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Layne's grandmother is bravely battling cancer and his decision was based on staying closer to her and the rest of the family as they support her during this difficult time. UNT did the right thing for this young man by letting him out of his signed NLI.

Give you? This player disrespected Longwood and shows no loyalty or commitment. And you're fine with it... . . . . .

At Longwood last season... 34 games played......16 starts 25 minutes per game 11.3 ppg 5.6 rpg 62 assists.......56 turnovers .374 FG%.......346 from three point land

Sounds like he was a pretty good prospect coming out of high school. "Brock Vice is a Creighton Bluejay. The 6-foot-10 power forward Brock Vice (Germantown, Tenn. / Houston HS) has signed a National Letter of Intent to attend Creighton and play for the Bluejays. He's ranked as the nation's No. 33 best center prospect by 247Sports and the No. 3 overall player in the state of Tennessee" Brock Vice is a Creighton Bluejay (247sports.com)

This sounds like a marriage counseling session that went off the rails. Nobody needs to be reminded when the season starts that they declared their intention to quit supporting the school during the offseason. Everybody knows supporting UNT is like herpes. You think it's finally gone and it flares up again.

I am on GOMEANGREEN.com. Therefore, I must overthink.

Just seems like he wanted to stay close to home. I doubt theres a need to overthink it.

This is great news. I wanted us to get this kid last year. He originally signed with St. Louis....when Phil Forte was on their staff. But, like Layne Taylor with us, Brock got out of his letter of intent (with SLU)....and was back out being recruited. I hoped with the connection with Forte....that we'd get him last year.....but he went to Creighton.

If it wasn't out of the bag before, it is now since you decided to post it on a public forum.

It’s INSANE!!! So we are encouraged to contribute to a NIL fund to pay players who have absolutely no loyalty to our school and then if we want to watch them play we must buy a ticket, pay for parking etc.? Count me out.

There are approximately zero reasons to recruit high school players. Let's use China Spring QB for example. He will come in and probably not play year 1. But all year he will eat our food, lift our weights, live in our dorm, attend our school. Then year 2 he might be the starter. Throw for perhaps 3k yards, 25ish TD 10ish INT. And those numbers might not even get us into a bowl game or conference contention. So, we basically just did everything for him with absolutely no ROI, ZERO. Nevertheless, that's enough for him to be relegated to the pros at Utah, or AZ, or Arkansas as a surefire backup making 150-200k a year over the next 3 years. What would keep him here? Do we have 150-200K to keep a P5 backup as our starter? Every year. Year after year after year? Do we even WANT to do that?

Glad to say @CMJ can rest easy. All the people who bugged the sh!t out of him for spelling Rubin's name wrong now have a new name they can get wrong: Massie instead of Massey.

The game starts at 6 p.m. Wednesday if anybody is near Denton and could make it. They were $15 each. I could use a couple but will give up all nine and stand in right field if that means more people rooting on the Green Wednesday. I wanted to keep them out of the hands of Aggie fans. I know this doesn't belong in this forum but wanted to maximize visibility to help benefit the softball ladies.

Yep. They want an NIL? I want a list of what players are being paid what amount and how their name, image or likeness is being used to earn these dollars. The fans give this money so we have a right to know. These kids entering the portal and signing elsewhere, I want to know what we offered/paid and what the new school is paying. Too much secrecy when the fan base is paying the salaries.

Just say "NO" to high school developmental players!

https://verbalcommits.com/players/johnathan-massie

We have complained for years about being left in the dark. The Mean Green Club was promised quarterly meetings that never took place, now there is little to no coverage of the spring practices, player movement is constant so the days of watching a last second scholarship player developing in to a Hall of Fame performer are long gone ala Johnny Quinn, there is little to no fan engagement, etc... It just keeps getting worse and without a push to really involve the fans, I foresee a bleak future. They, the AD, has to create excitement around the team/program or Apogee will just become a waste of money, the new basketball arena will never happen and future adds like baseball will just be an idea that came too late. The days of the G5's are on their way out. It will be whittled down to the top 40 or 50 programs as D1. We might as well go back to our D1AA days and play at the FCS level. I am just about done with sports from a financial commitment position. The greed has ruined it for me. There is zero loyalty towards the program by the players. It is all about them and how much money they can cram in their pockets and it appears our basketball coach encourages the lack of loyalty. I will watch on television, but that's about it, much like pro sports have become. I have no interest in attending a Cowboys' game live once the prices became ridiculous, same with the Mav's and Rangers' in that stupid new ballpark that was a waste of money. I had arrived at a point where I was only willing to invest in watching North Texas live, but the current situation has ruined that as well. The future of all of college sports is a disaster if some type of control isn't put in place. It is ridiculous and very sad. Guess I will end up spending my money on golf, fine food and drink, drugs, etc. and become a more interesting person.

I was reading about this a few hours ago. This is basically the start of revenue sharing... It was the goal. They took a huge step reaching that goal in Virgina. I'm glad I laughed at the notion of "student"-athlete 20 years ago. The idea of student is so far removed it's laughable. I thought it was laughable in the early 00s. It's a clown town joke nowadays. Not all athletes. Because I don't know any player individually. But what I do know is that acceptance standards have been dumbed down to community college levels of acceptance over the last 30+ years, and that goes for some pretty elite universities. Now, those lowly standards are still in place. Then, classes are now exclusively taken online for countless athletes. As of 10+ years ago, athletic departments provide tutors, essay editors, etc. To add, multiple universities have been caught creating made up academic programs to filter their athletes through. Not to mention the universities being caught fudging grades and having their assigned tutors complete their online coursework. And we're sitting here still calling these athletes "student"-athletes all the while trying to keep a straight face.

Is our coaching staff scrambling to field a football team for 2024? This portal crap and the ability to transfer at anytime, anywhere just takes the fun out of college football. For me at least.

A lot of you guys still haven't learned.... Many times, dudes transferring from a High-Major/P5 to NT looking for more PT aren't nearly as good as dudes transferring from a Low-Major/FCS, or even D2.

Dang... after 7 years of success you'd think the company we keep on lists like this wouldn't look like THIS. Embarrassing.

Pretty sure that's the same high school as Aaron Scott.

First year in 20+ that I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on renewing my 4 season football tickets. Tired of never "winning the big game", tired of "it's about me", and "show me the money". Very little or no loyalty to "the team or school". Maybe I'm too old to be a college football/basketball fan.....

Fanbase? What fanbase? Even the hardcore followers on gmg are walking away. Very little interest or traffic anymore. Covid, the portal, NIL and the economy have all taken a hit on what little fan base we had. Ignoring, or excluding your most ardent supporters during Spring Practice was a pretty shallow decision as well. I guess when we start the season 6-0 the fans will magically start to show up at Datcu.

I saw enough of him to strongly believe he would have helped this team from day 1 https://www.cbssports.com/watch/college-basketball/video/pro-16-recap-layne-taylor-college-basketball-recruiting-weekly

This is an interesting pickup for us. This guy doesn’t conform to the typical transfer profile that we should be focusing on: highly productive player at a low-major/D2 or a formerly productive player at high-major/mid-major who needs a change of scenery. Brock Vice has played ZERO real college basketball. But finding a player who can be productive for us at the center position is going to take some creativity. Need to replace Tylor Perry or Jason Edwards? Not fun, but there are LOTS of fast young men 5’9 or taller who can dribble and shoot that the marketplace has undervalued. Ross Hodge can take his pick. There just aren’t very many 18-24 year-old humans who are 6’9 or taller. And the marketplace places a very high price on those who are that tall AND possess any degree of athleticism or basketball skill. Which brings us back to Brock Vice, who redshirted on a VERY good Creighton team that finished 25-10 last season (second-place in the Big East). The starting center on that team was Ryan Kalkbrenner, a 7’1 monster who averaged 17 points, 8 rebounds and 3 blocked shots a game. His backup also put up good numbers in very limited minutes. So Vice hasn’t been a productive college player yet, but atleast he has a good excuse. With both players in front of him on the depth chart eligible to come back to Creighton next season, Vice needs a change of scenery to get his oversized sneakers on the court. He’s 6-10. Can rebound AND shoot. Was an outstanding high school and AAU basketball player. And has enough meat on his bones and athleticism to have been a standout high school football player. This is exactly the kind of kid that Ross should be landing. We did not have a player like this guy on our team last season and it hurt us all year. Welcome to Denton!

Yes. But not that that means anything any more.

Averaged 17.5ppg and 14 rpg his senior year in High School. The guy's a rebounder's rebounder. (from his Creighton bio) • Utilized his redshirt option. • Entered transfer portal on March 31, 2024. • Averaged 4.7 points and 6.0 rebounds in just 9.0 minutes per game in the Bahamas. • A rebounding machine, he snared eight rebounds in just under 10 minutes of Creighton’s exhibition game win vs. Wayne State (Nov. 3). • Averaged 17.5 points and 14.0 rebounds per game as a senior, earning All-District honors. • Former Houston (Tenn.) High School teammate of current Bluejay teammates Johnathan Lawson and Mason Miller, where they were coached by Mason’s dad Mike Miller. • Was also an All-Region 8-6A wide receiver on the football team, leading the team in both receptions and touchdowns. • Father Vance is the offensive line coach for UNLV Football who has also worked at Virginia Tech, Memphis, Georgia and Clemson in his career.

His junior year at Houston High School in Germantown.....he averaged 19ppg and 10 rpg. And he was a stud WR on their football team. https://slubillikens.com/news/2022/11/9/mens-basketball-brock-vice-signs-with-billikens.aspx

I’m not the type who’s going to say, “I’m done with college sports” and that be it. I’m moreso the guy whose interest is just going to wane to the point that I don’t watch anymore. It would actually free up a lot of time that I could be more productive🤣🤣

dumb --dumb

That's not a bad idea. I don't see it happening though.

I thought I saw it was just long wood for three years. I stand corrected. Just another dude floating around never happy. These kids are going to struggle bouncing around out there in real life. 10 jobs 15 wife’s 20 countries…. I mean I guess whatever. That’s normal… just move move move move because it’s all about you all the time.

Marcus wasn't with the team during spring ball.

I stand by Metzler's in Denton. Great food, reasonably priced and long time supporters of UNT.

Back-to back National Polo Champs! Beat Smut in Virginia 17-8. The Phonies didn't have the horses to keep up with us...

I nominate Harry, SUMG, Firefightin Rick and Scott Campbell and UNT Lifer. For starters.

Maybe my anticipations were too high for him and I thought he would be a major contributor early. If he wasn’t coming here I’d just assume he had something we would perceive as a step up. But maybe this was a more mutual parting?? Otherwise I am a bit perplexed.

This is an example of saying a lot while saying absolutely nothing.

This is humiliating.

Looks good on video and paper. Just can't get excited these day when guys are here today and gone tomorrow.

I'm gonna put that on a T-Shirt

sad day for college sports. They're now just "athletes" & go to the highest bidder.

On this I agree 100%. Wish it was still this way. College football is getting way out of hand. Maybe it's just me.

Is that a bad thing? That's what companies are in business for.

That is correct. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897338/johnathan-massie One year left?

I’m referring to any communication about the program.

Good for him. I'm glad he found somewhere close to home that he can play right away.