TIgreen01

Folks have gotta start learning to root just for the shirt and not the individual players who wear it. Otherwise this kind of crap is going to just always leave you angry and negative. Get ready for the mass exodus when Mac leaves, too...

It is what it is. He's a great coach and our attendance and schedule (OOC) this year has been weak. He gets upgrades across the board at Tech. That wasn't going to be the case at smu where their attendance has only ever been good when they had the celebrity Larry Brown coaching them. Why would he not take Hodge with him, though? I would think the entire staff would get a huge raise. Not just Mac. Do we know that Hodge wants to be a head coach even? No matter what happens, I trust Mosley will find a solid replacement if Mac does move on. He's a basketball guy and UNT is a great job and getting better.

This is a fun game. Both teams are scrappy winners. Need FAU to pull out the W, but tough to see either one of these teams lose.

That was a nail biter. Fortunate for FAU Kendrick Davis gets hurt and doesn’t really play down the stretch. Don’t think they win without that.

But let’s go FAU!

FAU doubling Jelly sure helps. Why we didn’t do more to deny him the ball, I don’t understand. Especially after he got hot and EVERYONE could see it. We trusted our system, instead of adjusting to the game being played.

UAB looks like garbage tonight. Double Jelly and nobody else can beat you. What was our staff thinking???

I know TP won the award, but Jelly is the best player in the conference. He was the difference yesterday. This was not Mac’s best team and they still won 26 games. Really gritty and tough group of kids. They never quit, but we have holes all over the place offensively. Will be interesting to see who is back next year and what pieces are brought in. How Abou continues to develop will be crucial. He struggles against the better posts in this league, but he has the tools to be an all conference level player. I’d love to see a talented kid on the level of a Jelly Walker come in. We will need it at the AAC level. Someone who can single handedly pull us out of a scoring drought or take over a game.

I watched parts of the UH game today in that same arena. Not many more were there for the #1 (or 2) ranked team in the country.

The Maniacs is a good start. Keep that going and as those kids graduate they will become alumni who are more likely to continue coming back as paying customers. The fact is that those 5 long years of Benford completely wiped out the chance to turn 5 years of graduates into long-term fans AND it wiped out a good chunk of people who regularly bought season tickets before that time. There has never been a more demoralizing time in UNT athletics than when Benford took a team getting top 25 votes and IMMEDIATELY turned them into a bottom 25 team. Then our AD KEPT HIM HERE FIVE YEARS! I know a LOT of people who just gave up and I can't even get them to come back at all. Football or basketball. When I look at the people in the stands who aren't students, they are mostly all my age (mid-40s) and older. Extend the discounts for recent graduates to basketball season tickets (only see it available for Football on the site). We have to build the base back up. @Green Otakuis right. We wiped out the base and then lost at least 5 years of converting graduates into fans.

The point I'm making is that it is hard to believe anything those guys say after proclaiming that these PAC schools can't run their programs with $22M/school when that would be more than they currently get (~$250M/12). Yes, they are falling further behind the other 4 power conferences. No, they are not going broke anytime soon. What is interesting is that the PAC already has offered membership to smu and SDSU. Whatever numbers they are negotiating absolutely have to be negotiated knowing that they are/will be members soon. Whether or not smu and sdsu warrant $20M each is beside the point. The collective of schools still there are likely still driving the numbers. SDSU and smu benefit by association. Maybe they agreed to take less money, but those details haven't been made public as far as I know.

$22 million is not enough to run the program? How much do they get today? How much do we get? 🙄 I’m pretty sure they can run the programs. Now, can they compete with the other 4 power conferences? No. The PAC can continue so long as they can check their egos, though.

That's a pretty shocking development, if true. It's no different than our crappy ESPN3/ESPN+ coverage from the past decade+. Viewership will absolutely plummet and what do they do when they go back to renegotiate in 5 years armed with pathetic and dwindling viewer/ratings numbers? They just keep losing money. If they sign that they are either fools or have run out of other options.

Yep. Stupid to use the green and black with those helmets. Where is @ADLER?!

Worst case scenario, all but WSU and OSU leave the Pac12 this is MWC + Pac12 roster: Air Force, Boise, Colorado St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada, New Mexico, San Diego St, San Jose St, UNLV, Utah St, Wyoming, Wash St, Oregon St, SMU Vs the AAC: East Carolina, Memphis, Navy, South Florida, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa; Charlotte, FAU, North Texas, Rice, UAB, UTSA I do tend to think that Washington and Oregon leave the Pac12. Whether they get a B10 invite or go independent, they should leave that group. I think it's a stretch to assume that the 4 corner schools gain all that much by jumping. Presumably they don't add much value to their OWN media deal. Why would the Big12 water down their media money by adding them? Doesn't make sense to me. Of those 4 corner schools, the 2 most likely to add value to Big 12 are Arizona and Colorado. Arizona values basketball and there is no question the Big12 is the best basketball conference now, and likely still even after all this dust settles. But their football is a mess. Colorado already left the Big12 once, and it was a vastly superior conference then vs today. Realistically, Pac12 can still lose Wash and Oregon and then pickoff the best of the MWC. That could then look something like this: New Pac10: Arizona, Arizona St, Boise, Colorado, Oregon St, San Diego St, SMU, UNLV, Utah, Wash St New MWC10: Air Force, Colorado St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada, New Mexico, San Jose st, Utah St, UTEP, Wyoming The new Pac10 is definitely not a power conference with that new lineup, but it is a step above the new MWC and the new AAC. The new AAC is a better conference than the new MWC (which has essentially become the old Big West/WAC again).

All of these are great ideas but basketball attendance this year has flushed all my previously held laws about college sports attendance down the toilet. We've won 3 consecutive conference championships and another 20 games already this season. We should be averaging 5k. We were close to that when JJ was here and we didn't have close to the same level of success then as we are now. It makes no sense. What I do know is that attendance was trending up in football and basketball until COVID hit. Since COVID we have not come close to returning to previous norms. This may be an especially HSO, but from my extremely unscientific research, I think our student body contains a whole lot more of the kinds of folks who are overly cautious about observing all the social distancing rules (read hipsters) than those who are not (read rednecks). A rebalancing of the student body may be required...or just the general passage of time to allow said hipster group to return to pre-COVID social distancing norms. In all seriousness, getting the Greeks to be as involved at UNT sporting events as they are at some of these power 5 schools would make a huge difference IMPO.

Man these guys make me want to puke. And no puke emoji was going to get that across better. So I had to write it out.

Who here is doubting Morris?

It is a fact that Morris had less time to recruit and was put in a difficult spot by our AD replacing coaches when he did. We essentially missed the early signing period. That’s not Morris’ fault. Did he and his staff do a good job filling holes on short notice? Time will tell. However, many are coloring their opinion that this is a better class than what it is rated by either having a personal liking of Morris and his staff or by being shocked that he put together a class at all. I’ve been around too long to get overly excited about anything here until I see results on the field. Relying on our coaching staff to “coach up” these players is only something you say when you’ve been soundly beaten in recruiting…which we have the last 2 years. Just listen to the new DC in the video posted in this forum. He talks about how elite speed and skill from his players in the secondary make him a better coach. We do return a lot of guys next year. But after that we’re going to have to make up ground from the last 2 classes. Morris may be able to that…but he wouldn’t have to if we had recruited better. Keeping a lame duck staff impacted our class last year, and firing him too late this year hurt this class. We have to do better in the AD spot than we did.

He’s right, you know. 2 years in a row we ranked 8th or worse. The 3 years prior to that we were 1, 2 and 4th. Those 3 recruiting classes that ranked at or near the top of the conference got us to the conference championship. Recruiting matters and we are going to have to make up ground lost these last 2 years.

Get ready to be disappointed when Harris finally runs out of eligibility….. and utsa doesn’t fall off a cliff. Granted, it would not surprise me to see traylor leave the same offseason. Not necessarily because of Harris…but if he wins again this year, as we all expect, he’s going to be a scorching hot commodity.

I think very little of utsa the school. Having said that, and after attending the championship game, as long as they can continue to draw to the Alamodome they will be a problem to deal with. That dome provides them with a great atmosphere. Another thing to consider is that the San Antonio news actually covers them and puts them on TV and in print. We have Brett Vito. That’s it. The draw for kids to play there will be there as long as they aren’t terrible. Great atmosphere and TV coverage are real advantages. We literally went from looking down at them to celebrating every recruit we got a commit from that was offered by utsa like they were superstars. That‘s pretty telling and upsetting.

You're not wrong. I think it's the sudden and complete separation from the previous "amateur" model we had to a full-on business that has turned people off. Whether or not this was always happening behind the scenes, the curtain still blocked this out for those who wanted to live with their heads in the sand. People wanted to believe that college athletes picked their school for the same reasons that they did. We get attached to these places and want to think that these athletes are just like us. Forget that Bama (and countless others) has been buying championships for decades. Personally, the misuse of NIL and the unlimited transfer portal (with no rules) has only served to increase my interest in the NFL and lessen my interest in college sports. I haven't had my head in the sand, but just want to see some standards and rules created to level the playing field. The way it is now will only serve the schools that are already rich. The NFL was setup like this prior to the salary cap and free agency being introduced in the 90s. Then those rules changes were introduced to help level the field and give all fanbases hope that they might be able to compete in any given year. Not surprisingly their ratings and revenues shot through the roof. If college sports are just going to be a business, then at least run it intelligently. Keeping a system in place that only serves the existing top 10-15 power schools caps the maximum number of interested fans. It's bad business. All the evidence you need is the CFP TV ratings that continue to slide year after year.

Too many turnovers that turned into fast break points for FAU. That’s the difference. Agree with the others that the offense actually looked balanced…up until about 7 minutes left. Then we got into our familiar tight shell and everything has to be on Perry.

Whew