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  1. I think the more important question is who will be the next head coach after the next one? Thoughts?
    4 points
  2. Tune: Got drilled by the defender. Not sure where Char screwed up on that one. Ford: Broken leg. Not sure you can condition a bone not to snap when the right amount of force is applied but I am not a doctor. Jones: Had his leg landed on by a Clemson defender and it bent all kinds of wrong. Pretty sure it wasn't Char but maybe he still has eligibility left. JJ Johnson: Got his foot stepped on by another player. Char should have seen that one coming. Neal: Out for year Cook: Out for year Carey: Hand injury that is affecting his play: Char told him to lift the furniture with his legs.
    3 points
  3. Praise the Lord!! It wasn't me! YES!!
    3 points
  4. Looks like GMG has a lot of players to salute on the main page of the board. Do they have any missing pets as well?
    2 points
  5. I don't care if Dodge is fired or not. I was 100% for his hiring. Yes, I did question why he was retained for another year but said I would honor RV's decision. Still do. I would love nothing more than to see him succeed here at UNT. Last Saurday night we had a bad game. We made too many mistakes but so did Rice.I knew this would be a very tough, physical game and unkike others did not see this as cake walk. But the bottom line is, we were winning this game dispite the mistakes and poor play. We weren't being blown out. When our offense took the field, the ball on our on two yard line, 98 yards of open green, nursing a small lead with time running out our kids where totally unprepared for that scenario. They and the coaching staff were completely and totally lost. We should have practiced that same scenario at least 50 times in Spring and Fall ball against our defense and any formation they could have thrown at us. Thats called coaching Yes, I understand the fear of being called for holding in the endzone on a pass play, but the coaches should have drilled all players to the point that they knew and understood the consequences. When our offense ran onto the field they were already defeated. The coaching staff lacked the confidence in our players, the players lacked the confidence in themselves and all because the the coaches had failed to prepare them for just this exact possiblity. Thats when and how we lost the game. Is that Dodge's fault? The offensive coordinator's fault? The kids fault?
    2 points
  6. Again, we have no present opening for a HFC at North Texas and I know you are speculating but... ...if you're talking about Mike Leach, last I heard he still has a lawsuit pending toward the state of Texas (and I stand to be corrected on that) but IMO no Texas university with any degree of intellect would touch that situation the way it stands now, especially a public university in the Lone Star State. A school like UNT doesn't need to get on the wrong side of the Texas political scene, especially since we are trying for Tier 1 status? Coach Leach was said to be unhappy in Lubbock and was trying to get out of RedRaiderLand right before his teams had their sudden national (Top 10) success, then he gets into a bru-haha with his Tech Prez' and Board of Regents who had instructed him to follow certain procedure on the big mess he created with Craig James' (of Celina) son and Coach Leach refused to follow what his bosses did not ask him to do but told him to do, yada, yada, yada........... ......Leach's talent as an X's & O's coach are unquestioned, but his ability to obey the people who hired him is public knowledge so the question remains......does UNT take a huge gamble with that kind of hire? Maybe so--maybe not but I am almost certain that our *Holy Tribunal (which I fondly call our Prez, AD and Hired Gun Consultant, ie, Chuck Neinas with high regard and "no" sarcasm mean't at all); yet, I don't think they will be consulting with any of us for our opinions on Mike Leach or anyone if the time comes for us to hire another coach. I personally don't think they would touch Coach Mike with a 10 foot poll since their own judgement could eventually be questioned in hiring such a known maverick. * Actually, I will add that North Texas AD Rick Villarreal would be the main cog in the wheel of the tribunal in hiring a new coach, but I'm sure he would be asking the other 2 of their opinions on the matter as well. Rick V has some pretty good coaching contacts in the NCAA and his coupled with Consultant Chuck Neinas would probably come up with a pretty fair candidate but... ...if Todd Dodge and his team emulate our 2001 team and march thru the SBC and then a bowl invite to the Big Easy, all of this discussion become a rather moot point. That is why these "change the coach" kind of threads may want to be delayed until the SBC conference season is at least half over before. Many of us are still pulling for TDodge and his Mean Green football team to repeat the history of our 2001 season when there was a pretty, cool 12'th hour come-back. BEAT ARMY!
    2 points
  7. How did you have such a good time knowing that we might have turbines at the new stadium?
    2 points
  8. 2 points
  9. I understand that you aren't happy with where the program is, none of us are either...seriously, I do not like where we are one bit. That does not mean though, that every last shred of optimism needs to be battered down into the ground like a whack-a-mole machine. That kind of takes all the fun out of it, dude. Yeah, we lost, but I had a hell of a time hanging out with my friends cheering on my school. I think MckinneyMiner said it best in his "Perspective from a New Season Ticket Holder" thread. There is a lot more to all this than just the football game.
    2 points
  10. Well, to be fair, was the board really ready for such a ground-breaking thread? A lot of folks are just now taking this question on for the first time.
    2 points
  11. If North Texas hires a new coach, I'd like to see us hire a coach with significant FBS experience who would have instant media credibility by virtue of his past jobs. If UTSA could get Larry Coker, SMU June Jones, UCF George O'Leary and Ohio Frank Solich, perhaps UNT could get a Bill Callahan, Tommy Bowden or Phillip Fulmer. That new stadium and the Dallas media market are nice carrots.
    2 points
  12. I have to agree with KRAM on this. Last week everyone was giddy and emmitt01 was predicting 8 wins out of this team after our game against Clemson. Rice rolls to town, we start off horribly, kicking game is killing us, without our starting center, a starting DB, essentially our 5th DB and key WR that are all lost for the season, and lost by 1 to a team that hammered us by 50+ a couple of years ago. Yes, we gave this game away and I'm as frustrated as the next fan, but my goodness, we are only two games into a 12 game season and everyone has given up on this team. Pretty ridiculous at this point, IMHO.
    2 points
  13. And with no track separating the playing surface from the stands, mgbob is going to have to speak quickly because RV will have easy access to him in the Pit.
    2 points
  14. He means the start of basketball season. 57 days, people! 8 weeks and a day, to be precise, until early signing period opens and basketball season begins!
    2 points
  15. It was the first game I have been able to come back to in years, and I have to say that I was VERY impressed with the band. From the size of it to the quality of the sound it was great. The thing that most impressed me was their spirit. When I was a student (I was not in the band), they seemed to be more in it for themselves. School spirit was almost something they consciously avoided. That wasn't what I saw Saturday night. They were awesome in every sense of the word. I can say that for the whole student body. School spirit has found itself at UNT, and I am so proud of that.
    1 point
  16. not sure I are gagree......in fact I think I are disgagreeing
    1 point
  17. What facts are I ignoring. RV should have had a list of coaching candidates last year and should be keeping it updated, but that has nothing to do with calling for a firing during the first third of the season. Geez, even the most naive of football fans knew that Dodge was going to have a very difficult time retaining his job, the first three years kind of gave you a hint. Having say that, he has lost two games this year in which the team has given great effort and has ten to go. Odds are again, NT can not turn it around with the outlandish array of injuries, but there are going to be a lot of foolish looking fans if the team does start winning. Even with the injuries this is the most experienced and talented team that NT has had since its last championship. If they don't give up like many of their fans, I think they will do well in the Belt. This team could be a very good defensive team and if Thompson can stay healthy; the offense should be fine. The special teams are a disaster so improvement to mediocracy would a substantial boost.
    1 point
  18. Updated List: Unrealistic: Steve Kragthorpe - Former Louisville & Tulsa HC Tommy Bowden - Former Clemson HC Phillip Fulmer - Former Tennessee HC Mike Leach - Former Texas Tech. HC Mel Tjeerdsma - Northwest Missouri St. HC Mickey Matthews - James Madison HC Jeff Bower - Former S.Mississippi HC Iffy: Major Applewhite - Texas Asst. Bill Callahan - Former Nebrask HC Bryan Harsin - Boise St. Asst. Dennis Franchione - Former New Mexico, TCU, Alabama, Texas A&M HC Realistic: Trooper Taylor - Auburn Asst. Chris Thomsen - Abilene Christian HC Lance Thompson - Tennessee Asst. Lincoln Riley - ECU Asst.
    1 point
  19. If I am not mistaken, our luck changed the day we removed the script North Texas from the helmets and replaced it with the current North Texas font. To change our luck again, we must change the helmet logo to the SOW. It's the only way to solve these prolems. The football gods have spoken.
    1 point
  20. I wouldn't say NO experience; he has spent the last 10 years at Texas, Alabama, Syracuse, and Rice. That's for the most part big time college football. And he can recruit in Texas. And since we are all turning into RV's personal accountants, he is making $250,000 a year right now at Texas which I think we can compete with.
    1 point
  21. How many good head coach candidates are there that you believe could make an impact here? We've yet to come up with a list of more coaches than there will be openings at the end of the year. Heck, last time a name bandied about was Jerry Glanville, but I don't see too many clamoring for him after his terrible stint with Portland State. Fact of the matter is, if they're good, AND you know who they are, so does every other one of those 120 schools, and a good number of those can and will pay $1million plus, and there will be plenty of good openings at the end of the year. Money might not be the #1 factor, but the others that come into play - Conference, Facilities, History, Fan Base - still favor a great number of schools over NT. That's just reality. I'm not saying to forget Mike Leach talk. I'm just saying you need to have a plan B-Q, because odds are not in your favor for getting a "name" coach.
    1 point
  22. 4 ACL tears by the end of the second week of the season? Some blame may have to lay with the conditioning program...we all (myself included) were excited by the added weight some of these players put on in the off-season, but these are the kind of injuries that occur when it isn't added well. I don't like baseless speculation...and I'm not saying...I'm just saying.
    1 point
  23. We might need Scrappy '03's little brother before our next home game if this injury bug keeps biting us much longer.
    1 point
  24. 1 point
  25. I don't think the Texas Longhorns would say that the Rice Owls were so terrible. Dodge probably has to win the SBC to keep his job--the same scenario for DD in 2001. Lets just all be patient and see what happens. What the hell else do we have to do anyway? GMG!
    1 point
  26. Of course not. Why would everyone have to play by the same rules? You could say the same thing about the Belt though...when are we playing WKU at the Pit again?
    1 point
  27. NO, you don't fire Coach Dodge if we lose to Army. The mandate from RV was to win seven, or so everyone on the board seems to think. So, the idea that you even consider firing your head coach with the possibility of seven wins remaining and before you even get into conference play is pretty lame. I understand the frustration after the last few losing seasons and some blowout losses. It gets old and gets tough to hang in with the program. I get that, but I also believe in honoring contracts and agreements. Yes, even in college athletics and even if only one side seems to think contracts and agreements are meant to be honored. This isn't some video game or TV drama where everyone walks away happy and all the "good guys" aren't really hurt, this is the real deal. In the "real deal" one honors their word...well, the ones with character and dignity do at least. GOOD LUCK COACH DODGE and Co. BEAT ARMY!!!!!
    1 point
  28. At my age (near 60) one begins to sound like a broken, uh, CD? I still defer to the SBC "2'nd season" which saved another UNT coach's job when he won that league's 1'st conference championship (with even 1 SBC loss vs. ULM) and the Mean Green then went to the Big Easy with a 5 & 6 season. You do not fire a coach who has taken his team to a bowl game--even in his 4'th year at 5 & 6 and FWIW...DD did not have his 1'st above .500 year until his 5'th year at UNT then his next 2 were over .500 with his last 2 well under .500. IMO, Coach Dodge (or any coach for that matter) deserves no less treatment if he pulls this thing off a la a similar scenario to our 2001 season. NOTE: Even if we lost at FAU, it is still mathmatically possible for UNT to win the SBC if other contenders are beating up on each other. Thats what sorta' happened in 2001. Come on, folks, give it a break until at least half way thru the SBC season and then if the situation is dire with Dodge's wins and losses, eat your heart out and go for it with these threads non-stop! GMG!
    1 point
  29. I don't even see the UNT plate on there.. Maybe they think the SLC plates can double for North Texas..
    1 point
  30. 1 point
  31. Updated List: Unrealistic: Steve Kragthorpe - Former Louisville & Tulsa HC Tommy Bowden - Former Clemson HC Phillip Fulmer - Former Tennessee HC Mike Leach - Former Texas Tech. HC Iffy: Jeff Bower - Former S.Mississippi HC Major Applewhite - Texas Asst. Bill Callahan - Former Nebrask HC Realistic: Trooper Taylor - Auburn Asst. Chris Thomsen - Abilene Christian HC
    1 point
  32. So far we have: Trooper Taylor - Auburn Asst. Chris Thomsen - Abilene Christian HC Steve Kragthorpe - Former Louisville & Tulsa HC Jeff Bower - Former S.Mississippi HC Major Applewhite - Texas Asst. Bill Callahan - Former Nebrask HC Tommy Bowden - Former Clemson HC Phillip Fulmer - Former Tennessee HC
    1 point
  33. Cool, let us (me) know if you (as a non-season or mini-plan ticketholder) get one, so that I can pass the word to future questioners.
    1 point
  34. Lesson #1 O Ye On Your 2'nd or 3'rd Post on GMG.com (and welcome BTW): Don't fire anyone until they're fire-able. Dickey made one of the greatest coaches come-backs in NCAA history when in his own 4'th year (which was under .500) he delayed his own Waterloo. Now many of us on this board have different interrpretations of his 9 year stay at UNT and I will leave it at that but the lesson learned is at UNT one probably has to wait till the SBC conference season is complete and even going to a bowl game with an under .500 W/L sealed the contract extension deal with Coach Dickey in 2001 and (in fact) gave him what would be an additional 8 years in Denton. If a similar scenario happened with TDodge this Fall & he didn't get an extension that would create a very interesting quandary for our UNT powers that be. Back To Dickey: Yet word was among fellow Nestors at that time (pre-MUTS game) was that AD Rick V was ready to pull the trigger after that game had we lost. That game was the 6'th game in 2001 and after that win we were 1 & 5......the rest is history. FACT IS: If we have not lost too many starters the rest of the season........."IF" UNT plays offense of the quality they did at Clemson and our Mean Green defense continues to improve post-Rice game, they can win the Sun Belt Conference because (let's face some more facts here): The SBC hardly has anything close to a BCS Bowl-Buster type of a program at this juncture of our 10 year history. If we're still part of the SBC on its 20'th Anniversary I hope we don't have to say the same thing. Whichever UNT HFC we have 5 years from today I hope gets us out of this Bottom 25 quagmire we've been mostly a part of since we regained NCAA D1 criteria in 1994. Some of us still sorta' like former conference-mate Boise State to be our model in Denton. Why not after what we all saw last Monday night with the Broncos? GMG!
    1 point
  35. 1 point
  36. I understand some of you are trying to be funny, but please give me some serious answers. I would like to know what some of you think.
    1 point
  37. I would have signed that one too!
    1 point
  38. and in response...there should have been one.
    1 point
  39. Wonder if Tobe would have liked a banner last year?
    1 point
  40. KRAM would see that as a diamond necklace...It would just take a few million years to develope.
    1 point
  41. Speak for yourself. If RV can't handle a fan's opinion of the sorry-ass product he's put on display at Fouts, he should find another line of work. Bob didn't embarrass me by yelling about poor coaching to the person who thought we needed another high school coach to run a college program. He was telling the truth. Fun fact: Since 1980, only three high school coaches have been hired to run Division I-A (now FBS) schools. Two of them were at North Texas -- Dennis Parker and Dodge. RV bet the bank on a non-traditional hire and he busted.
    1 point
  42. It's pretty safe to assume that as long as TD is the head coach, special teams will be a disaster.
    1 point
  43. Sure, just for you. LOL
    1 point
  44. Please understand that I am not anti-Dodge. I would love nothing more than to witness Coach Dodge become our Joe Paterno. I want him to succeed at UNT! My complaint wasn't against Coach Dodge last Saturday night. It was meant to be directed towards the offensive coordinator. Our guys should have been so well rehersed when they ran onto the field facing 1st and 10 from their own 2 yard line, late in the game and nursing a lead, albeit small, that they should have had a grin on their faces. We had 98 yards of open green and choose to run the ball, what 3 times. We didn't try to win. We tried not to lose and we lost! We were not well coached in situational probabilities. Bad coaching from Mr.C. He failed to prepare our kids for this scenario. This is when the game was lost. It wasn't Coach Dodge's fault.
    1 point
  45. Not what I intended at all...I just see Nathan (as others have stated on this thread) as a standout in the amount of sacrifice he has given to the team vs. what he is getting out of the entire situation. My sympathies go out to every injured player that we have...and in no way am I frustrated by the misconception that I care more than others on here. What does frustrate me is the jokes..the thumbs down and the downright negative feedback that some have posted on here. Your comment above was all that needed to be said to say your peace. When I am approaching retirement age (like some on this board) I will have hopefully given back to my school an amount of money, time and energy that is worthy of being associated with a Mean Green Fan...until then my recent graduation post college budget allows me to give $500 annually to the school for various causes. It is not a holier than thou sentiment I carry..but more of a failure to grasp some of the feedback (or at least how it is presented) on this thread that is bothersome to me.
    1 point
  46. The Daily and the radio station working together would violate the NT standard operating procedure of never cooperating with any other entity of the university if at all possible.
    1 point
  47. You don't know embarrassment, EagleGreen, you shoulda' been around here in 1981 with a 1 year coach who had 1 win and almost got us on NCAA probation to boot! That was (as Popeye would say) "embarraskin." Prediction: Rick V will not fire Todd Dodge on Monday or the next Monday or the next. If Todd Dodge goes 0 & 5, Rick V will probably still not fire him but rather (silently) start his private search for Coach Dodge's successor knowing how important that hire would be as we are on the eve of having a grand opening for a new football palace being built by the same people who built the Dallas Cowboy's jewel over in Arlington. Rick V has taken the worst AD job in NCAA D1 and made it a good job. He will probably move on to a more high profile job one day in the future. Yet.......for UNT to be building a new stadium during this national economy (near depression) is short of a miracle. I look for Rick V & Company to find a corporate sponsor in due time that will divvy up UNT's $30 million minimum amount requirement (which is what I saw as the minimum amount in some UNT publication). IMO, our stadium location makes that amount do-able. Someone already posted it but UNT has been a coaches graveyard except for Fry and Moore (who was only here 2 years). So, if Dodge is terminated, we really need to do the most extensive search for a HFC in our history so we have someone who somebody else wants to hire and FWIW..........that's when you know you've got something. NOTE: Boise State had 5 HFC's in the space of 10 years and did not miss a lick with their football success--that alone is one of the great success stories in NCAA history. Let Rick V do his thing...he's shown that he can. GMG!
    1 point


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