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The bad part of that 9-3 prediction is that it has us at 3-3 after six games. The "sky if falling" crowd will be posting in full force if that happens😀 All in all lots of love for the Mean Green in the magazine. Mason was chosen by several writers as the player they'd pick to start a team. Seth got the fewest votes by high school coaches to the question "Which college coach do you trust the least?" We're ranked #3 in the Texas College poll. I'll repeat what others have said often: It's a good time to be a UNT fan.

The way Arkansas got into the SEC wasn’t facilities or a great record in football. It was because they travel ...away games they show up and out. They would have Tyson as a sponsor and all food was free. We knew where the pre-game event was, there was no sign in, and everyone called the hogs. Even if you wore a shirt from another team, they embraced you, the college football fan. I know this because I taught there for over 12.5 years and was involved in athletics and academics. So, you want to join the AAC, it’s all about the money! Travel to as many away games as you can, and we will get an invite. Show up and everything else will take care of itself! GMG

Also forgot to mention. All-Texas College Team Best QB Mason Fine First Team Offense: Mason Fine, Rico Bussey, DeAndre Torrey Second Team: Kelvin Smith, Sosaia Mose, Elex Woodworth Note: Sam Ehlinger UT QB and cover model on Second Team. First Team Defense: Khairi Muhammad Second Team: LaDarius Hamilton

Good post. I think there's a lot of truth to "showing up and out" to make yourself attractive to other conferences. It's all about the $. The other thing to consider is how UNT is perceived as an academic destination. Beating the drum of "Tier 1" is a good step. UNT has to be seen as a value-add for the conference from both an athletics and scholastic standpoint. Filling Apogee and TRAVELING WELL will open eyes. Bowl attendance opens eyes. If UNT fills hotel beds and restaurants at away destinations and is seen as an academically desirable school (which it is), that influences a lot of folks. DFW location is huge as well, despite differing opinions.

Not defending it, trust me... The partially open practice facility is intentional. They’re all (including UNTs) pre-engineered metal building systems. It’s very easy to add the exterior metal all panels, now or later. Look at how fast they’re skinning the outside of UNTs IPF... So these schools, to get the project off the ground, to generate excitement, recruiting, donations, they just frame it open, for now. The walls, insulation and AC can be added easily later.

No, we already named the Fine Arts Center after Mason.

This can’t happen for us to get to 9-3. Rick

We ain't losing to Southern Miss.

I feel like this is more @Harry pulling up pending material to look good towards inquiring external minds at the moment. At the time of this writing, 29 members online, 2 anonymous, and 72 guests. Put up and show out, as is the sentiment in the other AAC threads.

I 100% agree with you. I think people still see SMU with 1982 glasses. They have ZERO leverage today. Think about it. IF we were an option for AAC...and the teams in the AAC supported it...and then what? SMU walks up and says "we don't want UNT here." AAC: "Uh...so what? Who are you?" Why do we think SMU has any clout? What are they going to do? Threaten to leave? They offer nothing to the AAC anyway.

Hey and in the off season the covered area will be a Farmers Market?

Just because I don't think we are going to the AAC means I am debunking our program? And debunking NIU and their closeness to Chicago or MUTS and their proximity to Nashville, which both fit the current AAC footprint perfectly and have made a BCS bowl (NIU) and several NCAA Tournaments (MUTS) just makes you look like a stupid homer--and you aren't a stupid homer. I have ALWAYS said that our path forward in a new conference involves us not being with TCU or SMU, not because they have clout anymore to keep us from being in their conferences, but because TV markets matter to the networks paying for their content. Its why I am fully onboard with going to the MWC if we ever were lucky enough to get asked. It would behoove our program greatly to play nationally ranked and higher regarded programs and it would greatly behoove the MWC to come out here for more eyeballs and recruiting. Its why there are no more markets in the G5 that share teams anymore. Rice and UH will never be in a conference again because of it. FAU and FIU are close, but the Miami DMA is considered different from Palm Beach/Ft. Lauderdale. What changes all of this view? The G5s FINALLY realizing that geographical alignment is the way to go. That would make the MWC stay as it is, the MAC as it is, then completely realigning the AAC, CUSA, and SBC. I'd do backflips to see this conference setup: UNT, SMU, UTEP, NMSU, Tulane, USM, UTSA, Texas State, UH, Rice, ULL, La Tech, Tulsa, and Arkansas State for football. Then be ready when the Big XII blows up by 2025 and you can add in Baylor and TCU, which gets you 16 great teams. Make the football stadiums and basketball arenas more full because the travel is easier and the fans actually know people who went to these regional schools--lower costs for travel, more butts in seats, and less apathy, since UNT fans don't give one rip about ODU or F_U, nor do Temple fans care about SMU or Tulane. The idea of an old SWC would be incredible--but its gonna take these ADs realizing that there is no "P6", that there is more value in regional ties than hoping for supposed TV money that is built on sand for our level of play, and that actual attendance creates better fans that give more money. That's why I'm not holding my breath.

For once, the timing of conference realignment might be perfect for UNT. ....if Fine and Littrell deliver the kind of season we're all hoping for. No pressure, guys! 🙂

We must be taking the same medicine 🙂

Kind of a weird coincidence that the AAC headquarters moved away from Rhode Island and is now going to be in Dallas around the same time. Maybe that might help our case being that our AD can "stop in" just to say hi a few times when/if the time comes to replace a member. Also SMU, might fear that adding us would create more competition in the conference for recruiting in their hotbed. Not trying to crap on CUSA, but SMU is hanging on the fact that UCF and UH have put the conference on the map in recent years. SMU is just riding on that exposure to get recruits who want a better chance at national exposure and going to the NFL.

Love the moron that posted, "it (new team) has to enhance the P6 image." Should he be informed there is no such thing as a P6?

We’re also bricking the outside of ours to match Apogee.

I don’t think you could be more wrong to think CUSA is better MWC...not even close

I agree with you, so don’t take this the wrong way....but people seem to forget Fine didnt play defense that day. We may not should have won the NM Bowl but a “good” team’s defense doesn’t get throttled like that. We must find a defense, a good, solid defense if we’re ever going to win anything in football. Rick

True, but CUSA and AAC are both G-5?

no, id prefer to be in a conference with other texas school.

UTSA’s proposal —

Their new practice facility will surely be the envy of the conference.

My take from reading the comments is that it humors me that they think adding us would over saturate the DFW market. The DFW market doesn't care about smuT. Hell, Highland Park barely cares anymore. We would provide the DFW market that smuT promised years ago. They are a program on life support and are heading the wrong direction.

Having the Athletic Directors Symposium at The Embassy Suites in October.....can only help us in this (conference considerations) as well as scheduling. We get a lot of ADs in town....they see our facilities....it's a good thing. https://www.adsymposium.us/

We just have to get #NorthTexit trending now.

And who ever heard of a baseball stadium with a chimney ?

I really really hope Hambone has a big break out year and becomes draft material. He shows what UNT player development can achieve.

Commits to Arizona. What do we do with Wooten Hall now? Fine Hall?

False. Every reputable voice in college football views the AAC as the superior G5 conference.

Yeah, that's what one poster on their forum mentioned. Funny - for all their disdain for us, there's even more disdain for them on the Houston board. 😄

Nah. Just let them drown in their own delusions.

D line will be better which will make our linebackers better. If this a Champ game at the Ap sign me up! This is our year! GMG

In status, yes, but it terms of revenue generated by the conference, it would be a step up.

I think the department published so they were put out. No information if it means we are closer to announcing a program ect. A potential conference change could push that up the list potentially.

Same question. I looked throughout the entirety of the board and saw nothing about it. Only thing I saw was of the improvement of the walkways going through campus

I definitely want to see more green in opposing stadiums, but let me also point this out. DFW is the fourth largest metro area in the country. There are alumni from every school here. I don't suspect many Mean Green alum live in Hattiesburg, Mississippi or Huntington, West Virginia, etc.

The bottom of the big 12 (KSU, ISU, TECH, Baylor, ) will end up joining the upper of the ACC Houston, Memphis, Cincy,Temple and maybe the Florida Schools. The ACC will be SMU's conf forever as it will for Tulsa and Tulane. It is time for UNT to stop being referred to as potential, we can blow by SMU.

You have to have an invitation to play in any conference. I can't believe there are any at NT or fans that wouldn't want NT in the AAC if the chance happened.

Wow, painting this as a McCasland versus Woolridge conflict. My take, Woolridge wanted a try at the big time which he certainly is going to get. I think McCasland is an excellent bb coach, and as such he never would want to force out his best player.

They build a great fanbase being the only non-Texas member of the SWC for decades. Plus being the only D1 team in the state for most of those year. Add no professional close competition. Advantages that NT is far from having. Basically having the only program in the state pays dividends that are hard to match. Yes, Arkansas build a great tradition; but they didn't exactly start from a lower classification with a mass of sports competition in their state.

3 Dallas area players in the starting lineup. Might become a Zags fan.

Wow. Hope he goes to the final 4.

This is several years old.

I disagree considering the attendance we pulled at the HOD Bowl games. If we only pulled 10% of our alumni base, we would still provide 90% more eyes on the product than smuT. I also have a hard time believing smuT carries that much influence anymore.

There are exactly ZERO conference usa teams that would draw more attention than UCF or Navy. And I’ll take SMU, Houston, Tulane and Tulsa over any of the “local” CUSA teams.

People talk about CUSA and Sun Belt merging to become two more geographically aligned conferences. CUSA and AAC would make a better partnership and give us a new SWC.

First of all, DFW North is growing into its own little Metro. Getting a player that could bring some of Dallas and Northern most Texas is not that crazy to think about. Little Elm, Frisco, Prosper...seem much more aligned in cultures than they do with Dallas proper. Denton's unique identity is being revealed year by year and presents as another culturally cool part of Texas. Second, I am tired of this supposed power SMU has over us. They don't own us and I don't think of them as over us at all any more. They can look down us from their imagination. I personally feel we have tremendous upside and are viewed as a program of the future. They seem like a program of the past to me. The AAC programs don't excite me that much either but they are perceived as a step up in conference. They fit our desired footprint, even though I wish Smastrek would convince others to head west to the MWC. You have Boise over there and UCF over there. I think Boise stirs more interest than UCF but we need an invite first. With this type of SMU respect we don't even deserve to share the same air with them. Times change, programs evolve and I refuse to see us as "behind" SMU the rest of my days. Show up with confidence and crush the presentation. Go Wren! GMG

ALSO, The Big East without UCONN always seemed weird to me. I think this is good for my sports world.