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After gathering some info and taking it all in. This is what i predict will go down. 1. Seth new super agent has used the Kansas State job to get Seth a pay raise. I think Sexton camp was the one that put Seth's name out as a top candidate. Even thought I think he was 3 or 4 on the list. I think Seth will interview just for the experience. But before the bowl game Wren baker will announce a contract extension for Seth making him the highest coach in CUSA and top 5 in G5 (will also have a nice buyout). Kansas State will sign one of Jim Levitt or Chris Klieman. 2. North Texas will win the bowl game against a #23 ranked Utah State. 3. North Texas will sign a large portion of F19HTCLUB 5 days later 4. I believe there will be some changes to the coaching staff. I will leave that at that. 5. IPF will be complete 6. North Texas led by Seth Littrell and Mason Fine will win 10 games next season, along with winning the CUSA championship and goign to their 4th straight bowl game. 7. Incarnate Word led my Eric Morris wins back to back Southland titles while leading the top 10 ranked team on a nice playoff run 8. Seth will move on to greener pastures. UNT will cash the nice buyout. UTSA will part ways with Frank Wilson after another sub 500. year 9. UTSA will try to poach the coach from across town. UNT will sweep in and Get Coach Morris right out from in under them. #GMG #InWrenWeTrust Disclaimer: Step back from the ledge Mean Green Family. Its all going to work out. This is just the beginning not the end. Enjoy the ride

Ok we can all calm down....our coach just got back to his computer...

C-USA BOWL 2018 SYNOPSISConference USA secured guaranteed commitments for six bowl spots for the 2018 season, as well as maintaining two secondary agreements. The Bahamas, Cheribundi Tart Cherry Boca Raton, Hawai’i, New Mexico, and R+L Carriers New Orleans bowls are joined by a spot in either the Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla (Tampa Bay) or Zaxby’s Heart of Dallas Bowls as the primary agreements. The Frisco Bowl and the Walk-On’s Independence Bowl (should the ACC or SEC not be able to provide a bowl-eligible team) serve as secondary bowls. There is no set selection order among C-USA’s bowl partners. C-USA was given the Gasparilla Bowl and not the HOD by ESPN (assumption). With a game in Dallas off the table and with the Independence Bowl selecting and AAC team (Duke) our options became very slim without some trading. The first rule of trading is you have to have something to trade. What could C-USA offer? Boca Raton - UAB chose this bowl per conference rules. Bahamas - FIU already filled C-USA spot Hawaii - LaTech already filled C-USA spot Open Options Gasparilla - 1,162 miles from Denton - Thursday Game New Mexico - 609 miles from Denton - Saturday game to kick off the Bowl Season v. MWC New Orleans - 542 miles from Denton- Same Saturday as NM v. SBC and we were there last year. If I am any other conference commissioner other than the belt I do not think I would trade. So UNT is left with the three options above. Which would you chose? A game we have not been to vs a Coaches Poll top 25 team? A game vs the best team in the belt (who is supposed to be a worse conference than the C-USA) (did not have good results last year in this scenario)? A game vs the 4th place team in the AAC on a Thursday night 1,200 miles away from campus? Given the above options (that only take into account the C-USA tie-in's and the lack of a tradable commodity), I think we did the best out of all of the other C-USA teams. It is a low pressure game as we will be underdogs and few if any will pick us to win but it will be reported as UNT v #23 Utah State. If we win huge upside and we upset a top 25 team (would be the top story of any bowl games played on Saturday) (heck the Dallas Morning news might even give credit to Mac for a great win) if we lose, we were beat by a ranked opponent. When you are dealt a hand you play that hand to win. I feel that the C-USA was dealt a blah hand by ESPN and Wren played that blah hand to be a winner with limited options. Would I have prefered HOD for my convenience? YES, but if it was not offered to C-USA we came out smelling like roses compared to the rest of the C-USA. We have a new to us bowl with a possibility to reach 10 wins against a top 25 team. Let that sink in. I for one would have signed up for that option before the season started. This is a great bowl for the Mean Green!

because it's a ranking system for (mostly) non-partisan fans that are looking for good matchups in the bowl season... This game features two high ranking offenses with a combined win total of 19 games, and there are only 5 other matchups that have more than that. For all the whining on this board, this is a really great matchup for UNT. If you wanted to play a P5 school in a bowl game, that is almost out of our hands entirely only a few schools (Fresno St., Boise St. Memphis, UCF, Temple, Cincinnati.. zero CUSA, Sun-Belt or MAC schools) were able to secure a matchup against a P5. This should be viewed by all, INCLUDING us, as a great matchup, and a chance to continue climbing the college football ladder.

CUSA has a bowl tie in with the First Responders Bowl CUSA has a 9 win team 40 miles from where the First Responders Bowl is played...and that team will bring 20k+ at a minimum to this game So the First Responders Bowl ends up being played between Boston College (ACC) and Boise State (Mountain West)...neither of which is anywhere close to the bowl site Makes perfect sense

Feel free to watch Tulane VS ULL instead.

Best case = Alabama has an off-year, only winning 8 games, and Saban is fired. NT lures him to Denton because he always wanted to grow a hipster beard.

Funny....(but not)

Don’t you remember the Dallas Convention and Visitors Bureau and the city turned down the big money request from ESPN because the game doesn’t fill hotel rooms. They don’t CARE about the ticket sales, they want hotel rooms to get city money.

SL quote: " We are excited to be playing in the New Mexico Bowl against a very good opponent in Utah State," Littrell said. "Albuquerque is an easy travel destination for our fans and alumni and I know this team is excited to play in front of a national audience on ESPN in the very first bowl game of the season. It will be a tremendous challenge but we are excited to get to work."

Ok, Littrell is gone why would he skip the bowl game and go to the Netherlands Flim Festival (NFF).

Yahoo bowl rankings named this the 12th best bowl out of the 39 bowls!

I would say both. Happy by the fact that we are in the best possible situation for a 2018 C-USA bowl Depressed by the fact that we are in the best possible situation for a 2018 C-USA bowl

From 2004 when both teams were still in the Sun Belt: Apologies for the poor video quality.

Maybe the craziest (and best?) football game I've ever seen in person. It was the last game of the regular season. After beating Texas Tech and playing with A&M for three quarters we limped in with a 3-7 record. Utah State had already clinched the Big West title. There were like....2K fans at Fouts that day. Utah State had a pretty decent lead going into the 4th quarter and the few fans there started to leave. However, we made a big comeback. Then the two teams traded the lead like six times in the last five minutes of the game. I think twice in the last 50 seconds. We scored on a game-winning TD pass as time expired. The game had no ramifications as far as titles or what not and we ended the year at 4-7. Still....perhaps the best game ever played in Fouts.

My super fancy La Quinta is booked. Don't judge me, I already threw up in my mouth knowing I'm paying $420 to fly to Albu-f'ing-querque New Mexico because our conference is inept. I couldn't bear to pay much more. And it's a 25 minute walk from the stadium, so hopefully I can stumble back after I drink a lot during the game.

This conference sucks so bad. And there’s nothing we can do about it—none of us.

Not sure if it’s been mentioned but Mainord and Neal Brown both coached together at Kentucky before Brown went to Troy. So if SL left and we got Brown maybe we’d be able to keep Mainord which would be big for recruiting.

The NM Bowl provides one of the best matchup opportunities for CUSA during bowl season. This shouldn't surprise any of us. I won't make the game. Can't due to budget, having a family of 5 kids including a 2 month old, and time frame. For those who can make it, please do. If you can make it, don't talk down to those who can't (not that I've seen this). We have had discussions of joining the Mountain West Conference conference to hopefully follow TCU's path. Now that we have a bowl game against the Mountain West at a relatively close destination (New Mexico), we as a fan base are complaining. This is a good opportunity. I just don't understand why we've had discussions hoping to join the MW conference and are now complaining about playing against this conference. Somebody please help with that? If it's just the financial aspect on such a short turnaround then I understand.

North Texas did a huge favor for USU when we led the way to sponsor them for SBC membership. They were most appreciative of our school for helping them, too. The Aggies will be the first ranked team (#25) for our favorite school to play in a bowl game. That makes this a very special opportunity for the Mean Green.

Littrell could leave, but I do not think he will. He came to North Texas and said his mission was to "win championships and win bowl games". We have not done either yet. If he were to take the K-State job or another P5 offer, he would leave UNT without achieving what he set out to do. I don't believe the man could stomach that. I'm sure our fan base irritates him from time to time, but he can't deny that there is a core of fans that really care about this program, and he will probably never have another opportunity to build something from scratch again. Few coaches get to make a mark on a program like Patterson has at TCU. Littrell could do the same here at UNT, and he knows it. How much does Littrell like or hopefully love North Texas? We will find out soon.

12/9 Wanted to get this going before I went to bed for you early risers out there. With Breida out, Jeff is STARTING for the 49ers tomorrow against the Bronocs (and Courtland Sutton). Alfred Morris and Matt Dayes are backing him up. Game is on CBS tomorrow at 3:05. Just checked my CBS and it looks like the game won't be aired on mine in DFW, which sucks (I despise how the NFL broadcasts their games), so if you want to watch it, find a buddy with that NFL ticket thing or someone that gets the game or a bar. There are some concerns I do have. Just before the half last week, Jeff hurt his foot. Being a starting back in the NFL is physically tough, especially the way he runs. Just keep his health in your thoughts/prayers/etc tomorrow (and for the rest of the regular season it looks like). He literally pushed around a REALLY tough Seattle defense last weekend. The Broncos defense with Von Miller is no joke. I can't wait to see Jeff in action. Whatever happens, I hope he knows how proud we are of him and how well he has represented the University of North Texas, and I hope he gets to continue living the dream. --------------------- 12/2 Matt Brieda aggrivated his ankle injury and was limited in practice all week and during the game. Jeff's stats are pictured below. He went out just before the half with a leg injury but he must've come back after. I couldn't watch the second half. His stats are below. He had one fumble.

I tip my hat to TheWren. His reaction to the question about Steve Pettit just confirms to me what kind of man I thought he was.

I can't think of a time you gave a shit about what you should do. You seem more like a I'm-gonna-be-angry-no-matter-what type.

It all starts at the top. Wren (especially) and our Pres set the tone for UNT athletics. Wren is the man and he is the guy we really could not afford to lose IMO.

Ok, here's a question. Does Texas' no state income tax figure into the discussion between UNT and SL? I'm very bad at accounting, but I looked it up and Kansas has a state rate of 5.7% for incomes over 30k.

This game is less than a week before early signing day. we can’t control Seth’s decision, but I hope our players see this as an opportunity to impress the 2019 recruits.

I'm sorry. I guess I have a completely different perspective on this. If K-State offers him $3 million/year, good on him for taking it. Just proves that North Texas has come a long way. If we have confidence in this administration, which I think we all do, then we should be comfortable with their ability to continue to find coaching talent. Let's not act like SL is going to turn down a 2x pay raise and a chance to coach in the Big 12 all in the name of not upsetting fans with what he promised from a press conference.

Oh and go to Mary and Tito’s. It’s a James Beard award winning restaurant that is really cheap

There you go. I think the NM Bowl will be a barn-burner & if we beat the Top 25 USU Aggies maybe that translates to pre-2019 Top 25 votes leading up to the UHouston game at Apogee & then the PAC12 Cal Bears also in Apogee. There is a path for Top 25 rankings in Denton—both OldDenton & NewDenton!

A lot of wives, I see. You might enjoy this Utah game after all.

Gas is 2.00 a gallon.... drive. Ill give you round trip plus 250 miles to drive all around Albuquerque. That’s 1,484 miles from Denton and back with some wiggle room. My car can get 500 miles to a tank on hwy let’s say 400 for giggles. That’s 3.71 tanks of gas I’ll need to get there. My tank holds 18 gallons, at $2.20 a gallon which is currently $ .40 above what it is all over DFW is $39.60 a tank. Call it an even 4 tanks, you’ll need $158.40 in gas. Pack a case of water, some Red Bull, and snacks. We will call it 60 bucks. Hotel room, big $$. Found a Sheraton for 120 a night after taxes. Take a friend that’s 60 a piece per night. Now you’re sitting at 338.40. Food? Drinks? Ticket. That’s all ya got left. Point being. If anyone wants to make this work, it’s possible. May not get to be the lavish NO trip I get it, but if one wants to go, you can definitely make it happen. I will be there.

I’m into New Mexico Bowl. Don’t be crybabies. This is the reality of the bowl environment. Go out there and celebrate these boys for a great season. Life is hard especially at our rung on the CFB totem pole, but don’t miss out the opportunity to thank these kids for a hell of a year.

And Seth Littrell is on the AFCA Board of Trustees. He's a big deal in the coaching world.

I agree Harry you make a great point.

Hopefully they make their choice in the next day or two. I have to believe that Wren is already being proactive, just in case. I just hate the P5 and their egos 😒

And you have a bowl eligible team that travels left out while the conferences bowls get filled with other teams...I have to think SoMiss's leadership is beside themselves....

Also. Drive the old Route 66 from Sandia Mountain to downtown at night. Lot of the old neon signs still in service

Stay in ABQ. You can get decent prices at HI Express and such. I stayed a week in the one out by the Indian museum. Not a terrible drive from the stadium but not close at all

Thank you for this. Spot on. I woulda given you a like but maxed out my emojis for today. And I would add Utah State has a much better record than Colorado State did last year.

For the 2nd year in a row, UNT is given the prime opponent (top 25 this year). Time to win.

Frisco vs Ohio isn't better. Who wants to play in a soccer stadium anyway? I would rather travel to New Mexico. And, who wouldn't want to drive through beautiful Childress, Texas on the way???? or Quanah? Or Chilocothe?

We will be up on them by 2-3 possessions halfway through the 2Q. Should make for an entertaining game that will get settled in OT

I am just happy we got a bowl invitation! Take the bowls when you can get them, regardless of who the opponent will be. We did not win our west division. We did not win our conference. Not ranked. And - possibly we may be losing our coach. And - possibly lose our record setting QB

Best opponent UNT has faced in a bowl that I can ever remember.

The only thing I am disappointed in is our fans. Man we are poised to be going places we haven’t been in a long time over the next 10 years. One guy isn’t responsible for that. Do we want a long term successful program or do we want to keep SL. I am for the former, I hope he stays for some continuity. but if SL leaves, see ya, we rebound with a better coach and continue the climb. .