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Good god stop with the we sucked forever so it's okay to suck again... hell no, we are putting money into the program like never before and expect to see results that follows... you have the wrong attitude

I guess Central Arkansas, McNeese State, Incarnate Word and Lamar are all outrecruiting us since they all held Abilene Christian to fewer points than we did? Rick

UNTs winning percentage from 1995-2015? 33% UNTs winning percentage so far under Seth? 54% but yeah.. fire the guy bc the year isn’t what you expected.

We need to quit jacking around with a fashion show every week. Go back to white or green. WTH happened to MEAN GREEN?

*runs the scheme* *has absolutely no say in the players brought in to run HIS scheme* Makes sense.

Had nothing to do with the way we played, but...….. YUCK! Those things were awful looking!

So you say Reffert has no say in recruiting? 🤣 Yes, I gave your post a down vote because that's a really dumb statement.

There is nothing like funeral gray to get the team hyped up for a game.

Quite honestly, SL should be making this change this week. Promote somebody and demote Reffett. Its absolutely disgraceful how poor we are on that side of the ball. Its one thing for SMU and UH to make us look like clowns, but f'ing Charlotte?

Agree. Looks like the put the white unis in the wash with the black ones.

I can, without a doubt, guarantee that we will NOT lose to ODU at Apogee this year. Call it a premonition.

I think this season wouldn’t be so hard on everyone had Seth not pulled a June Jones on us. Everyone is questioning his focus. It was off during the circus of a bowl week last year and has bled over into this season.

And sometimes you restart an old thread to comment multiple times about just how right you were in the prediction department. 😉

Yep Littrell is lucky to have UNT. It’s not the other way around.

This might be the dumbest thread I've seen on here in a while. The head of the defense is not responsible for the recruitment, mismanagement, and ill-preparedness of the defense? Save yourself the embarrassment and delete this thread.

Pay top dollar, expect top product. Pretty simple.

Everytime I see posts like this it makes me sad. we’re so pathetic

A fan base bailing after a down year isn’t exactly the foundation for a strong athletic program.

These beauties are the only road uniform we need... and we tend to win in them.

I’ve never seen a gif that more perfectly sums up being a UNT fan than this one...only thing missing is being surrounded by fellow UNT alumni in P5 t-shirts or ones that are cheering wildly for our struggles because they hate football.

They should be retired along with Unlucky the Squirrel. Both of them have caused nothing but bad things to happen.

Also it's absolutely absurd to say that Reffett isn't responsible for the horrible tackling technique. They're using their arms, not their bodies. It's like they're afraid of contact. It is obvious the defensive coaching is the culprit here and we had some outstanding players in the backfield that really bailed us out last year and if they got their hands on a poorly thrown pass, they would get the INT.

Novil is doing GREAT at nose tackle. He's recorded numerous TFLs, which is impressive considering he's usually double teamed. Dion's not the problem. It's the scheme. If you don't have a backfield that can run it you get burned bad, which is what we saw in 2017 and is what we are seeing this year.

I’m all on-board with any recruiting perspective, but I think we have issues beyond our Jimmies and Joe’s. Sometimes it’s just time for some new blood. It can give these guys a fresh outlook and focus. Sumlin just fired his DC yesterday, after 3 straight weekends of allowing 45 points. I actually think if you’re going to make a change mid-season, this could be a good time for us. Get the new blood a chance to prep for La Tech and show us what he can do.

Those D Linemen up front stances are bad ....I mean lazy bad.

Do you actually follow UNT sports? WB made more changes here in a year than had been made in a decade. Want to criticize? Fine. But this comment is nuts if you actually followed. Vito wrote a story on how many changes there were because there were so many. It seemed like it was half the staff.

Cool story bro

For the same money? A lot of coaches would come here for a 1.8M salary, top 3 CUSA coaching salary pool, geographical footprint for recruiting and their own personal/family entertainment, and a brand new IPF. I think several eligible candidates would love to come here.

At next seasons end, SL will probably still be the highest paid coach in CUSA (or at least top 2) and will have 3 losing seasons out of 5, no bowl wins, no CUSA trophies, and a disturbing amount of ugly losses to show for it. Year 6, we'll be closing in on a decade of SL and there is ZERO evidence of a good 2021 campaign. He does not value defensive football and he does not recruit well enough on the defensive side of the ball. He must replace his defensive staff and recruiting staff while going heavy JUCO to shore up holes to even be competitive in 2020. His value blows. His worth and his productivity do not correlate in any case.

Renfro has gone way above and beyond as a commit with things he’s posted on Twitter about leaving a legacy here, and hanging out with other commits. Very much looking forward to seeing Kade in Mean Green uniform. Hopefully some of real fans on Twitter expressed something to that effect.

For those of you bailing...

I want to win, but this new rules provides an opportunity to play some redshirts without burning. We could look at some defensive guys. I would really like to see Addaway carry a few times.

This thread is lunacy.

The 3-3-5 is basically saying the DBs aren’t good enough so they have to put another LB to help in coverage. It works for good teams with good DCs unlike here. Ref needs to be gone. He has a big part in this seasons failure

Fair enough. And I agree with your assessment above my comment and gave you the up-vote. I have seen quite a few times this season where a head coach gets rid of an under-performing coordinator and they see a resurgence on that side of the ball with new blood and new ideas. While that is not a guarantee with these current players, now is the time to try something new and prepare for next season. What we currently have hasn't worked for years.

MIGHT JUST HANG OUT AT THE VAN FOR THIS ONE

Here’s your sign: Central Arkansas, McNeese State, Incarnate Word and Lamar....who are all FCS were able to hold 5-4 Abilene Christian to fewer points than North Texas did. Rick

Wow, well for starters, this young lad is better...apparently. And for 1.1M less. Yay us!

Preach. Also, I am not on the Fire Littrell train, but part of that fat contract he got is decision making to fire horrible assistants before they sink him. He needs to right this ship next year or the burners on his seat need to be turned up. You can't be the highest paid coach in the conference with no conference championship wins and no bowl wins.

Why does our fan base think in this small time way? Folks......there’s other options than just those we’ve already had. We don’t have to regurgitate If and when we hire another head coach,..in any sport,... we’ll go after the best we can afford, which is more than we have ever been able to afford before. Rick

From today on the ESPN app: Coach Kyle Shanahan qualified Wilson's (head) injury as a stinger in his post-game press conference after defeating the Panthers on Sunday, adding that Wilson's not in the concussion protocol, Matt Maiocco of NBC Sports Bay Area reports.

Is it maybe possible that Seth overachieved his roster wide talent in the first three years with coaching and the help of a few stellar players and that we have just regressed back to the average. Recruiting matters. We seem to have fixed that problem but won’t start to see the results until next year.

I may not be traveling home on a private jet this evening from Charlotte, but I did draw A30 for my Southwest flight.

There is not quality at OL or DL in either class. And I'm not having all of the answers. I'm just pointing out the problems. It's not my job to come up with solutions.

How about we can Reffet and see what happens?

Before pulling trigger on Seth ask yourself who you could get that's significantly better for the same money. Not pie in the sky, but real people.

The players/coaches quitting is pure BS. If the players quit, they wouldn’t have scored 38 pts! And Littrell has a very long career ahead of him, it would be extremely foolish to “quit” on the team.

Will Seth be at practices or out trying to get a new job?

I will renew because Seth won’t take the patch with him. Plus I love the party in the stands. Witnessed horrific MG seasons and this is mild by comparison. Disappointing- disgustingly so, but can’t abandon my football team. I’m living through this nightmare in the EPL too but it only will make the future turnaround that much sweeter and the beer is still cold until then. down UTEP GMG