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[UNTLifer]

Sounds like in game coaching was an issue. Some things never change.

[NT03]

We got outcoached , pretty simple. We had far superior talent on the floor tonight , no question. UALR played almost the entire game w/ 2 freshman on the court at all times so don't give me the young team excuse. In fact , the Trojans played mostly 2 frosh & 2 soph over the last 5 minutes. We didn't go inside when the only person down low was Courtney Jackson. Jackson is a 3 playing out of position who is coming off a season ending knee injury from a year ago. The 2 tall white kids are tall , but not what I would call post defenders. The few times we did go down low we had success. Marlon Louzeiro is really the inside force and he only played a few minutes ( which really surprised me seeing how well he played in last year's tourny) . I was really impressed w/ Michael Javes. Get to know that name , he will be a all conference at least twice in his career.


Why do we seem to only look for the OUTSIDE shot ? It's really bothersome. It works when you have guys like White,TT & D Mo , but it's not going to work with this group. Alot of standing around and confusion it seems. Hopefully that goes away the more this team plays

Why do we not play with any urgency until the last few minutes of every game ?? We go to a press , gain the lead and then call it off ? It's like going to a prevent D in football. I think they scored every time down the floor after we stopped pressing. We have enough talent to run anyone out on the floor. We should start pressing the entire game. Seriously. It would help our 3 point D ( because every team seems to get a basket from beyond the arc when they want one ) It would keep T Mitch out of foul trouble and it would wear down the other team. There is not 1 team in the Belt that can match our talent 1 to 10 . 1 to 5 , yes , but 1 to 10 I don't think so.

I'm done venting , thanks for listening

Edited by NT03, 29 December 2011 - 10:25 PM.

[Maduro]

mgfan, on 29 December 2011 - 09:37 PM, said:

It is just me or does tony go for the big play every time? (dunk, block, steal) It seems to get him into foul trouble. Someone needs to sit him down and tell him sometimes its better to let them get the basket then come in hard and foul.

i believe the foul trouble is because he is not a center and mentally collapses when trying to guard one at the college level. he will play the 3 at the next level and he needs to be playing it at this one now. his dribbling skills are light years beyond J.W.'s and I would love to see him get a few more touches on offense. This would give us a threat similar to Tristan with someone that isnt afraid to take it to the basket and get the other team in foul trouble.

This could easily be done while giving J.W. the same amount of minutes since he could sub either Tony or Alzee. The only playing time change I can foresee with this type of adjustment is less Walton and more Zo. Of course, if Ked is going to miss time none of this matters.

[Roadruner]

NT03, on 29 December 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

We got outcoached , pretty simple. We had far superior talent on the floor tonight , no question. UALR played almost the entire game w/ 2 freshman on the court at all times so don't give me the young team excuse. In fact , the Trojans played mostly 2 frosh & 2 soph over the last 5 minutes. We didn't go inside when the only person down low was Courtney Jackson. Jackson is a 3 playing out of position who is coming off a season ending knee injury from a year ago. The 2 tall white kids are tall , but not what I would call post defenders. The few times we did go down low we had success. Marlon Louzeiro is really the inside force and he only played a few minutes ( which really surprised me seeing how well he played in last year's tourny) . I was really impressed w/ Michael Javes. Get to know that name , he will be a all conference at least twice in his career.


Why do we seem to only look for the OUTSIDE shot ? It's really bothersome. It works when you have guys like White,TT & D Mo , but it's not going to work with this group. Alot of standing around and confusion it seems. Hopefully that goes away the more this team plays

Why do we not play with any urgency until the last few minutes of every game ?? We go to a press , gain the lead and then call it off ? It's like going to a prevent D in football. I think they scored every time down the floor after we stopped pressing. We have enough talent to run anyone out on the floor. We should start pressing the entire game. Seriously. It would help our 3 point D ( because every team seems to get a basket from beyond the arc when they want one ) It would keep T Mitch out of foul trouble and it would wear down the other team. There is not 1 team in the Belt that can match our talent 1 to 10 . 1 to 5 , yes , but 1 to 10 I don't think so.

I'm done venting , thanks for listening

Thank you very much - you are right on - Out Coached and Out Played

[Skiver]

NT03, on 29 December 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

We got outcoached , pretty simple. We had far superior talent on the floor tonight , no question. UALR played almost the entire game w/ 2 freshman on the court at all times so don't give me the young team excuse. In fact , the Trojans played mostly 2 frosh & 2 soph over the last 5 minutes. We didn't go inside when the only person down low was Courtney Jackson. Jackson is a 3 playing out of position who is coming off a season ending knee injury from a year ago. The 2 tall white kids are tall , but not what I would call post defenders. The few times we did go down low we had success. Marlon Louzeiro is really the inside force and he only played a few minutes ( which really surprised me seeing how well he played in last year's tourny) . I was really impressed w/ Michael Javes. Get to know that name , he will be a all conference at least twice in his career.


Why do we seem to only look for the OUTSIDE shot ? It's really bothersome. It works when you have guys like White,TT & D Mo , but it's not going to work with this group. Alot of standing around and confusion it seems. Hopefully that goes away the more this team plays

Why do we not play with any urgency until the last few minutes of every game ?? We go to a press , gain the lead and then call it off ? It's like going to a prevent D in football. I think they scored every time down the floor after we stopped pressing. We have enough talent to run anyone out on the floor. We should start pressing the entire game. Seriously. It would help our 3 point D ( because every team seems to get a basket from beyond the arc when they want one ) It would keep T Mitch out of foul trouble and it would wear down the other team. There is not 1 team in the Belt that can match our talent 1 to 10 . 1 to 5 , yes , but 1 to 10 I don't think so.

I'm done venting , thanks for listening

THIS! We clog the lane and shut our selves out. EVen with a guy like Niko or Mitchel goes up to the elbow the other post player is still clogging the damn lane. We need to set screens on and off the ball and move more. Clear some space so a guy like J.W. can try to take it in without running into Franklin or Hogans.

[UNT90]

I really wish JJ would Taylor the offense to the talent he has rather than trying to shove square pegs into round holes.

This offense has no rhythm. It's like a white kid from Allen at his first middle school dance.

[TheTastyGreek]

CMJ, on 29 December 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

I could be wrong, but I believe our FT percentage was around 75% coming into this game, which would be pretty decent nationally.

.727

Tied for 63rd in the country. Top 18% nationally.

[Roadruner]

TheTastyGreek, on 29 December 2011 - 10:41 PM, said:

.727

Tied for 63rd in the country. Top 18% nationally.

UNT - 19 Points in the first half – 47% from the foul line

ULAR – 50% from 3-point line/9 of 18 – 72% from foul line

Just got out played by 3 & 10 Team

Happy New Year

[TheTastyGreek]

Gibbz, on 29 December 2011 - 09:09 PM, said:

What a nightmare. How this team could lose at home to a squad that untalented is beyond me.

Anyone who thinks UALR is untalented is smoking crack or completely unaware of who they have on their team.

This loss sucks, and we should have taken this game. But calling UALR untalented is stupid.

[Harry]

NT03, on 29 December 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

We got outcoached , pretty simple. We had far superior talent on the floor tonight , no question. UALR played almost the entire game w/ 2 freshman on the court at all times so don't give me the young team excuse. In fact , the Trojans played mostly 2 frosh & 2 soph over the last 5 minutes. We didn't go inside when the only person down low was Courtney Jackson. Jackson is a 3 playing out of position who is coming off a season ending knee injury from a year ago. The 2 tall white kids are tall , but not what I would call post defenders. The few times we did go down low we had success. Marlon Louzeiro is really the inside force and he only played a few minutes ( which really surprised me seeing how well he played in last year's tourny) . I was really impressed w/ Michael Javes. Get to know that name , he will be a all conference at least twice in his career.


Why do we seem to only look for the OUTSIDE shot ? It's really bothersome. It works when you have guys like White,TT & D Mo , but it's not going to work with this group. Alot of standing around and confusion it seems. Hopefully that goes away the more this team plays

Why do we not play with any urgency until the last few minutes of every game ?? We go to a press , gain the lead and then call it off ? It's like going to a prevent D in football. I think they scored every time down the floor after we stopped pressing. We have enough talent to run anyone out on the floor. We should start pressing the entire game. Seriously. It would help our 3 point D ( because every team seems to get a basket from beyond the arc when they want one ) It would keep T Mitch out of foul trouble and it would wear down the other team. There is not 1 team in the Belt that can match our talent 1 to 10 . 1 to 5 , yes , but 1 to 10 I don't think so.

I'm done venting , thanks for listening

Sounds pretty dead on to me! Thanks for typing it!

[TheTastyGreek]

Roadruner, on 29 December 2011 - 10:44 PM, said:

UNT - 19 Points in the first half – 47% from the foul line

ULAR – 50% from 3-point line/9 of 18 – 72% from foul line

Just got out played by 3 & 10 Team

Happy New Year

UNT came into the game in the top fifth nationally shooting free throws. We had a bad game shooting free throws. We are not a bad free throw shooting team.

UALR came in to the game ranked 307th in the nation in 3 point percentage. They had a good game shooting 3 pointers. They are not a good 3 point shooting team.

This sucks. Terribly. TERRIBLY. No need to make it worse than it actually is, though. This game doesn't need any help or exaggeration to make it a painful disaster.

Happy New Year to you, too.

[GrandGreen]

Maduro, on 29 December 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

i believe the foul trouble is because he is not a center and mentally collapses when trying to guard one at the college level. he will play the 3 at the next level and he needs to be playing it at this one now. his dribbling skills are light years beyond J.W.'s and I would love to see him get a few more touches on offense. This would give us a threat similar to Tristan with someone that isnt afraid to take it to the basket and get the other team in foul trouble.

This could easily be done while giving J.W. the same amount of minutes since he could sub either Tony or Alzee. The only playing time change I can foresee with this type of adjustment is less Walton and more Zo. Of course, if Ked is going to miss time none of this matters.

A 3 would eat Mitchell alive right now, he couldn't guard a 6'10 Englishman playing on the outside.

[Maduro]

GrandGreen, on 30 December 2011 - 12:07 AM, said:

A 3 would eat Mitchell alive right now, he couldn't guard a 6'10 Englishman playing on the outside.

Only 1 of his fouls tonight came on the perimeter and that was because "Floppy the Englishman" earned himself an oscar. The mid-court steal attempt was about as ticky-tack as it gets. Every center he has matched up with has torched him with elementary head fakes with their backs to him. I say move him and at least TRY... there is no way it would be a worse result then what happened tonight with our perimeter D.

I'm not going to disagree with the media and nba scouts about his footwork and dribbling until I get to see him in a position he is comfortable with. We are squandering our time with Tony using him as a Center. After 5 games, the highest rated recruit in our school's athletic program history is being statistically hustled by Odufuwa at the same position.

Personally, I believe J.W. possibly had his best game tonight with some great defense and no turnovers (that i can remember, correct me if I'm wrong). I'm totally fine with his minutes but I think they should be disbursed with him as a reserve. The missed shots and lack of penetration from him have hurt every game. I don't think I can blame the system for that since Tristan never seemed to have an issue with Kedrick and Odufuwa filling up the lane.

I hate debating this side of a hypothetical situation since I know good and well I will never see Tony at the 3... I just believe we are not taking advantage of something special.

Edited by Maduro, 30 December 2011 - 01:31 AM.

[DJstars21]

Maduro, on 30 December 2011 - 01:29 AM, said:

Only 1 of his fouls tonight came on the perimeter and that was because "Floppy the Englishman" earned himself an oscar. The mid-court steal attempt was about as ticky-tack as it gets. Every center he has matched up with has torched him with elementary head fakes with their backs to him. I say move him and at least TRY... there is no way it would be a worse result then what happened tonight with our perimeter D.

I'm not going to disagree with the media and nba scouts about his footwork and dribbling until I get to see him in a position he is comfortable with. We are squandering our time with Tony using him as a Center. After 5 games, the highest rated recruit in our school's athletic program history is being statistically hustled by Odufuwa at the same position.

Personally, I believe J.W. possibly had his best game tonight with some great defense and no turnovers (that i can remember, correct me if I'm wrong). I'm totally fine with his minutes but I think they should be disbursed with him as a reserve. The missed shots and lack of penetration from him have hurt every game. I don't think I can blame the system for that since Tristan never seemed to have an issue with Kedrick and Odufuwa filling up the lane.

I hate debating this side of a hypothetical situation since I know good and well I will never see Tony at the 3... I just believe we are not taking advantage of something special.

I agree.

Truth is he's playing out of position because we are thin at that position. He's 6'8 2(something), put him on the perimeter (on offense) and give him space to find his grove, isolate him in the post. This guy has Kobe's stature, with Lebron's aggression. He should be playing with his talents, not against them. The other less talented players should be the ones having to adjust. This team should have a Chris Paul/Blake Griffin type dynamic with Mitch and CJ.

It's frustrating seeing his talent not being utilized. You use a hammer for nails, not a screwdriver.

Additionally, people bashing the coaching clearly have never played competitive basketball. The team is losing because they are unable to make shots. They are in position to make shots, they're just not making them. That falls on the players shoulders and their extra time in the gym, not the coach. This is college, not high school. They should already be players, coach can only put them in a position to apply their talents. We sink that shot in the fourth and that's a W. A win is a win, no matter the margin. String 20 close wins together and voila, great season.

Edited by DJstars21, 30 December 2011 - 04:11 PM.

[Army of Dad]

DJstars21, on 30 December 2011 - 03:09 AM, said:

String 20 close wins together and vuala, great season.

I almost never do this, but that word is a pet peeve of mine and I can't help it.
Voila is the spelling you are looking for. To be fair, your attempt was closer than a DRC writer one time 'bwallah'.

The points in your post are pretty good though.

Edited by Army of Dad, 30 December 2011 - 07:29 AM.