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[GreenN'walinsVet]

If the merger stays with 18 and lets give them Temple and Utah State , leaving the Sun Belt untouched.

Invite UTSA and Texas Sate for all sports and UTA for all sports minus football. This leaves the Belt with 12 football teams and 14 basketball teams.

West Division:
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Louisiana Lafayette
Monroe
Arkansas State
UTA * Non Football

East Division:
FIU
FAU
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee
Troy
South Alabama
Little Rock * Non Football

If the merger doesn't go to 24 and the money that would follow, this to me would be a dream scenario. Also with the WAC 100% done, it makes the Belt the clear #2 non AQ conference imo, and would also compete with the merger for #1.

Also, if you can kick Monroe out and add La Tech it would make it even better.

Keep the Basketball tournament in Hot Springs and play the football championship in Shreveport, Dallas, San Antonio, New Orleans, Nashville, and Miami on a rotating basis.

With that kind of change you renegotiate the TV contract to make the money much more appealing and your off and running with a regional conference with plenty of big markets and up and coming programs both on the field and with facilities.

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[UNTflyer]

Why dip down to I-AA???

LA Tech + New Mexico State = 12 teams

Done.

[emmitt01]

Why dip down to I-AA???

LA Tech + New Mexico State = 12 teams

Done.

Two reasons.
1)Getting UTSA gets us the San Antonio market for TV contract purposes. Does UTSA really command that market? Nope, but TV execs clearly don't care about an ability to actually draw viewers in your market (see SMU).
2)If the rebel alliance passes us up this go round this allows us to take UTSA off the table for them.

[GreenGuy123]

I'd rather not bring in more FCS schools, especially from Texas. Just more competition in terms of recruiting. But if we were going to bring one in...UTSA over Texas State any day of the week.

[smoothfresh]

Amen to this! I personally like the regional conference. Perfect for road trips and perfect for those schools fan to come to Apogee and spend money in our communities.

[emmitt01]

I'd rather not bring in more FCS schools, especially from Texas. Just more competition in terms of recruiting. But if we were going to bring one in...UTSA over Texas State any day of the week.

Let's not be like UT or SMU and do anything to avoid competition.

[wardly]

If the merger stays with 18 and lets give them Temple and Utah State , leaving the Sun Belt untouched.

Invite UTSA and Texas Sate for all sports and UTA for all sports minus football. This leaves the Belt with 12 football teams and 14 basketball teams.

West Division:
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Louisiana Lafayette
Monroe
Arkansas State
UTA * Non Football

East Division:
FIU
FAU
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee
Troy
South Alabama
Little Rock * Non Football

If the merger doesn't go to 24 and the money that would follow, this to me would be a dream scenario. Also with the WAC 100% done, it makes the Belt the clear #2 non AQ conference imo, and would also compete with the merger for #1.

Also, if you can kick Monroe out and add La Tech it would make it even better.

Keep the Basketball tournament in Hot Springs and play the football championship in Shreveport, Dallas, San Antonio, New Orleans, Nashville, and Miami on a rotating basis.

With that kind of change you renegotiate the TV contract to make the money much more appealing and your off and running with a regional conference with plenty of big markets and up and coming programs both on the field and with facilities.

i think Temple and FIU are targeted with UTEP moving west, giving them 2 football only and 16 all sports members.

[Eastwood Eagle]

Why dip down to I-AA???

LA Tech + New Mexico State = 12 teams

Done.

That is incredibly shortsighted.

Yes, UTSA and Texas State are in 1-AA, but after they transition these will be to great rivalries to have. With the addition of these two schools we could have a three way rivalry that would greatly benefit both schools/ fan bases.

If we get passed up, we need to ensure that we get in a conference with UTSA and Texas State.

[GreenBat]

UTSA is part of the WHORN network. Just a little info.

[Harry]

Two reasons.
1)Getting UTSA gets us the San Antonio market for TV contract purposes. Does UTSA really command that market? Nope, but TV execs clearly don't care about an ability to actually draw viewers in your market (see SMU).
2)If the rebel alliance passes us up this go round this allows us to take UTSA off the table for them.

I think there's one thing I learned from this process is it is not about whether you command the market, its how many actual TV sets are in the market. I've said this before but it's worth saying again...college football is one of the few gotta watch live advertising draws in this DVR fast forward past the commercial age we live in today.

[Green Otaku]

I would love someone like Old Dominion or VCU as a non-football member. Helps with the teams out west and adds a great team. Eventually ODU could move their football in.

[UNTflyer]

Yes, UTSA and Texas State are in 1-AA, but after they transition these will be to great rivalries to have.

Based on what? The 75 UTSA fans that traveled to Sam Houston State?

If we get passed up, we need to ensure that we get in a conference with UTSA and Texas State.

Oh dear God...

[GreenGuy123]

Let's not be like UT or SMU and do anything to avoid competition.

Haha yeah, you are right. I mean I'd love to actually have some rivals. We do have quite a bit of history with Texas State and I wouldn't mind a "Battle of the Birds" game with UTSA. Plus, those road trips would be great. I guess it would be a no lose situation to try and get them into the Sun Belt. If we get into the Alliance, great, if we get passed over, then bring on some Central/South Texas rivalries.

[GreenGuy123]

I would love someone like Old Dominion or VCU as a non-football member. Helps with the teams out west and adds a great team. Eventually ODU could move their football in.

I think ODU and VCU would be great non-football members. I wouldn't be opposed to adding Charlotte either, once they get their football in gear.

[Daddy Dumpsalot]

If the merger stays with 18 and lets give them Temple and Utah State , leaving the Sun Belt untouched.

Invite UTSA and Texas Sate for all sports and UTA for all sports minus football. This leaves the Belt with 12 football teams and 14 basketball teams.

West Division:
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Louisiana Lafayette
Monroe
Arkansas State
UTA * Non Football

East Division:
FIU
FAU
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee
Troy
South Alabama
Little Rock * Non Football

If the merger doesn't go to 24 and the money that would follow, this to me would be a dream scenario. Also with the WAC 100% done, it makes the Belt the clear #2 non AQ conference imo, and would also compete with the merger for #1.

Also, if you can kick Monroe out and add La Tech it would make it even better.

Keep the Basketball tournament in Hot Springs and play the football championship in Shreveport, Dallas, San Antonio, New Orleans, Nashville, and Miami on a rotating basis.

With that kind of change you renegotiate the TV contract to make the money much more appealing and your off and running with a regional conference with plenty of big markets and up and coming programs both on the field and with facilities.

This is a joke. We really are that desperate aren't we? Have we been so stagnate over the past 60 years that we are hoping to get into a conference with a school that started their football program 2 years ago? Here I am thinking that maybe we can move up and play some schools with some name recognition so we can attract a larger, more dedicated fan base....but nope we're hoping to get into a conference with two FCS schools 30 miles apart. Adding these two schools should be viewed as a step backwards and we can continue to expect 12k average attendance. I guess it's too much to ask (demand) that we aim a little higher?

Edited by Daddy Dumpsalot, 14 February 2012 - 08:48 PM.