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I suspect everyone's eyes were glued to MSNBC this afternoon and know about this anyway... MSNBC chose to broadcast their story about the football season cancellations from none other than good old North Texas. IIRC, the correspondent was named David Chesky who interviewed Mike Scurrico (sp) who spoke to the financial damage the cancelation would bring. Apogee was shown in the background. It is always nice to see an unexpected story from our alma mater!

Rico Bussey chose the wrong school to transfer to.

I already did that with conference basketball tournament tickets that I bought and was never able to use. The financial dire straits up there aren’t due to people like me who religiously buy tickets, they’re due to the thousands of alumni they’ve never managed to convince to give ANYTHING

I’m sure the athletic department will (understandably) wait until the last minute to begin that process. No judgement whatsoever but I encourage those who are able to either leave your money in or at least make some form of a donation to do so. Things are going to be reeeeal tough up there. Were this a different era of Mean Green athletics I’d probably ask for my money back but Wren and co have worked so hard and we have come so far.

There has to be a domino effect because of the liability issue. Organizations with in your industry are shutting down to protect students. I believe all will have to follow.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/politics/jordan-osu-wrestlers-strauss-invs/index.html The D or R doesn't matter - it is about former wrestlers accusing Gym Jordan of a cover-up of college athletic abuses. Which is where TTG's comment stems.

Looks like he's second to last in this video. Seems to be moving well with no brace

If the SBC plays and somehow C-USA doesn’t.....I’m going to lose my sh*t 😂🧐

Could there be a silver lining in this for UNT? With Big 10 , MWC, and MAC out with PAC 12 probably to follow. there seems to be be a void of "fall ball" games to be televised. Does this open any doors for CUSA,AAC, and SBC to fill that void? I am clueless on this issue but brought it up assuming greater minds might share their knowledge.

If there are no injuries (or covid events) happing to our RB's, I would like to be the first to say that we really look loaded at that position.

Delay is smart. Get the guys past last day to enroll and they can’t do immediate transfer.

“If any portion of the 2020 home football schedule is impacted by COVID-19 resulting in games being cancelled or the number of in-person fans being limited, Mean Green season ticket holders will have the option to apply payments to future UNT Athletics events, convert payments to donations to the Mean Green Scholarship Fund or receive a refund.” https://meangreensports.com/news/2020/5/26/tickets-mean-green-football-season-ticket-assurance-program-announced.aspx

2 hour drive from Las Vegas in one of the most scenic regions of the USA. Close to Zion national park, Bryce Canyon another hour north. Spectacular outdoors options. nice little stadium at the foothills of red rock mountains. drove through their on many a hiking trips to mountains when living in LV. GMG

I heard the MWC isn’t playing in the fall. This is getting weird as it may come down to an odd mix of schools that want to play.

wouldn't a canceled season be less expensive on the fan?

So no one thinks he got hosed by the NFL? I think this sucks... Yeah, its cool he can work with his old coach and work with Drummond... but does it mean he is done chasing the dream? Or does this give him the flexibility to still try out for teams and get a paycheck? I think he for sure got screwed due to the pandemic. Teams cant take too many risks right now. Someone would need to take a risk on Mason.

Any updates on Siggers knee? Is he practicing? Concerning because we’ve heard very little so far. Hope he’ll be back strong for us.

Correct me if I'm wrong (like that will be a problem), but I believe the biggest cost of renewing season tickets is the "donation" to the Mean Green Scholarship Fund. When I sent my season ticket money in, the required "donation" was greater than the cost of the tickets. Plus, I was encouraged, almost chided to increase my donation in order to get a better parking spot in the black lot. I signed up for the "plus 10 (%)" option and I still didn't qualify for the black lot. That means there were the equivalent number of donors in the green, white, and black lots that donated more than me. I don't know what that number is, but I would think it's at least all the suite holders and all the club seat members. I'm looking forward to football. GO MEAN GREEN

Grades is the only explanation I can come up with. Either that or they don't allow campus tours prior to kids committing.

Not sure how this impacts his eligibility, but I can think of worse places to be social distancing in a pandemic. Having to spend an extra year in Hawaii might not be that bad of a deal.

I dunno. I’m one the fence as to whether or not I put much credence into what Ralph D. Russo tweets about. 😉

University dorms will be far from empty this school year. Residence halls at Texas Woman’s University and the University of North Texas will likely see a dip in occupancy compared to previous years, but thousands of students are still on track to move to town in the coming week. Monica Mendez-Grant, vice president for student life, estimated dorms would be 75% full this year compared to roughly 93% at the start of the 2019-20 school year. “We have actually recalibrated the occupancy and so we have a larger number of single rooms, and there cannot be more than two students to any room,” Mendez-Grant said. read more: https://dentonrc.com/education/thousands-of-students-still-on-track-to-hit-denton-next-weekend/article_e2bba49d-1183-54e7-9e43-57bae51c554a.html

It seems like the pandemonium is because this one thing is being tracked like nothing ever before. It won’t be long before they find that the incidences of other things, and their possible connections to other other things, make life just too risky to live. It has been all along.

I just don’t know how much there is available to add to the current bench at this point in time. The time for cutting and replacing dead weight was in April and May.

Spriing in the MWC, they better be a running team because those spring winds can be tough in many of MWC schools locations. Not unusual to see 50 plus MPH wins in Albuquerque, Las Vegas, Nevada and it can be tough in Wyoming, CSU in the winter (spring).

Well we are apparently playing football!

I think you can either opt for a refund or credit the money to next years tickets. I don’t think it’s a refund or else it’s just a donation thing.

I don't think there is anyway that fall football occurs. If it does, those teams that play would lose a year of eligibility for players; while those that sitout will gain a year of training for their players. I am not sure if I were a senior football player, I would want to play my last year in empty stadiums.

Fan roster update: I'm up 25lbs. It ain't muscle, I can assure you of that.

Mason was great, but come on...a God?🤣🤣🤣

Expect the PAC 12 to cancel next. So sad for all the players, coaches, fans and the universities. But, can you really blame them with all the uncertainty surrounding this virus and the uncertainty surrounding potential liability issues? Lots and lots of things to be sorted out now. And, call me skeptical, but all these schools saying they will try to play in the spring....not so much I think. Hope so, but the challenges would be massive in my opinion. Just my opinion. Bummer all the way around!

Line starts back there, Silver.

So, with these schools who are delaying until spring and the others deciding to play this fall, will they simply play each other in the spring? Not sure how this works. Seems to me that it should be all in, or not at all. Let's play ball! GO MEAN GREEN!

Thanks! Yes, great news. Surprised he wasn’t even wearing a brace.

Me since Spring Break:

Unless NCAA steps in with an emergency rule players at schools not playing get a free transfer as long as they don’t miss last day to enroll at the new school

If I remember correctly, they’ve said we’ll have 3 options. 1. consider it a donation to the program and forget about it. 2. apply the funds towards next years tickets, which will probably be more expensive in an effort to recoup some lost income. 3. Request a refund. I'm assuming none of this applies to the MGSF donation part of the season ticket purchase. I think that part will be non refundable.

Makes sense. PAC-12 isn’t playing non-conference. Big Sky pulled the plug. That left BYU, UTEP, and NMSU as only possible FBS opponents in the region. Newcomer Dixie State is the only FCS. Lot of flying in the MWC including all games involving Hawaii. Outside the front range of Wyoming, CSU, AFA not many bus trips

Any job right now is a win. He was an outsider in the best of times simply because of tangibles. He would be an asset wherever he landed, this is just a stepping stone to head coach several years from now. Glad he got it

College football saw its fair share of opt outs so far, notably with players like Micah Parsons (Penn State), Rashod Bateman (Minnesota) and Caleb Farley (Virginia), but others are speaking up with their wishes to play. Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence is leading the charge of “#WeWantToPlay” on social media, with others like Ohio State’s Justin Fields and North Carolina’s Sam Howell following suit. “The #WeWantToPlay movement is incredible,” CBS Sports’ Barrett Sallee tweeted. “So great to see players stand up for themselves, take ownership, and show that they want to be out there. Proof that it’s irresponsible to tell people what you think they should think rather than listening to what they actually do think.” https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Trevor-Lawrence-college-football-players-we-want-to-play-movement-Justin-Fields-Sam-Howell-Ian-Book-COVID-19-season-cancelation-150060638/#150060638_1

Is there such thing as subject matter that isn’t politics these days?

Last sentence of the article: "Fine remains training for the NFL, which is his top priority. But around his rigid training schedule, he's hoping to mold the next great Oklahoma high school quarterback."

Yeah - I assumed he would slip right into be a GA here...But I know those slots are prized and fill fast...Maybe MF had his sights on going pro, so applying for GA wasnt his Plan B. Good for him. He'll make a great coach.

I want the XFL to be successful so Mason can show some skills on the field again. Good place for Him in the meantime. Go Mason!

I think most can agree that the PRC bungled their initial response. Suppression of truth or criticism is always going to be their initial reaction, as it is in any authoritarian society. Going back to @THOR's question about how the outcome here could have been different, I point you to the above statement. Our own leaders met this coming crisis in a similar fashion. Countries that contained this effectively did so early and through decisive measures with a combination of mask wearing, quarantines, internal and external travel restrictions, widespread testing, contact tracing, and information campaigns. It is impossible to take one country's example and use it as a template for the US or another country, but let me take a stab at it in general. First, from the very start our top leadership should have clearly messaged that this was a national security and public health threat (yes national security - not all national security threats are from or solved by a military). Instead we were given denials and vague promises that it all was well. It wasn't. It still isn't and it has taken until the end of July for the leadership to finally admit that. It was only in the last couple of weeks that the President signaled it was important to wear a mask despite rules in many cities and states that require them. Instead we got tweets encouraging resistance to mask and quarantine measures. We also would have benefited from a unified response from the National Security Council directorate for global health and security and bio-defense but unfortunately it was disbanded in 2018. Not having a QB to run the offense (well in this case defense) slowed our response. Our mask policy was also kind of a disaster. In many Asian countries, mask wearing is pretty normal for people with illnesses. We not only don't have that culture, but due to our supply chain weaknesses we didn't have the extra stockpiles to push for early adoption of mask wearing. Simply put, there was an impossible decision to make: push for ordinary citizens to wear masks or end up with medical workers without masks. In some cases, medical workers still ended up without masks, but had Americans gone out and bought masks like they did toilet paper, we would have had maskless doctors all over the country. Most of our masks are made in China or other countries where they needed the supply themselves. Had we ramped up domestic production of personal protective equipment (PPE) early on, we might have been able to push masks earlier and saved more lives. We had the legal mechanism to do so, but it didn't happen. Testing was another disaster. We rejected a WHO offer for tests and decided to make our own. That was fumbled and ended up with bad tests. Also, FDA rules initially prevented state and commercial labs from developing their own coronavirus diagnostic tests, even if they could develop coronavirus PCR primers on their own. So we ended up behind the curve in testing by MILLIONS compared to other countries. If you don't test enough, you can't contain the virus. You have to know where the outbreaks are happening in order to set the right policies for that location. Which leads me to contact tracing. We just didn't do it sufficiently. I know of many people who flew into the United States without any medical screening or registration for contact tracing. No one even asked them from which countries they had traveled. If someone ends up sick and they just flew in from overseas, you would want to know everyone they contacted including their flight and then test all of them. But we didn't have enough tests, so it was a moot point in some ways. In contrast, where I live all flights were canceled in March and then anyone who came in on special repatriation flights was tested and put in quarantine. After two negative tests several days apart, then they could go home to self-isolate for two weeks. If they tested positive they completed their quarantine in a special hospital. In the US, you showed your passport and then went to Chilis with your friends for margs and fajitas. A lot of this comes down to leadership. At the national, state, and local level many politicians were more concerned with the next election than with a real public health response to a national level threat. We had the experience of Wuhan and Italy to see what a poor response looked like. And we had South Korea and Singapore to see what a good response looked like. As I said initially, we could not have just laid down a Korean template here and fixed everything, but we certainly could have tried to pull lessons learned from around the world to come up with a response early enough to limit the damage. We did not. Thomas, I hope this answers your question, at least in part. TL;DR version: decisive action and clear messaging, ramp up domestic PPE supply chain, use existing tests instead of wait to mess up our own, better contact tracing and arrivals control, and masks earlier.