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We need SL to work out. He has built the bridges we desperately needed for so long. I don’t know for sure, but I think we lose all that and any potential momentum if he’s let go after 2021. There is no way Wren’s seat is truly hot. Anyone saying so is just trying to throw their own matches on his chair. Let’s get a DC and right this ship.

Can’t imagine Baker would be let go for football before having ever actually had a chance to make a hire of his own.

ULM hires a Bowden that has been overlooked by every other program in this damn country and RichRod who's only long term success is his nickname. Can we at least wait and see who is hired before we burn this to the ground? It is all speculation at best.

Shouldn't Wren share some of the blame if this goes down as expected?

With the new developments in the transfer portal, did the coaches have sit down meeting with the players? Did they hear how they are seen as fitting in moving forward and not like it? There are always many reasons for transferring. Note - Every year players enter the portal and not all find new homes.

Players also need to be careful. Look at Garnett Burke. He hit the portal in Oct, and they last I saw he was tweeting offer from Kilgore JC and D2 (?) schools. The grass is not always greener

is the longest post without any information in the history of the forum?

Clearing house for a new DC to input his guys?

You rambled off a bunch of guys assuming that A, they’d be interested, and B, they’d be an improvement over what was one of the hottest up and coming young coaches in college football. At this point we need Seth as much as he needs us, our job would be 100 times more attractive if he is hired away than it will be if he is the 7th consecutive coach to be fired here over the last 39 years.

So far, no big deal on these transfers. Now if we lose Stout, either Murphy, or Novil to the transfer portal, we're in trouble.

I'd be more worried if they were starters. Backups chasing playing time? It's the new normal.

if we repeat last year he is gone. I hope he goes undefeated and wins conference. If he wins 7-8 games and a bowl and the overall teams shows improvement I think he stay. If he wins 2 to 4 games I don't think a snowballs chance in hell he will make it to another season.

I agree with everything you said.. besides this sentence. I dont think Wren seat is hot at all. His last two hires (softball and Basketball) are winning conference championships

These were the right decisions. Especially Jennings.

The Mean Green Nation thanks all of you who are donating the 5+ million to buy out Seth's contract. Wren is in his office waiting for the checks to be dropped off. Please hurry!

Same. These guys are all guys I would’ve expected to leave even if the rules hadn’t changed, or guys who would’ve had their eligibility expire this season anyways. Sanders and Johnson, best of luck to them, but we needed to move on from them at least from being in the starting lineup. Doubt they want to spend their extra season sitting or teaching a guy taking their spot. Here is who else we know is leaving: - Greg White, redshirt junior receiver who would probably be our 5th receiver behind guys who have more remaining eligibility than him. - Brian Parish, redshirt junior offensive lineman who would be at best out 4th tackle with the guys ahead of him having as much or more eligibility remaining. - Chris Thornton, redshirt junior linebacker who was never in the two deep except when we were thin at LB because of COVID.

Yeah, get back to me when it’s not little used guys or grad transfers. Otherwise, I’m gonna go about my day.

With the extra eligibility and some might be looking at who is coming in and decide to look elsewhere.

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You would think that the Million+ we are paying him, that he would have a virtual talk with all us paying his bill. Then, we would not have to be here speculating on "where are we going in the future".

2 can play that game lol

You generally have great takes and your coordinator info is exactly spot on, but this isn’t true. Wren and boosters both pushed the extension hard. Look I’m team Wren all the way but Wren has actively lobbied for extensions and more money across all sports (as he should) from soccer to Grant. He wants to expand budgets and this is a way to gradually do that. Football has been his Achilles heel so far - I don’t believe SL has accepted enough guidance from WB. That is on Wren, the department was given a much greater budget and it’s up to him to make certain its used correctly rather than wasted. With this coordinator hire Wren is finally saying use the money you have we aren’t just expanding your asst. pool $ with out results since it’s already a healthy amount for a G5. This is a welcome change in my book, but what SL does with this new normal is going to be pivotal to his coaching trajectory. He can take advice and adapt like he did with recruiting or have his time here cut short. Hoping he’s able to learn a new trick.

Good Lord people. White had been passed by on the depth chart by younger, better players. I wish him well, but come on. Our WR's all realize if they work hard, they can put up big numbers and become an All-American in this system. Darden is their example.

Apparently, about to announce the new DC. Not making him terminate coaches, that he doesn't want.

There's a parking spot at Apogee with your name on it

To get back on subject, I think we will be see a much improved defense with the new DC. I anticipate an announcement in the near future.

So now, in your opinion, in addition to not being able to coach Seth has played no role in the improved recruiting?

Maybe there were team meetings on Monday/Tuesday. Perhaps it was also due to players not enrolling for the new semester Under the college transfer policy, when a student-athlete informs a school that he wishes to transfer, that institution has two business days to enter that athlete's name into a national transfer portal. Once the student-athlete's name is in the database, other coaches from any school can contact that individual.

Maybe the announcement is coming and thats why some guys are jumping ship.

I don’t know why people keep thinking he’s going to turn this thing around. Even when he had the talent he showed he couldn’t capitalize.

This. I also have to wonder if the coaches straight up told them, "you aren't in our future plans so consider going elsewhere."

Wow it’s almost as if we had to replace a historic starting quarterback, quarterback coach, both line coaches, and all three coordinators in a year where we skipped spring practice.

sorry but how was this not his extension? I agree he did not hire, but he was the AD for the extension, if he is not the one extending his coaches, then why is he AD? Just asking?

Another assumption. I get it, SL is on the hot seat but my goodness, we are kicking him out the door before we know who his DC will be next year and before the season is even played.

How about that? I inadvertently broke some news, go me.

Yeah, I saw that. Off the top of your head. Good deal. Ok, thanks for the tip.

If you'll just write the check for a few million right now, I'm sure that can happen...

I think we may already have a DC in pocket. I also saw the list of coaches shows that the DLine and Corners coaches are “to be determined”. There is no listing for DC whatsoever. That leads me to believe they are building the bio for whomever they hired.

better?

We just lost our starting CB and Safety....and our D already sucked.

hey big guy more is coming hang on.

100% Correct. I realize people are frustrated but but please take a moment to look back at our history of AD's. I believe Sl is building inroads with his recruiting (hopefully he does not end up being like Frank Wilson - able to recruit but crap at coaching). I am optimistically hopeful that we get a good DC. It seems he might have tried to go big at his first choice but it didn't work out. Guess what, that happens all of the time. Let's hope for his success and not his failure.

anything is better than what we had. Yes I like him

Agreed.. but cant really bring up RV he was only winning at soccer.. lol

McCasland, is helping for sure. But we're in Texas after all... if you run an athletic department at a D1 school, and your football program is dragging ass, your seat can't be comfortable. As great as ladies soccer, softball, volleyball, golf, etc... are, or can be at times, they are tertiary when considering an AD's effectiveness. Ask RV.

Good luck to him, I think he saw writing on the wall here and wants to play.