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Hey guys! Just joined the community - I'm Connor and I help run Homefield. We make premium (read: extra comfortable) college apparel, and try to make unique/vintage designs for schools of all sizes. We know that no matter how much research we do, it'll never compare to the knowledge of die-hards, which is why we joined this community. We just became licensed for UNT, and we're still in the research phase of making sure we make thoughtful UNT apparel for when we do launch it. This is where you come in. No one loves the Mean Green and the school more than you, and we want to learn from the experts. Mainly: what are your favorite UNT logos/traditions? We only want to make apparel that serves the most passionate fans, and we take that input quite seriously. Even if you don't have any favorite logos/traditions, if you ever are thinking about ordering some UNT stuff when it goes live, let me know and I'll be sure to hook you up with a solid discount. Thanks, Connor

I’ve always wanted to see more of the flying worm from the 70s but also the simple NT design as well. One last thing putting a vintage scrappy on a shirt....oh and can we please stick with one shade of green? 😓 GMG

For throwbacks the 60’s interlocked NT is popular.. But not as popular as the 70’s era “Flyn’ Worm”. For current logos,...the logo that is a derivative of the “Flyin’ Worm” is the “Son Of Worm”...or as we like to call it The SOW, and is the standard mark for the Mean Green.. And the flag design that is very popular and was voted on and chosen by our fan base is the “North Texas Battle Flag”. Rick

If this is actually serious: Rule # 1 - Pantone 356 and White - Never anything else . Rule # 2 - In case of any doubt or confusion, read Rule # 1 again. Copper, Silver, Gray, Black, Blue and Orange, Forrest Green, and Khaki are not acceptable for textile merchandise. All other logos are either secondary or tiny niche fetishes.

Lance Dunbar was just drafted by the Dallas Renegades in the 8th round.. Highest North Texas Player ever in an XFL Draft

What is interesting to me, and something @Harry can be proud of as well is that two of our posters here on gmg designed two of them. greengrenade2 (passed away 4 years ago) designed the Flyin’ Worm in the early 70’s for Coach Fry,...and @drex created the battle flag in ‘86 for a speaking event for Dr. Hurley. Rick

I can’t wait for the day when attendance at UNT isn’t dependent on what happens on the field. For this program to go next level, we have got to drive up ticket sales and scholarship fund donors, and we have to get over all the excuses to not support this program. That’s going to be the biggest hurdle we face if/when a conference shake up happens in the near future.

Flying Worm!

To answer the original title of this thread? We have everything we need to take it to the next level. Only question is do we have a coach to take advantage of it, recruit to it, coach them up and win games. This is year 4. I would say we'll know if he's the answer in the next 2 years.

This current iteration of the Mean Green could learn a lot from Nate Brooks. The Sophomore & Junior version of Nate Brooks looked lost out there, but he kept working hard and put it together his Senior year, and now he's in the NFL!

Anything with our current logo (SOW), the green battle flag, the interlocking NT, and an authentic game jersey both green and white. I also endorse anything that reflects our Texas heritage, i.e., the state of Texas silhouette with the SOW on it.

Don’t use logic. This is the Internet.

This one is horse poo

From the 50's/60's. The first cartoon Scrappy. Legend has it that it was drawn by the legendary Bill McClanahan.

Exactly. Worst. Logo. Ever.

Please no

Care to define ‘poor’? Maybe even attach a record to it?

This! Honestly don’t think there is another logo I’d want besides the four FFR listed.

https://meangreensports.com/news/2019/10/10/football-beyond-the-green-the-indoor.aspx

Huge fan of the uniforms for Saturday. Love the all black & the new helmets we're breaking out. Hopefully the all black doesn't represent the funeral of our season Saturday.

Because it is not a mascot of the university. It is a freak of nature rodent.

Easy answer➡️ More fans who don’t let the previous week’s loss have them hunting quail or deer the next home game. 2 rainout games attendance disasters last Fall probably made it easy for Littrell to do what he almost did with KSU. All NCAA coaches want large audiences for their players—win, lose or (used to be) draws. Ever seen college football fans fill a stadium with below freezing weather & snow up to their butts? Very admirable. GMG!

I see what you're saying....and I want to believe you....but we were at UNT before Seth Littrell and we'll be here when he's gone. I want him to get this program to the point where he IS sought after by big programs. (I still say the KState thing is crap....but I seem to be in the minority) I want him to to win. That's all I care about. I don't need Littrell falling in love with Beth Marie's ice cream. It's nice but we need him to take advantage of what has been built for him and win games. Get us ranked, get us multiple bowl wins, get us knocking the door of NY6. Then he can go to Oklahoma State, Ole Miss....whatever. We need the UNT BRAND to be what sells recruits. Recruits go to Boise and UCF and UH because they are now brands. They don't have the coaches now that built them into what they are now. I'll give LIttrell credit for the culture change. And that can't go unnoticed. And hey...if Littrell wants to be our Gary Patterson or Bobby Bowden...great. Get us in the annual conversation nationally. But I honestly don't care if Littrell is here in 10 years....just take advantage of this infrastructure and get us on our way.

That's actually what I think the detractors are upset about. SL HASN'T learned or improved. We still get blown out of important games. We still can't field a defense that can stop a pass in peewee football. We are still relying on 2 or 3 players to save our asses. A lot would argue he's gotten worse rather than learn. On the flipside, Reeder definitely isn't my favorite guy this year, but he can still prove himself over time and improve. He gets that benefit of the doubt. Seth was halfway out the door, and now he's spinning in circles.

6. MUTS fans have sex with sheep slightly less often than WKy fans, hence the origins of their rivalry.

I've officially been broken by FPI's artificial intelligence algorithms and am now a 100% believer. Looks like we'll be going 7-5. Good enough to go to the Hawaii Bowl!!

MTSU 28 UNT24 Until or defense shows up I can't pick us to win. We seem to be going backwards. not forward on D.

I'll agree with this statement when I see us win games that really mean something.........on a consistent basis. Here is the record so far. We have yet to win a bowl game under SL. We have yet to win any regular games of great importance on a regular basis. 2017 (9-5 record) was the best example. We got curb stomped twice by FAU. And then for good measure, we got brutalized by Troy in the NO bowl. SL started off barely losing to Army in his first bowl here, and the subsequent bowl results are getting worse. 2018-North Texas (CUSA) 9/1 vs. Southern Methodist (5-7) W 46 23 9/8 vs. Incarnate Word (non-IA) W 58 16 9/15 @ Arkansas (2-10) W 44 17 9/22 @ Liberty (6-6) W 47 7 9/29 vs. *Louisiana Tech (8-5) L 27 29 10/6 @ *Texas-El Paso (1-11) W 27 24 10/13 vs. *Southern Mississippi (6-5) W 30 7 10/20 @ *Alabama-Birmingham (11-3) L 21 29 10/27 vs. *Rice (2-11) W 41 17 11/10 @ *Old Dominion (4-8) L 31 34 11/15 vs. *Florida Atlantic (5-7) W 41 38 11/24 @ *Texas-San Antonio (3-9) W 24 21 12/15 vs. Utah State (11-2) L 13 52 @ Albuquerque, NM New Mexico Bowl 9-4-0 450 314 2017-North Texas (CUSA) 9/2 vs. Lamar (non-IA) W 59 14 9/9 @ Southern Methodist (7-6) L 32 54 9/16 @ Iowa (8-5) L 14 31 9/23 vs. *Alabama-Birmingham (8-5) W 46 43 9/30 @ *Southern Mississippi (8-5) W 43 28 10/14 vs. *Texas-San Antonio (6-5) W 29 26 10/21 @ *Florida Atlantic (11-3) L 31 69 10/28 vs. *Old Dominion (5-7) W 45 38 11/4 @ *Louisiana Tech (7-6) W 24 23 11/11 vs. *Texas-El Paso (0-12) W 45 10 11/18 vs. Army (10-3) W 52 49 11/25 @ *Rice (1-11) W 30 14 12/2 vs. *Florida Atlantic (11-3) L 17 41 @ Boca Raton, FL CUSA Championship 12/16 vs. Troy (11-2) L 30 50 @ New Orleans, LA New Orleans Bowl 9-5-0 497 490 2016-North Texas (CUSA) 9/3 vs. Southern Methodist (5-7) L 21 34 9/10 vs. Bethune-Cookman (non-IA) W 41 20 9/17 @ Florida (9-4) L 0 32 9/24 @ *Rice (3-9) W 42 35 10/1 vs. *Middle Tennessee State (8-5) L 13 30 10/8 vs. *Marshall (3-9) W 38 21 10/22 @ Army (8-5) W 35 18 10/29 @ *Texas-San Antonio (6-7) L 17 31 11/5 vs. *Louisiana Tech (9-5) L 24 45 11/12 @ *Western Kentucky (11-3) L 7 45 11/19 vs. *Southern Mississippi (7-6) W 29 23 11/26 @ *Texas-El Paso (4-8) L 24 52 12/27 vs. Army (8-5) L 31 38 @ Dallas, TX Heart of Dallas Bowl 5-8-0 322 424

Mason has to be lying. I bet he doesn’t feel good like he says he does every time. He’s getting hit 20 times a game.

nice low bar set for good ole UNT. SL is set regardless of how this season or the next 5 seasons go, no real incentive.

All of these are good.

I like anything with the green Texas flag.

DRC: https://dentonrc.com/sports/football-fine-set-to-return-as-unt-looks-to-pull/article_8b5721c6-cb2e-5577-be24-66f745d55b7d.html

Says the UNT fan that hasn't missed a game at Kyle Field in two years.

FAU fan here, First off, I come in peace. I have been reading different message boards and getting a feel for how various fan bases are feeling at this point in the season. It's crazy to read through some of these boards and see how down on yourselves you guys are after a disappointing start. From what I gather you guys are having some trouble with line play this year? Either way I think you guys have a pretty good coach in SL. It seems like overall your recruiting is trending up, you have a new stadium, located in a pretty good area (I'd take denton over Ruston/Bowling green/ huntington any day). I'd like to see everyone in our conference play up because none of us are moving to the next level without our conference as a whole showing the best team isn't just the king of the crap hill. I think FAU is on the right track and I'm hoping we can potentially return to the conference championship this year and show some consistency (and better fan support). I would love to have another championship vs yall after how the past 2 seasons went. Having a little cross division rivalry just makes the game more exciting. I think the conference has the potential, we should be outshining the MAC and Sunbelt every year. Here's to hoping both our teams have an exciting fight to the top of the totem poll for consistent conference domination. 🤝

I can get behind this sort of campaign, seriously. The Nebraska mantra. No matter how mediocre we get or downright bad, let's not let it be because of the fans and sell out Apogee for 30 straight years. People would eventually take notice. And it would boost recruiting. But that's not realistic, unfortunately. Too many band and art folk (let's be real, liberal folk) go or went to this school. And for the people that care about football, they put their maroon or orange shirt on long ago.

I hope so. I would like nothing more then to see Coach Littrell take this program to a monstrous level, building the foundation on solid rock so that we are branded forever should he decide to leave.

Just say "no" to the squirrel.

Unfortunately... I think we need to win a few more before we start thinking about tie-breaker scenarios

I believe he’s the only one?

Seriously? I’ll give you a pass on this one.

We had an AD that was very emotional? Did you prefer that? It sure didn't help our results. McCarney could be a charismatic emotional guy. At my business, leadership has to remain calm, cool and collected. I think most great leaders try to stay on even keel and not go up and down with highs and lows. I get some of the criticism of the team's performance, the coaches and but criticizing our coach (and the AD) for not going nuts on the sideline doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Their entire livelihoods depend on the success of the team(s) so I'm pretty sure they're in invested.

What the program needs to move forward is to replace Troy Reffett. That defense sucks. He was fortunate enough last year to have players that covered up for it's flaws. However, since he has been here we have had only one season of a decent defense. He needs to be able to put players in the right positions to fit their talents and abilities not forcing them to play his scheme when they cannot. No matter how good offenses get, defense still wins championships.

i can't disagree with any of those predictions...2 tough road conference games left