'15 DL Demikal Harrison (Oklahoma)

According to Vito, someone has already committed, just waiting on announcement. Would have to guess it is Harrison or Cain.

Hopefully both!

Good late push.

This would be a good get. It would be a flip of a quality player with multiple offers. He's also a legit player that is a big position of need. We need this one. GMG

This draft class is turning into a really nice one IMO

Based on Vito's blog post, I would assume it is Harrison considering he states the player will spend 4 to 5 years at UNT.

Do we know if he was In town this weekend?

https://twitter.com/ball_polo/status/562091935783858176

Committed!

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That's great news!

https://twitter.com/DLineKP/status/562065538117955584?s=17

NICE PICKUP!!

Nice! Sorry I doubted our coaching staff and thought he was going to Tulsa. Hats off to KP. GmG

This is a good pick up and I think he is physically the real deal. A true gem.

I also think he's an immediate playing time type player. Big, big get.

Welcome aboard DeMikal!

I also think he's an immediate playing time type player. Big, big get.

If he does, great. But considering last year was his first full season of football, expectations for this kid should be tempered early on. But he may have the most potential of any DT we have. I'm thinking redshirt here and develop this kid into a monster down the line. Edited February 2, 2015 by BillySee58

Great get. Welcome to NT young Mr. Harrison. Between Harrison, TJ, Sid Moore and our preferred walk-on from Maryland, our young depth at DT is impressive. I think he will beed a year to develop, but he could be a good one.

GREAT get!

If he does, great. But considering last year was his first full season of football, expectations for this kid should be tempered early on. But he may have the most potential of any DT we have. I'm thinking redshirt here and develop this kid into a monster down the line.

So Billy based on your new rating system you were coming up with with Grades, how is this class looking?

Welcome aboard Demikal!

So Billy based on your new rating system you were coming up with with Grades, how is this class looking?

I did a little more tinkering with the scale and I added in a "C+" rating. So basically, a "C" recruit has no other FBS offers, so they may be a walkon, have no other offers, or only have FCS offers besides us. A "C+" recruit has 1 other FBS offer (small restraints, but the largest classification). A "B" recruit has between 3-5 FBS offers, a "B+" recruit has between 3-5 FBS offers but has good quality program offers. "A" is still at least 6 FBS offers and "A+" is still at least 10 D1 offers.

As for how this class is faring, we have:

2 "C" recruits

- Lipscomb and Dillman (as a tight end we were the only school to offer him)

7 "C+" recruits

- Bendy, Brooks, Munden, K. Smith, Robinson, Woodworth, and Chumley (us and ULM were the only schools to offer him as a QB)

5 "B" recruits

- Preston, Wegmann, Howard, Bradley, Harrison

0 "B+" recruits

1 "A" recruit

- Barr

Looking at it from an offer list standpoint, it's not a spectacular class. These are just the high school kids. How the JUCOs pan out will be a big determining factor in how this class gets looked at a few years down the line.

A few things worth noting. This class is lacking in the headliner category. Kevin Dillman had 17 or 18 offers (can't remember which one) to play quarterback by FBS schools, and Chumley had over 10 as a tight end. Both would be "A+" guys if we were bringing them in at those positions. I do like the we have less "C" guys than in the past. I think that number shouldn't be much more than 2. But, again, we're lacking in the "B+" or better department.

Great get. Welcome to NT young Mr. Harrison. Between Harrison, TJ, Sid Moore and our preferred walk-on from Maryland, our young depth at DT is impressive. I think he will beed a year to develop, but he could be a good one.

Don't count out Zero Wallace, he still needs to develop but he showed me some good things in games last year.

I did a little more tinkering with the scale and I added in a "C+" rating. So basically, a "C" recruit has no other FBS offers, so they may be a walkon, have no other offers, or only have FCS offers besides us. A "C+" recruit has 1 other FBS offer (small restraints, but the largest classification). A "B" recruit has between 3-5 FBS offers, a "B+" recruit has between 3-5 FBS offers but has good quality program offers. "A" is still at least 6 FBS offers and "A+" is still at least 10 D1 offers.

As for how this class is faring, we have:

2 "C" recruits

- Lipscomb and Dillman (as a tight end we were the only school to offer him)

7 "C+" recruits

- Bendy, Brooks, Munden, K. Smith, Robinson, Woodworth, and Chumley (us and ULM were the only schools to offer him as a QB)

5 "B" recruits

- Preston, Wegmann, Howard, Bradley, Harrison

0 "B+" recruits

1 "A" recruit

- Barr

Looking at it from an offer list standpoint, it's not a spectacular class. These are just the high school kids. How the JUCOs pan out will be a big determining factor in how this class gets looked at a few years down the line.

A few things worth noting. This class is lacking in the headliner category. Kevin Dillman had 17 or 18 offers (can't remember which one) to play quarterback by FBS schools, and Chumley had over 10 as a tight end. Both would be "A+" guys if we were bringing them in at those positions. I do like the we have less "C" guys than in the past. I think that number shouldn't be much more than 2. But, again, we're lacking in the "B+" or better department.

I think this approach is also going to have shortcomings when it has to guess whether a recruit received offers at one position or another unless you are speaking to the recruits directly. I get the intent, but don't agree that this system will necessarily show the quality of athlete being added to the program. This approach has no way of knowing if an offer was commitable or not or if all offers are listed, etc... All the approaches have their pluses and minuses.

This approach definitely looks at the problem of grading a class from a different angle though.

I think this approach is also going to have shortcomings when it has to guess whether a recruit received offers at one position or another unless you are speaking to the recruits directly. I get the intent, but don't agree that this system will necessarily show the quality of athlete being added to the program. This approach has no way of knowing if an offer was commitable or not or if all offers are listed, etc... All the approaches have their pluses and minuses.

This approach definitely looks at the problem of grading a class from a different angle though.

I think you're overcomplicating it. I'm just going off of how many schools have offered a kid at some point. There seems to be a misconception on "pulled offers". The only time the term "pulled offer" applies is when a staff tells a commit to look elsewhere or when a kid tries to commit and the staff doesn't accept him. Other than that, teams just stop recruiting kids. For example, there are a lot of players who we offered back in the spring and summer who we stopped contacting long ago, even if they didn't commit elsewhere. It's not like we call up all those kids and say "we pulled your offer". You just stop recruiting them. If a school has offered you at any point, that's verification that coaches believe you can be an FBS level player. Even if they stop recruiting you. And the more offers you get, the more verification. Ashton Preston was offered by June Jones' SMU staff, not the current one. Even if that offer was no longer good, it's still an evaluation by an FBS coach that he believes (or believed) that player was FBS caliber.

In this era, kids offer lists are generally well kept up with by all the numerous website analysts between the big 4 recruiting services. Between those sites, and the interview the kids do with Vito after they commit, we get a pretty good idea of who offered and recruited that kid. Also, between the kids' high school coaches and guys who cover recruiting as a job, there is validation on which schools did offer.

As for what position a kid is offered at, it's still not that complicated. If a kid is offered by one school as a receiver, while offered by another as a DB, there are very similar skill sets involved at each position. So counting them together isn't a big deal, and it's really not even worth noting. They're skill player offers. Offering a kid at tight end and QB is a huge difference. Those are completely different skill set requirements, so that is very much worth noting. Again, interviews with the kids and their coaches will do a good job of letting you know who was recruiting them at which positions.

You're right that it does have flaws, as anything will. But it takes out a lot of the subjectivity and opinions from people who are not FBS coaches. We signed a recruit in 2012 who Rivals rated as a 3-star, but didn't have any other offers. They rated Cyril Lemon as a 2-star, but he had offers from 7 FBS schools. One couldn't crack the two-deep, while the other was a 4-year starter. Offer lists and ratings usually match up pretty well, but when they don't, I'll take the offer lists anytime when predicting how likely a kid is going to be successful as an FBS player.