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[greenminer]

Am I high or did I read somewhere earlier that Trey was actually aiding Hardwick's recruitment?

Is both an acceptable answer?

[Dr. Seuss]

Spread Option...

Is this a Net Debit Spread or a Net Credit... calls or puts... Because im pretty bullish on Benford

I would do a butterfly option strategy... Its a lotto ticket, he doesnt cost that much but the return could be insane if he hits the magic number in the middle

Oh wait, are we talking about Coach K spread...lol

Edited by Dr. Seuss, 04 May 2012 - 05:15 PM.

[UNT90]

Am I high or did I read somewhere earlier that Trey was actually aiding Hardwick's recruitment?

Yes, I believe Vito said Norris was Hardwick's recruit visit host. That would be really strange.

I hope Trey, and not Forrest, is leaving, but that's just me.

[UNTLifer]

Is it "Wide Open? "

[Censored by Laurie]

Yes, I believe Vito said Norris was Hardwick's recruit visit host. That would be really strange.

I hope Trey, and not Forrest, is leaving, but that's just me.

It's a bit uncomfortable to think in those terms, but I agree...I think Trey maxes out as a 5pt, 5ast, 15-20 min a night guy...a wonderful luxury as your reserve point, but even if Forrest never realizes his full potential he's still got the whole 6'10" thing going for him.

Maybe Clarke (yes, I just assumed the white kid like all of you assumed Collin Mangrum was a good shooter) may be in on academic scholarship?

[Harry]

This will probably be a unpopular idea , but I say we ask Overlander to grey shirt or walk on for the 2012-13 season. If there is a chance we can add Harwick along w. Odoh & Coleman , you go for it. We are heading into a tougher conference and need to step up our talent. I think all 3 could be impact players in USA.

I just don't see where Overlander fits this year IF everyone is back and on board ( like I fully expect them to be). Clarke is a 2 , maybe a 3. With CJ back, Alzee can move back to the guard slot with Walton coming off the bench. I really don't see what Overlander could bring to the table that would push Walton for any PT. If we did add the very talented Harwick , we could have both him and CJ on the court at the sametime. Maybe move CJ over to the 2 at times.

At the 3 we have Patton and Jordan. Both very athletic , who can do just about everything. Again , I don't see Clarke pushing either of these 2 for playing time as a true frosh

Let's say we do this (add Odoh & Coleman) we could move Roger , Mitchell or even Niko to the 3 as well.

I'm not saying I'm against Overlander coming here , I just think the timing may be off. Next year would really be ideal. We will have a handful of ships and he could slide in and replace Walton.

In my opinion , a grey shirt or a walk on status ( just for this year) would help us more. Overlander seems to really love UNT and his parents could probably afford it , so it might work out.

Just a thought

Where do you see Hardwick fitting in this season and how soon could he help us?

[UNT90]

This will probably be a unpopular idea , but I say we ask Overlander to grey shirt or walk on for the 2012-13 season. If there is a chance we can add Harwick along w. Odoh & Coleman , you go for it. We are heading into a tougher conference and need to step up our talent. I think all 3 could be impact players in USA.

I just don't see where Overlander fits this year IF everyone is back and on board ( like I fully expect them to be). Clarke is a 2 , maybe a 3. With CJ back, Alzee can move back to the guard slot with Walton coming off the bench. I really don't see what Overlander could bring to the table that would push Walton for any PT. If we did add the very talented Harwick , we could have both him and CJ on the court at the sametime. Maybe move CJ over to the 2 at times.

At the 3 we have Patton and Jordan. Both very athletic , who can do just about everything. Again , I don't see Clarke pushing either of these 2 for playing time as a true frosh

Let's say we do this (add Odoh & Coleman) we could move Roger , Mitchell or even Niko to the 3 as well.

I'm not saying I'm against Overlander coming here , I just think the timing may be off. Next year would really be ideal. We will have a handful of ships and he could slide in and replace Walton.

In my opinion , a grey shirt or a walk on status ( just for this year) would help us more. Overlander seems to really love UNT and his parents could probably afford it , so it might work out.

Just a thought

I don't know. This team desperately needs someone besides Walton who can knock down the 3 semi-consistently. That would be Clarke's role next year (on the court when Walton isn't).

Either way, it sure is nice to have these types of problems.

[Green Crazy]

I don't know. This team desperately needs someone besides Walton who can knock down the 3 semi-consistently. That would be Clarke's role next year (on the court when Walton isn't).

Either way, it sure is nice to have these types of problems.

i think jones and jwill can do that, assuming they stay and pass.

[UNT90]

i think jones and jwill can do that, assuming they stay and pass.

Kinda dangerous assuming an ability they didnt display last year, don't ya think?

[Cooley]

Jones and Williams are scorers; not shooters. Walton is too inconsistent for me to be satisfied. If we are running up and down the court, Overlander will not help, as he is suited for a slower paced style. I think he is a better overall shooter than Walton. He just does not have the foot speed nor range of Walton. (Just an observation from 3 Argyle games, telecast and video)

On a very good CUSA team (which we will not be in 2012-2013) I don't like either one in my starting lineup. Walton, however, is probably needed more next year because of experience. Don't like Jones and Hartwick at all together on the floor; as they will need the ball in their hands. I hope we are not sleeping on Trey Norris as a reserve point guard. He will never be a star but has accepted his role as a reserve. Can Hardwick accept and/or be effective as a role guy? idk

[greenminer]

Kinda dangerous assuming an ability they didnt display last year, don't ya think?

You seem so pessimistic about the whole thing.

Every kid I knew that failed something their frosh year was able to recover. I guess you saw something different.

[NT03]

I don't know. This team desperately needs someone besides Walton who can knock down the 3 semi-consistently. That would be Clarke's


role next year (on the court when Walton isn't).

Either way, it sure is nice to have these types of problems.

Clarke is coming from a 3A school , I don't think we can count on him to just come in and knockdown shots from the get go vs much stellar competition. Big adjustments to be made. Let's not forget he played most of the season as post/forward. He will strictly be around the arc
shooting over people for the most part.

I'll agree with you in that if he does play , he does have a role on this team. With guards who drive & attention focused on TM , an outside shooter is a must.

I think Chris has a nice outside shot and can hit consistently. The one thing I didn't like about JJ's offense Is that our guards took too many illadvised , low percentage 3 point shots. Maybe this changes with the new coach

Alzee also gets a whole year to concentrate on his outside shot. We saw how much he improved physically in 1 offseason. I bet he can easily do the same knowing he doesn't have to worry about being point next year

And again, I'm not against the overlander signing. I just don't see any minutes for him this year

If I'm right , fully expect my very own thread about it !

Edited by NT03, 05 May 2012 - 07:22 AM.

[NT03]

Where do you see Hardwick fitting in this season and how soon could he help us?

Kinda hard to tell. I'm not sure what kind of style Benford has in mind. If this was JJ 's team , I'm sure we'd see them both on the court 30+ minutes a night much like when we has Josh & DoJo

Edited by NT03, 05 May 2012 - 07:04 AM.

[NT03]

Jones and Williams are scorers; not shooters. Walton is too inconsistent for me to be satisfied. If we are running up and down the court, Overlander will not help, as he is suited for a slower paced style. I think he is a better overall shooter than Walton. He just does not have the foot speed nor range of Walton. (Just an observation from 3 Argyle games, telecast and video)

On a very good CUSA team (which we will not be in 2012-2013) I don't like either one in my starting lineup. Walton, however, is probably needed more next year because of experience. Don't like Jones and Hartwick at all together on the floor; as they will need the ball in their hands. I hope we are not sleeping on Trey Norris as a reserve point guard. He will never be a star but has accepted his role as a reserve. Can Hardwick accept and/or be effective as a role guy? idk

He did play with Josh Gray , so I'm sure it can work out

[Cooley]

True, but hopefully for only a short period of time; at the college level. As you know, most high schools/prep schools play their 5 best guys together. (Got to keep the parents happy) These guys were recruited to Christian Life with promises to play right away and for 1 year. (Gray played at Houston Wheatley while Hardwick played at Dekaney after coming in from Florida. As we also know, high school/prep coaches are rarely fired as well. I'm ok with certain match up wrinkles/gimmicks in general. Chris Jones or Hardwick would certainly not be as effective standing around. (Just my thought NT03)

Great job btw, with the updates!