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That's right they'll shuffle them "DOWN" In this new world, who is SMU more aligned with? Rutgers, Vandy, NW and a few others? or Ohio St, Bama, Texas, USC (I didn't want to turn this into an SMU topic but you just can't seem to accept reality...)

Yes, I am aware of all that, and remember when they were very good back in the 80's or so. But, as you said, they haven't been very great lately, and had pretty much fallen off the radar until a long-past-his-prime Pitino went there.

The Boston College/SMU's of the world will still be in the mix through access to the playoff. Obviously, there is going to be a Power 2 but what's going to eventually happen is the Big 10 and SEC will shuffle off some of their lesser performing "assets" down to the ACC and Big 12 while FSU, Clemson, Kansas, and potentially UNC move up. Rutgers, Vandy, NW, and a few others will head down. The G5 will have their own division and won't be given access to the playoff, therefore necessitating they create their own.

But I don't see this a move down....more of a "not moving up" For this to take shape, you have to assume that the "highest official classification" is going to change. It's gonna be 30-40 teams. This isn't like going FCS in the '80s. It's not even close....the entire landscape has changed. NIL, transfer portal, ESPN, media.....nothing today resembles 1988. The "highest official classification" is just a label. It's unofficially the SEC/Big 10 now...even the Big 12 is not stable...P5 is going to P2. We have to stop thinking that because an Oregon State has "always been a Power conference school" that they will continue to be one. Boston College? SMU? LOL. The math has changed. Alabama, Ohio State and Texas are so far removed from the lower P5s and G5s that snow ball is moving at warp speed down the mountain. Them along with ESPN run college football now and what they want, they will get. I don't think Ohio State really cares about Washington St.... We (current G5 plus the P5 "hanger ons") aren't going to be able to keep up with this new world... I think this proposal is a new classification...not moving down to an existing one. Just my humble opinion....

Sigh. I don't want you to take this the wrong way but this might be most ill-informed and ignorant take on the current ACC situation I've seen yet. And that's saying something. FACTS: You need a majority of schools to vote to dissolve the conference. Well, you just added three sure-fire "NO" votes in CAL, SMU, and Stanford. Now tell me. Where are you going to find the other votes needed to dissolve the conference? Duke? Nope. WF? Nope. Miami? Nope. PITT? Nope. Louisville? Nope. Georgia Tech? Nope. Syracuse? Nope. Boston College? Nope. Notre Dame? Nope. Virginia Tech? Nope. I realize you hate SMU and that the G5 split that's coming sucks but c'mon man.

If a face could launch a thousand ships...

play in MSG v. Villanova or a 1/3rd full Super Pit v. Tulsa. tough call.

Adam McCoy

If a picture paints a thousand words…

Javion was my pick as well followed closely by Mitchel, just to see what he could accomplish under a good coach.

St. Johns is one of the great sleeping giant jobs in the nation. They have a fantastic basketball history (they haven't been that great for the last generation or so, but the Johnies do have a helluva tradition) going back about 80 years and they play in NYC at MSG.

Recent Past With all the excitement over Tylor Perry we quickly forgot about the best player from our recent past. The stats and awards bear it out. In my mind the answer is Javion Hamlet. No other player has accomplished what he has. https://meangreensports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/javion-hamlet/4731 Imagine what he would have accomplished if the 2020 NCAA Tournament had not been cancelled. We won the Conference in 2020 and arguably that was the best team we have ever had.

A majority of schools could just vote to dissolve the ACC. There would be a court fight, but eventually schools that want out will be released with some greatly reduced financial penalty. It's like a divorce, you can't keep someone in an unhappy relationship, even with a contract. It will happen probably before the end of next year at the pace things are moving.

The ACC has a media rights deal that runs through 2036 with massive financial penalties to leave. ACC schools make more money per school than the Big 12. The PAC had no media deal and zero financial penalty to leave the conference. The two situations couldn't be more different. ACC schools do not want to associate themselves with the likes of WVU, Cincy, UCF, Texas Tech, OK State and the other Truck Stoppers.

The ACC will be picked apart just like the PAC was. Big12 will help in the raiding, just as they did with the PAC.

Odufuwho?…. Odufuwa!

Tony Mitchell under an inspiring coach and quality nucleus.

Saw that we also offered a DE from Montana. Can’t find the tweet now.

Memphis academics will keep them out of any realistic ACC expansion chances. Also, UNC isn't going anywhere. NC politics gives authority to the North Carolina board of governors who are currently enacting legislation that would essentially bar any institutions from leaving the ACC. NC politics is truly one of a kind. ACC is also based in Charlotte. UVA might have some appeal to the Big 10 but they are also politically tied with VT (although to a lesser degree). USF, SDSU, and Tulane are the only G5's that have a shot.

Yeah b/c Arizona, Colorado, and Utah are not already in a bizarrely configured Big 12 where they'll be roundtripping to such lovely destinations like Lubbock TX, Manhattan KS, Morgantown WV, Cincinnati OH, and Orlando FL.

When you have 4-5 billionaires footing the bill you don't care about the ROI.

Rubin Jones (healthy)

word. missed that. then I hope it's Johnell Davis