 yd box. I guess it's hard to gauge Vizza's accuracy with last year's blocking, but from what I've seen of Riley, he's one of the most accurate passers I've seen in a long time....and alot of that does have to do with timing and repitition with each receiver. We'll see how he looks on a level playing field in a few short months.

Whoa, dude...you act like I'm calling Vizza a chump when I actually said he reminds me of one of the best QBs to play at UNT. It is a great problem to have when one of the top recruits in the nation (well earned) is coming on to challenge yet another great player. Having seen R. Dodge and Vizza several times each, Riley is more accurate at 20 yards and in, Vizza has a cannon for an arm, both are tough and will stand in in the face of a big pass rush, but both can run when called for with Vizza the more straight ahead fearless type and Dodge more elusive. Both players have their strengths and I will guess that if we aren't able to develop a run threat with our RBs that Vizza will more than likely maintain the edge b/c of his homerun long ball threat and durability. Maybe I'm wrong...it's just an opinion.

Just for comparison purposes, what did Mizzou do with Chase Daniel? Did he not redshirt his initial freshman year? He's not all that different, size-wise, than Riley and has bulked up a ton since his HS days. I would love to see Riley redshirt, but I seriously doubt that he's going to do anything less than take the starting spot once he's turned loose by the coaching staff---no knock on Vizza (who also reminds me of Scott Hall, one of our all-time greats, as someone else mentioned already), but Riley wasn't rated the #6 QB in the nation for nothing. I'd love to see a 2 year cushion, like many here are calling for....but I think he redshirts, then starts pretty soon into his RSFresh season.

You're counting on quite a bit of 'IFs' being answered!---is this your opening day lineup?? Mine would be: DE Davenport (JUCO Horton possibly starting by week 3-4) DT Desoto (rotating with I. Thomas if healthy) DT Joe Miller DE Gilmore LB C. Robertson LB Mahan (Sr. leadership) LB Nwigwe (biggest LBer we have) CB A. Bush CB Nurudeen (don't think a Juco will replace him by first game) DB Agbottah DB Garden/Hill (or whoever is our biggest hitter)

I was at both of those games....though seeing the years printed in your post only solidifies my position. Didn't totally realize that it's been 9, N-I-N-E, years since we've won a paycheck game. That is sickening to see in print.

I'm with you....last year was it for me for a while. Went to both OU and Ark. and need a few years off from that crap.

Excellent post.

The one thing nobody on the board talks about is the special teams units even though it single handedly cost us at least a couple wins last season. Just curious as to what everyone's take is there this year---as far as who'll be playing and how we'll do. I bring this up b/c I picked up a copy of Phil Steele's mag yesterday and saw what our rankings for ST were during DD's years here....we were very often very good (in the top 50 every year but one(when we had unusually high player turnover) and in top 20 at least once?---don't have the mag in front of me now). Last year, though, we slipped down to 118 out of 119 teams. I realize our kicking situation was a big part of that, but we didn't cover kicks well and also had a few punts blocked. So in the offseason we signed a kicker and a return man. Is that going to be enough....what needs to happen for us to get back to top 50 as an overall ST unit?

Excellent research, Flyer. From the sound of it, though, our BOR could pass a fee that was under $150 and increase it by 10% each year...which seems like what many on this board have been proposing from the get-go. An additional $150 per student would generate over 4 million if you just count undergrads. ...or am I reading this wrong? I am no lawyer...

You talk like you were not around when the last vote was taken. What makes you so confident that those of us that were should calm down and not be worried about this?? I know (for a FACT) that it doesn't take many votes to swing a UNT student election one way or the other. Unless the SGA is completely (doubtful) behind this and has a few thousand votes up it's sleeve, I'd say that letting the students vote on a massive student fee increase is not going to work. The question has been asked over and over on this board, but WHY must UNT put an athletic/stadium fund fee increase before the students to vote on? Is UNT somehow legally bound while other state universities in Texas are not?

Dammit. There goes the stadium....wave goodbye everyone.

Alright...we're not giving up 48(as one of their posters projects) to Tulsa. KState and LSU---more than likely....but no more 45+ point games from non-AutoQ teams. This game will be much more tightly contested than Tulsa fans have any idea to expect---well, unless they were paying attention the last time DeLoach roamed the sidelines....